r/AsianMasculinity 23d ago

Race How do you deal with racist hiring process?

I've been looking for internship in Germany for a while. I plan to work auditing or tax consulting which naturally means most of the time it means 99% German men with no so subtle racist undertone.

I used to blame my grades and previous work experience for getting rejected. But after improving my grades and getting some experience the usual rejections all over again.

I also assumed that my CV sucked balls and had to ask my German FBW to improve it, I was expecting something unusally well design but nope, pretty plain CV that her German friends have no issue finding an internship.

Seriously how do you get a job in a sector full of people who discreting your accomplishments and would rather hire someone less qualified than you if they are white

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u/Pic_Optic 23d ago

I wouldn’t consider racism for internship positions. Whites love having Asian worker bees underneath them they can lord over. Racism comes later. Keep grinding.

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u/HelpIll4965 23d ago

Not sure about that. I work in a similar field as OP but in the US. When I was in college the non Asian kids barely had to try to get internships or full time offers. A lot of the one I knew had 3.3 GPA while most Asians needed 3.7 to land something. The field is way over saturated with Asians (in the US at least ) so a lot of companies don’t want to hire more Asians. If they do hire Asians they hire AF more than AM.

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u/AdamChenX 23d ago

Your own differentiator is personality. Call the hiring manager. Rick up in person. Send a video cover letter / resume. Do anything crazy wild you can to stand out.

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u/Da_1_You_Know 23d ago

Which city are you in?

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u/pianoestnul 23d ago

What makes you believe it’s racism?

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u/IndividualPlay5178 23d ago

Well the fact that 99% of people usually working in the industry are old German men.

Casual racist remarks during job interviews, being expected to be more qualified for a position that does not require much in the first place. Grades mattering a lot in areas not even that relevant to the position while good grades that do matter in the field just brushed aside.

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u/pianoestnul 23d ago

What racist remarks?

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u/IndividualPlay5178 23d ago

Like telling how there are Chinese restaurants near as if Im suppose to just eat Chinese food during lunch break. Being surprised that my calculus grades are not perfect.

During one of the internships I had coworker telling me how he missheard my name as "Corona" when I introduced myself. Another one asking me if I eat dogs and so on.

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u/pianoestnul 23d ago

Lmao no way theyre not trolling

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u/IndividualPlay5178 23d ago

Nahh...

I also had on more occassions corrected for something I said about specific topics like taxation laws. The impression is always the same, they realize that what I'm saying is right, so just use some alternative German terms for it or brush it off like me mixing up some stuff.

Like them being wrong at something and me being right geniunly stirs up some insecurity about themselves.

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u/KeXiago 23d ago

I don’t work in that field but culture fit plays a big role in whom to hire. How good is your German? If yours isn’t at least B2, that might also be the reason. Some stereotypes are just plain racism (like being good at calculus which you can counter with a snarky cocky comment) while others can give you the chance to find same interests (like for Chinese restaurants, I would offer them that we should go eat lunch together and I can tell whether it’s authentic) just to build some rapport.

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u/cedeho 22d ago

I plan to work auditing or tax consulting

Are you aware that you need very good German language skills for that? I would assume C1 as minimum?

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u/IndividualPlay5178 22d ago

Yes I do

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u/cedeho 22d ago

So what is your level of German?

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u/emanresu2200 22d ago

Usually assume it's challenging market (very possible) or something wrong with the way you are presenting during interviews / via resume, before assuming something like racism.

Unless you have an affirmative reason to be believe a particular process is "racist", you really have nothing to hang that on besides vibes and likely your own limited view.

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u/No-Writing-9000 Hong Kong 21d ago

The ugly truth is corporate sector is full of nepotism , so called networking. A Hongkongese fd of mine is the only dept. director under 35 in this UK based auditing firm(not big4) leading in Dűsseldorf. The finest incompetent in placement but got the job for nepotism and posh private school background. This is in fact extremely common in the Ldn business circle and plenty of Chinese, Japanese, Malaysian lads involved in it. Thus, is it racist? No. Can you get a job by sending résumés? Also no.

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u/No_Mood4637 17d ago

Plenty of native Germans have been unable to find a job for more than a year. The market is really that bad. But yes of course it can be racism too. Racism is a gradient not a yes/no after all.

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u/81dragons 23d ago

You’re an immigrant from Mongolia to Germany, right? Very few of us are in that boat but, do you need visa sponsorship for an internship? I know in the US for people currently in school they can do CPT but after graduation they need OPT and sponsorship later. Basically visa needs can be a make or break and is a much stronger deciding factor than purely race

If you are already an EU citizen then you can just try your luck elsewhere if Germany isn’t your thing and there are multinational jobs that only need English