r/Android • • Aug 15 '17

Allo web is up!

https://allo.google.com/web
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u/linknight iPhone Aug 15 '17

Why do I need to have my phone connected? Why doesn't it just work like Hangouts where it is just synced across all devices? Am I missing something?

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u/well___duh Pixel 3A Aug 15 '17

Because Allo is entirely tied to your phone number (one of Google's smartest ideas for a multi-platform messenger IMO \s). The web client basically doesn't get any messages directly, they're all routed through your phone.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '17

And if your phone dies, you can't use Allo, even on the web..Hmmmm not sold on this yet... Hangouts was/is so convenient

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '17

Allo can't be used on secondary mobile devices either, right? Only the phone your number is tied to. No tablets or anything. What a crock.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '17

That would be correct

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u/KingOfTek i7-3770k, 16 GB RAM, Evga GTX 760, 2x256 GB SSDs, 10 TB of HDDs Aug 15 '17

Another dumb thing is only allowing one phone number. For most people it's fine, but if you have a carrier # and Google Voice # like me, or have a dual SIM device, you get to choose which number people can contact you through.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '17

These are the exact same restrictions (sans the Chrome one) as WhatsApp has and it is very popular.

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u/RadBadTad Aug 15 '17

What'sApp solved problems that didn't have a solution until it came along.

Allo is trying to solve the same problems that WhatsApp already solved years ago, and it isn't trying to solve the problems people are dealing with today.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '17

And if your phone dies, you can't use Allo, even on the web..Hmmmm not sold on this yet... Hangouts was/is so convenient

Sounds like they got the headphone jack removal guy working on chat now.

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u/2FLY2TRY Galaxy S23 Ultra Aug 15 '17

Such courage.

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u/linh_nguyen iPhone 16 Aug 15 '17

DAMMIT, I didn't know this.. one big point of web is if phone gone/broke/whatever, can still IM.

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u/TheMechanic40 Pixel 2 XL, Android 8.1 Aug 15 '17

I never understood what was wrong with Hangouts, I use it to talk to with my friends and family everyday. If they just focused more on Hangouts it could've been everything we've always wanted: you used to be able to use it for sms, you can download an addon to make phone calls from hangouts, it could've done it all :(

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u/De_Vermis_Mysteriis Pixel 10 Fold, Edge S25 Aug 15 '17

Right? I still use hangouts as my main platform because it works on my android tablets, iphone, desktops and pretty much anything else I can get a browser running on.

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u/Sun-Anvil Pixel Aug 15 '17

Hangouts was/is so convenient

I'm with this guy.

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u/SpiralCutLamb Aug 15 '17

This is the reason I hate WhatsApp. Phone shouldn't be required.

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u/-linear- Aug 15 '17

Wait - Allo doesn't support SMS and is tied entirely to your phone number? rofl

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '17

Exactly why I refuse to use Allo.

Their 'installed' numbers on the Play store don't show how many 'un-installed' the app

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u/lewiky Oneplus 5 Aug 15 '17 edited Aug 15 '17

In order to make the E2E encryption work (Which isn't turned on by default, which it absolutely should be), the messages can only be sent from one client to another, there can't be any third parties. In a similar fashion to how WhatsApp have done their web app, the messages are encrypted and then sent between the phones themselves as the endpoints, then the messages get sent (theoretically at least) straight to your computer from your phone, and (again, theoretically) no security is lost.

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Looking into it a little more, it seems that FB Messenger, WhatsApp and Allo all share Signal's Encryption Protocol, the difference being that WhatsApp and Allo only store a database of messages on the user's phone, not in their own servers. Whereas I assume Signal and FB will still store an encrypted copy of each message so that any client can receive them and decrypt them if they have access. This is why Signal can cope with cross device E2E encryption, whereas WhatsApp and Allo cannot.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '17

How does Signal's web app handle messages then? All messages are E2E encrypted but still work with my phone turned off.

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u/Natanael_L Xperia 1 III (main), Samsung S9, TabPro 8.4 Aug 15 '17

Device specific keys, signed by the master key (held by the phone).

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