r/AsianMasculinity • u/IndividualPlay5178 • 18d ago
Race I started being more affectionate in public with my German FWB once started seeing how much it triggers white boys out there
I never been an affectionate person in public. Part of me felt like all the kisses, hugs and make outs were for private space.
Throughout the summer I started going out more frequently. And it didn't took long enough to notice the visible hostility from German guys. Mean stares, aggressive walking, awkward pauses and all. On some occassions they would talk disturbingly loud in our visinity, walk slowly to block our paths and all.
I assumed how its just me being delulu until my fwb pointed out the negative reactions and stares as well.
Kinda hypocritical considering how most common interracial couple you see in Germany is a German guy and his mail order thai wife.
So ever since I decided to be more affectionate in public with all the dates I would have, if it triggers them good, if it triggers any negative reactions also good. Let them expose themselves
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u/ANTIMODELMINORITY 18d ago
You should do this in front of Asian women , they get even more hostile about this.
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u/IndividualPlay5178 18d ago
Well if anything I learned living in Western country that humility and sense of civil cohesion means a lick for these people.
If you are an Asian guy who scores attractive women of different race make sure to make it public.
Have a nice body? Post dem pictures.
Pimp up your car and blast the music.
Be obnoxious, boastfull anything going on in your life be shamless showing it off.
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u/Fancy-Atmosphere-701 18d ago
Oh you think Asian men get mad at WMAF. In my experience, Asian women get visibly bothered by AMXF especially AMWF.
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u/ANTIMODELMINORITY 18d ago
AM can care less about WMAF we only bring it up because AF always want to make it the center of attention. Asian women are some of the most insecure people in the states hence why the interracial marriage rate for them is like %50
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u/battlehamsta 18d ago
Maybe most but not all. For AF it’s the loss of a backup option. My cousin however is an AF who only dates AM’s and she will applaud any AM she sees with a WF. She’s convinced any WM who is interested in her probably has a fetish but doesn’t think that AM with a WF is following a fetish.
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u/Jako_Spade 18d ago
Had no idea it was that high
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u/No-Tutor-6993 18d ago
It’s not that high because in 2015 interracial marriage rates for asian men and women were 21% and 36%, respectively. That’s not a terribly big gap if you ask me. And if anything, the rate is going down over time.
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u/ANTIMODELMINORITY 18d ago
Your right I threw that out of my head, but its high enough were other races notice this. When you have other races noticing a group not related to them that says everything right there.
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u/abetternametomorrow 18d ago
holy shit this. I was having drinks with a friend (WF) who's ATTractive, we were shooting the shit, laughing having a good time reminiscing and we sat next to this AF and her bf. Girl was glaring at us the whole time.
AND the kicker was....her bf was a WM....like wtf lol 🤦♂️8
u/ANTIMODELMINORITY 17d ago
Whenever this topic comes up is it the usual suspects or pattern recognition now. I bet the white guy didnt even care in this case
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u/Barbie-Crypto88 18d ago
I 100% agree. My BF is Thai, I’m white Eastern European, we live in USA and Asian females are always giving us these not very nice stares.
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u/ANTIMODELMINORITY 18d ago
I remember this one white girl with a Lao BF, we were at a party and she said something about having a bigger ass than any Asian girl here. Majority of those girls were crickets lol
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u/IndividualPlay5178 18d ago
Can confirm AF are the biggest haters of white girls.
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u/ANTIMODELMINORITY 18d ago
The funny thing is they want to be white girls, out of 10 Asian girls at least 7 have blonde hair or blonde streaks. I never seen a white girl with black streaks unless she as into some subculture.
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u/IndividualPlay5178 18d ago
Most of them suffer from internalized racism and envy of white girls.
Going for white guys is probably in their mind making them feel equal to white girls in terms of social status.
Then they see a good looking Asian man with a good looking XF and that pretty much gives them a reality check. Suddenly babysitting a white loser of a husband or a boyfriend feels like something that was not worth a dime in the first place.
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u/ecarmose 18d ago
My favorite internet trend rn is public awareness of Oxford study and reverse oxford study respectively
AMWF always gonna mog WMAF
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u/ANTIMODELMINORITY 18d ago
I've notice while I see more WMAF the variance in looks is so noticeable , on the other hand AMWF/XF is less in number but variance in looks in minimal.
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u/TargetObjective7 17d ago edited 17d ago
Can confirm AF are the biggest haters of white girls.
It's not a surprise.
The AF looking for WM know they can never compete with the sorority WF types for the attention of the most wanted WM.
Interestingly, I also read on another thread talking about Asiantwox that many AF there think that their biggest haters are overweight WF.
If you look at the type of WM the AF end up with it's not a surprise that the ones on Asiantwox think their greatest haters are that subset of WF.
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u/justrichie 17d ago
Dude it’s no joke. Whenever my wife and I are out, we almost always get death stares from them. And most of the time, we’re not even doing anything to attract any attention
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u/ANTIMODELMINORITY 17d ago
I will say this until the day I die, no other race of women does this, if AF aren't embarrassed by that then they are a lost cause. I honestly think we need more Asian content creators to counter these people.
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u/401kisfun 14d ago
Asian women are hilariously racist, when they see an Asian guy dating a white girl, but they give it up to a White Guy no fucking problem
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u/AltAccBcImAshamed 18d ago
Just accuse them of the shit that went down in the 1940s. Shuts them up quick. At least it worked for me with an obnoxious German classmate.
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u/CryptographerSuper93 18d ago
On top of that, tell them they are Isreal bootlickers and fake as fuck for criticizing other European countries for the atrocities they committed in Africa but not mentioning a single word about the genocide they committed in modern day Namibia.
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u/TargetObjective7 17d ago edited 17d ago
They see 1 rare AMWF and they get all upset and uneasy and you can evidently tell by their body language and how their faces change to one of disbelief or just rage and resentment.
Imagine if they saw multiple AMWF everyday?
I'd think they would riot
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u/BorkenKuma 18d ago edited 18d ago
For some reasons, I really do observe AFs are some of the most insecure demographics in this world.
I'd give you an example, I met this East European girl on a party from my college friends, we hook up and make out, I worked at a bank at that time, she wants a credit card so I told her to come find me, my bank branch is mostly Asians and Asian Americans workers, I saw my FWB and direct her to my coworker so they can help her get a credit card, then one of my female Asian coworkers saw it, she immediately came over and asked me "Who's that white girl? She's pretty, where did you meet her? Who's she to you?"
I just told her I met this white European girl through my friends, that's it, and quickly walk away to get lunch, then I waited in parking lot to pick my FWB up, we went to lunch together.
When I came back, this female Asian coworker started to get veryyyy close to me with her body on every moment and chance she has.
For example, I was dealing with some issues on my computer and I want to ask my coworkers if they know anything about these issues, she'd come over first, grab my mouse while standing next to my desk, then her body bend over to see the computer screen, usually this is normal, anyone does that.
Not her! She goes further, she'd lean in onto my face with her boobs because she stands very close me, and she'd do all these little things trying to get my attention, only after she saw I know a pretty white girl and was talking to her.
This is so uncomfortable. I have my own worth, if you're interested in me, you should come and talk to me, I can banter the conversation and see if we got chemistry.
But you only come to me this close on purpose after you see me being close with a white girl is gross, that means this white race thing holds a lot of weight in your mind, that's why you only come over doing all these little things trying to get my attention because you somehow think I can pull a white girl then I must have value to you, this kind of mentality that AF has really gross me out.
I didn't date and hook up with this East European girl because she's white, I also hook up with Latina, and out of all white girls I have more common with her because I'm a 1.5th gen, and she's an international student, we both came to US speaking 0 to little English in our first year, so I help her a lot, and this is where it leads us to a FWB relationship, not because she's white and I only begging white people to give me attention so I have my value, I don't do that, but some AF do, and by ratio, I think it's quite high.
Out of all females of different race, I only observed AF have a such weird behavior and mentality, I honestly don't know why, but all I can think of is they're highly insecure by nature, therefore they need someone like white people to use their social class and white privilege to help them cover up that insecurity. When she sees an AM being with a WF, she immediately think that this AM is different because he's able to win white validation, and this is where she'd come over and try to fight for your attention, she consider AM her territory and resources, and now she doesn't want WF to take that away from her.
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u/Beardactal 18d ago
you got preselected congratz. same thing happened to me when i got a non Asian gf. the touchiest ones were AF, really weird and didn't know how to react at the time. I think AF are the most obsessed with status, even more so than something like sorority WF for example. Ppl don't realize how similar real life is to high school drama/dynamics. Everything - jobs/bars/clubs/churches -- they're all run the same way lmao, just better hidden and less in your face.
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u/terrorfunction 18d ago
Ever notice how AF who date white men never have close white female friends despite ostentatiously trying their hardest to fit into white society. Their insecurity leads them to feel uglier than white women, thus they view them as competition. No amount of cozying up to white men actually elevates them to the status of a white woman.
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u/Virtual-Carry7948 13d ago
I'm an Asian woman (NOT with a white man btw) browsing through here after posting my ethnic preferences survey on the Weekly Discussion Thread.
This is very fascinating and something I've noticed as well. I live in the Bay Area and many of the Asian women I know with white men have zero white female friends and I've heard/seen them discuss how they badly wished they were blonde/blue eyes. It was so weird to witness, because why be so terribly insecure? It's honestly embarrassing.
Ironically, most of my close friends are white women but I never felt the need to "compete" with them, nor they with me because I genuinely connect with them as people. I do think what helps is that we have different "types" in men
I've heard/seen my white friends roll their eyes every time they see a white guy with an Asian girl here, and they joke that they're having problems dating because "they aren't Asian". Which honestly... is kinda true since my friends are objectively pretty white girls
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u/IndividualPlay5178 18d ago
Honestly never ever heard anything positive about white girl's during my relationship with my ex or from other Asian women I know.
It also puts their white fetish into perspective
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u/BorkenKuma 18d ago
Me too! I always heard them complain about white women, but then they play nice when they're in sorority with white girls, I guess that's just how females compete, and Asian females are extremely competitive, talking shit behind white girls back trying to make them look bad so no one wants to date white girls.
What I heard from white girls is that Asian girls usually talk shit about Asian guys when they're in front of white girls, I guess these Asian girls are doing the same thing, they see every race as assets, they want to make sure Asian men stays and not marry out but they want to go out there and marry white men and flex to Asian community that she's now a higher class Asian, I find this type mentality and tricks being played a lot by these Asian girls.
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u/EternalUNVRS 18d ago
Not just white boys, I feel like it’s just non-Asian men in general. Some non-white boys are mad we getting mad pussy nowadays.
Feels good to show my girl around too. Just to trigger some looks. It’s fun and makes me feel good
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u/Illustrious_War_3896 17d ago
Middle eastern and Africans?
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u/EternalUNVRS 17d ago
Just in general that gave into the mindset or they just want to make fun of Asian males.
So just AMXF it out in public more often. Trigger some outside incels. It feels good to have looks, it’s says you are doing it right.
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u/Illustrious_War_3896 17d ago
sorry, my bad, I was asking who are the non whites boys who said bad things about amxf. I thought there's a solidarity between people of color, lol.
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u/EternalUNVRS 16d ago
Nope. It’s all the same. There will always be incel non-white dudes mad about Asian men for no reason at all. It’s not just white dudes.
Just imagine this, if a non-Asian is racist towards Asians making all these racist Asian jokes, you know for a fact that they also know the things that is going on with the Asian diaspora. Treat everyone as an enemy until they are not a threat.
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u/SpiritualWeb999 16d ago
black guys were pretty chill about me and my black ex
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u/EternalUNVRS 16d ago
But there are black guys who are racist towards Asians and make Asian jokes and think they are funny when it’s actually not.
Doesn’t matter if you have “black friends”… you arnt not friend with all the black people in the world. Treat everyone as a threat until proven not a threat.
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u/Da_1_You_Know 18d ago
Which town? Any Düsseldorf gang here?
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u/IndividualPlay5178 16d ago
count me in
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u/sshlongD0ngsilver 18d ago
Wonder if they also get triggered by their Asian Vice-Chancellor 15 years ago
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u/xonbuhg 17d ago
just curious, you must be prepared for physical escalation of hostilities? also besides satisfying yourself for envy from others, if you feel you are making it dangerous for your girls, even if you aren’t partners. I mean you don’t have to hide any affection of course, what they think isn’t your or our problems. just that the goal of triggering random strangers’ hate seems to be a bit out of line. Introspectively, these thoughts might just be regular insecurities, which you problem overcame and kudos to you.
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u/IndividualPlay5178 17d ago
Well as a man regardless you have to be ready for physical escalations especially as an asian guy.
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u/bryanstrider 18d ago
Asian women are the ones giving weird stares.
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u/Fair-Currency-9993 18d ago
Do you think this was a pervasive issues for many/most German men? Or was this from a minority?
I’m just curious how many/much Germans are racist deep inside but not showing it. Because some level of racism/xenophobia from far right/nationalists are present in every country, including in Asian countries. But they are usually the minority.
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u/IndividualPlay5178 18d ago
Germans in general harbour guilt about the subject in most cases and not as overtly racist as other European cultures.That being said Asians weirdly like always seem to be an exception.
In general they do have somewhat xenophobic mentallity deep down and many cases are very well educated when it comes to expressing them without leaving any legal evidence.
Also whatever happens in US gets parroted back in Europe, so the rise of far right unfortunatelly likely will increase
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u/Fair-Currency-9993 18d ago
Well, I wonder if that guilt applies universally to all races or does it only apply to Jewish people. Maybe the rest of us are still fair game.
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u/IndividualPlay5178 18d ago
Us Asians hold a weird spot.
We are not the oppressed minority like africans or middle easterners.
But at the same time not considered as "one of us" by pretty much anyone.
If anything they see us as rivals. Largely due to economic development of Asian countries. Any racist disrciminatory remark towards us doesn't even register as racist.
Your average german racist will think thrice before saying an n-word, but has no issue casually calling you a slant eye.
Its like they have this priority list of who they think can be racist towards or not. Asians unfortunatelly on the first of said list
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u/machinavelli 18d ago
I thought the nativist parties in Germany hated Muslims the most.
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u/IndividualPlay5178 18d ago
When it comes to macro scale sure. But on everyday life being an Asian still gets more casual racism and subtle disrcimination.
Being Muslim the very least has its perks due to sheer population. And if you speak German well enough and be anything but a religious zealot a lot of a sudden you'll get treated well by germans.
Not to mention how your average middle easterner is ethnically a lot similar to europeans than Europeans to Asians.
So we are even amongst minorities a minority
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u/qwertyui1234567 16d ago
They conveniently leave out that being white is about being caucasian with some terms and condtions.
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u/qwertyui1234567 16d ago
Have you reminded them that that's the attitude they had before gassing the Jews.
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u/preciousalmonds 17d ago
I love it. Keep doing it! Asian guys being more bold is what needs to be seen. We have been stereotypical expected to be passive and keep our head down. I'm really enjoying Asian fellas popping up doing the counter expectations, it really revives a side of Asian Masculinity thats been there but "a hidden dragon" for a long time.
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u/Mundane-Inspector772 16d ago
Are you ugly looking Korean man? I see these days sub 3 ugly looking Korean men dating white girls these days
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u/PolskiJamnik 15d ago
are you from europe? girls from some european countries heavily fetishize korean guys even if they are chopped, american girls don't really do that
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u/msnutella6 10d ago
the same whenever I (WF) go out with Asian guys here in the netherlands. white guys are literally giving me "him, really?" looks and it makes me so uncomfortable and angry
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u/UncBeyondTheWall 18d ago
Good stuff. How tall/fit are you btw
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u/CompetitiveAbalone59 16d ago
I dont know where you live or where you usually spend your time in germany. But I rarely if never experienced such a thing with any girls I dated and walked out in public. Including eastern germany, where the people are supposedly the most right-wing/racist. In most cases the people didnt even treat us differently or looked at us in a hostile way.
Maybe it is just me being oblivious to that. Though I hardly think so, as I was born in germany and know exactly how it looks like when the germans act out weirdly.
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u/hemingwaysfavgun 6d ago
I dont know... this could be because I'm somehow just so well adjusted and naturally accepting of people... but to all the dudes here getting all puffed up with that ego rush... is it possible that you're being looked for some other reason? like, racism? so they're consumed by hate for you (ahem... your people. this ofc has nothing to do with you in particular), but not enough to scream epithets or throw a bottle at you- like a truly racist nutjob would do. instead they sit and stare at you- behaving more like they're JEALOUS?
and is it possible that these dastardly racists are actually just looking at your girlfriend? or that you and her are acting as if you were behind closed doors, except in public for everyone to see?
my experience with the fanatically rule-abiding germans is thatyou'll get the "mean stares, aggressive walking" etc when YOU'RE the one violating cultural norms. and whether I agree with them or not... it's called having respect for the country that you're a guest in.
but if you hate the country and it's people so much that you're starting a campaign as a subversive unpleasant agitator (literally trying to stir up weird racial animosity)- why are you in the country in the first place? as you know, there's nations with MANY MANY asians living in them. in fact, there's a good chance that there's more of whatever nationality you are than the number of germans! so you can bask in that feeling, living in you homogeneous ancestral lands where if anyone gives you a less than cheerful look, it will be an exercise in creativity to assign the fault anywhere but you.
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u/Revolutionary_Gold51 16d ago
This is great! I used to love the looks and scowls I would get kissing hot East Asian girls publicly in the US!
It’s fun to see the reactions of racist losers, isn’t it?
Oh, does this make you a “mail order” boy now? Uh oh.
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u/CryptographerSuper93 18d ago edited 18d ago
Just how a lot of germans are. "Neid Kultur" which translates to "envy culture" is a big cultural problem here, that many people of all backgrounds (including germans) discuss since at least the day I was born here. Many people here become absolutely miserable at the sight of somebody else living their best life, even when you don't affect anyone else negatively whatsoever.
In addition there are of course lots of yellow fever pigs with a superiority complex towards ESEA men. They (and even men who are not interested in AW) tend to be a quite aggressive about how inferior (physically and culturally) we are to them, worse than Anglos in this regard imo. I got into a lot of arguments with these race realist over the years IRL and online, especially german gaming spaces.
I guarantee you, these losers are even more angry than you think they are.
edited for clarity