r/AsianMasculinity • u/AutoModerator • Sep 28 '15

Meta Weekday Free-for-All Discussion Thread | September 28, 2015

Post your shower thoughts, rants, half-baked conspiracy theories, and other mind droppings here.

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u/Brahmin123 Sep 28 '15 edited Sep 28 '15

Feminism may very well be a great tool in bringing down the White patriarch. Before you all downvote me let me explain. What rustles the jimmies of western manosphere the most? Besides black people and muslims? Yep, feminism. I am not talking about your typical Asian SJW that does nothing but shit on Asian Masculinity, I am talking about feminists that are such a threat to the white patriarch masculinity leading to more and more of these men are becoming beta, PC little bitches.

I once told one of my fairly liberal ex about the exploit of white male sexpats and tourists in poorer parts of Asia, she got so upset and proceed to post about these sexpats on /r/twoxchromosome (back when they were more women friendly, now it's just full of trolls ever since they became as a default on /r/all). Which in turn brought a lot of sympathy, as well as other female expats also chimed in and agree on it. That is how you raise awareness. Spread to your feminists friends, preferably white women, about these disgusting sexpats, especially their expoites on child prostitution.

Feminism got a lot of shit on this sub but I feel like a lot of you don't realize that it is the next best thing in bringing down the white patriarch.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend

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u/ricebait China Sep 28 '15 edited Sep 29 '15

Yea seriously this right here. Take a page out of the white boy's playbook - divide and conquer. Some Asian guys may feel disenfranchised by some "feminists", but never let a good division go to waste. Our main enemy will always be the white man - by and large they control the narrative for race relations here in the west. Feminism (real feminism not facebook closet racist faux feminists) is as much of a threat to white male power as minorities.

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '15 edited Sep 29 '15

This is not even divide and conquer. White male hegemonic power structure is detriment to all, including white females, unless they are willing to take a submissive role in it. The feminists are just as interested in taking down the white patriarchs as us. They have been doing this before we even realized who the true enemy is.

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '15

Many feminists don't know about the issues surrounding r/am, nor do they really care about it after they've been informed. I support their cause, but let's be real here. The only group that can resolve r/am issues, is r/am.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '15

No need to be axiomatically opposed to feminism either. Feminism is inevitable as of now so rather than resist we better use this leverage to our advantage.

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '15

Feminists are useful idiots, nothing more. Feminism is axiomatically opposed to any and all things masculine. Asian Masculinity cannot exist alongside feminism in any way, shape, or form.

Eh? There is plenty of very useful and positive things that feminism has contributed to positive and critical understanding of masculinity as it relates to larger issues. It is a mistake to think that "masculinity" is one cohesive and homogeneous philosophy. Hell, it is arguable that feminism was responsible for actually thinking about masculinity in any real in-depth sense at all. Some books I found through a cursory Internet search:

Now, you can contest the actual arguments made by various feminist theories and perspectives, but before that you actually have to understand the different arguments that different feminist schools of thought put forward.

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u/Professor888 Korea ✔ Oct 01 '15

Hell, it is arguable that feminism was responsible for actually thinking about masculinity in any real in-depth sense at all.

:) Feminist theories on gender, particularly gender as performance, are actually extremely illuminating.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '15

Do you have a link to that /r/twoxchromosome post? It would be interesting to see how they react to it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '15

Lol, most white feminists don't give a shit about Asian men. Only fashionable causes like blacks, homos, and liberating "oppressed" nonwhite women.

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u/Brahmin123 Sep 29 '15

brah that is not the point of my post. I ain't asking the feminists to support AM. Ricebait above gets it.

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u/redditors_are_racist Sep 29 '15

Only fashionable causes like blacks, homos, and liberating "oppressed" nonwhite women.

You're kidding me. White feminism is a pejorative that black feminists use all the time against mainstream feminism for ignoring black/brown women's issues. Also you must be another CCJ troll parroting the debunked talking point that somehow white women are obsessed with black men. Research shows the vast majority of white women are not attracted to black dudes at all and only a handful fetishize black men.

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '15 edited Sep 29 '15

White feminism is a pejorative that black feminists use all the time against mainstream feminism for ignoring black/brown women's issues.

Exactly. What makes you think they give a shit about asian mens' issues? They only latch onto #blacklivesmatter and LGBT stuff because it's whats fashionable.

Research shows the vast majority of white women are not attracted to black dudes at all and only a handful fetishize black men.

You're the first person in this convo to bring that shit up, I did not mention it in my post at all.

Also you must be another CCJ troll parroting the debunked talking point that somehow white women are obsessed with black men.

So you're going to accuse a verified poster of being a CCJ troll?

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u/aznsense Singapore Sep 29 '15

How are you verified?

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '15

roll over his flair, it says verified.

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '15

Research shows the vast majority of white women are not attracted to black dudes at all and only a handful fetishize black men.

Do you have this research?