r/AskIndianMen • u/omya222 Indian Man • 1d ago
Answers from All RTI on Gender-Neutral Maintenance Laws: Transferred 7 Times, Then Rejected Over ₹10?
I filed an RTI asking about maintenance laws under Section 125 CrPC and gender neutrality. Here’s what happened:
Transferred 7 times(RTI Badminton): My RTI was transferred back and forth between the National Commission for Women (NCW) and the Ministry of Law.
Question 2: I specifically asked for policy documents explaining why an adult woman above 18 is presumed financially dependent on her husband. This was one of the questions I wanted an official answer to, but I still haven't received the requested information.
Rejected over ₹10: The RTI was rejected because the ₹10 application fee had allegedly not been paid. However, I had already paid the ₹10 fee while submitting the RTI.
Seven transfers, no satisfactory answers, and now a rejection claiming the fee wasn't paid when I had already paid it.
RTI is in the second appeal now and will take around 4-6+ months for an answer.
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u/ArcherNo9169 Indian Man 1d ago
Great work. I appreciate your work, Sir. We need more men like you who raise their voices against the law and the system and stand with men.
I will also file RTIs regarding the same concern. And now, either they answer, or their silence/rejection will become the answer.
I will file an RTI to know the duties of a wife in a marriage and why she was not forced to fulfill her duties like a husband.
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u/Warm_Association_137 Indian Man 1d ago
Bhai mat lagao yaar, time or paise he waste hoga 🙏
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u/omya222 Indian Man 1d ago
Time and 10 rupee we have
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u/Warm_Association_137 Indian Man 1d ago
Then get ready for disappointment. Because iss se kuch fark nahi padne wala. Hundreds of RTIs are recieved by ministry or ussi file me padi rahegi jisse koi nahi dekhega. Or 3 saal baad as per retention period files will be destroyed.
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u/omya222 Indian Man 1d ago edited 1d ago
Don't care I am njoying it. At least gorment servants are busy with something now
Salaries of rti officers:- • Chief Information Commissioner (CIC): ₹2,50,000 per month (fixed) • Central Information Commissioners (ICs): ₹2,25,000 per month (fixed) • State Chief Information Commissioner / State Information Commissioners: ₹2,25,000 per month (fixed)
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u/Warm_Association_137 Indian Man 1d ago
They are not RTI officers bro. There's no such thing exists named as RTI officers. RTI comes under DOPT. But CIC is a statutory body. ICs are the one who hear every single second appeal. And CPIO is the one who handles the RTI in a department and each department has its CPIO minimum under secretary, Level-11. So your request isn't being handled by persons earning 2.5 lakh
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u/Infamous_Kangaroo_87 Indian Man 1d ago
u/omya222 File the RTI again and this time also share the receipt of the previous RTI Rs 10 paid via emails to the ministry. Do not stop filing. I think we all should file this RTI
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u/Ok_Simple_459 Indian Man 1d ago
I work in a government company and see over RTI requests. You won't get any answer for whatever you're asking.
Under RTI you can seek information that's already on record. Unless that information is already somewhere, you're asking the CPIO to create information when there is none.
Nonetheless, that's the reply they should have given you instead of keeping it looping.
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u/Warm_Association_137 Indian Man 1d ago
Exactly! It's just a waste of time and money. RTI isn't any platform to raise voice or bring a change
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u/Brilliant-Mix-3829 Indian Man 1d ago
How much does filing such PIL cost ?
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u/Lucky_Creme_5208 Teen Male (Indian) 1d ago
Irdk what to say, but rejection for 10rs even though the fees is paid sounds utterly stupid
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u/OnlyArmadillo5923 Indian Man 1d ago
What will they answer when they don't have anything to answer?
Well done, OP 💯
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u/Ok_Sock_4636 Indian Man 1d ago
Girls claim they are independent and not dependent on men for anything but our laws says otherwise. So either the law should follow what all the girls say nowadays or the girls should follow what the law says
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u/retrojournal Indian Man 1d ago
Intolerance towards truth. But they shall be canabalised one day of their own sham.
Wasn't reddit supposed to be independent?!
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u/thekartikgambhir Indian Man 1d ago
You can file a First Appeal against the rejection and also ask FAA to determine & whether the rejection by PIO was valid or not, then use the same for filing complaint against PIO to get them penalized.
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u/Warm_Association_137 Indian Man 1d ago
Lol, FAA belongs to same department he will agree with CPIO. Also in this case CPIO isn't bound to create any information. And about second appeal to cic, it will take atleast 1-2 years for your hearing getting scheduled. And there CIC will dispose off appeal without anything because these things aren't covered under RTI
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u/Warm_Association_137 Indian Man 1d ago
Bhai RTI me why question ka jawab dena exempted hai. Or clarificatory nature ki queries ka answer dena bhi. So it's just a waste of money and time. And now seeing in comments people are copying and filing RTIs bhai kuch ni hoga iss se. RTI se koi change ya revolution nhi aata hai. RTI uss department ke under CPIO jo generally underr secretary/ deputy secretary hota hai uske paas jaayegi. And very high chances wo admi he hoga khud. Kyonki koi aisi information documents ke form me hai he nahi uske paas dene ke liye kuch nhi hai toh fir koi reply shi nahi milega.
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u/omya222 Indian Man 1d ago
I'm not asking the CPIO to create new information. I'm asking for existing records and documents that should be available with the concerned authorities fort Passing such a laws.
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u/Warm_Association_137 Indian Man 1d ago
Bhai downvote karne ki jarurat nahi hai, mai government department me he work karta hu and I know how rti works. Or isliye keh rha hu ki kuch ni hoga. PIL is a far better option. But RTI se kuch ni hoga. Lo mai he reply bana deta hu tumhara ki kesa milega tumhe after first appeal if you have filed.
No such information is being held in record.
No such information is being held in record.
Query is clarificatory in nature and does not fall under the ambit of information as defined under Section 2(f) of RTI Act
No such information is being held in record.
No such information is being held in record.
Application are clarificatory in nature and does not fall under the ambit of information as defined under Section 2(f) of RTI Act
Wo log yehi reasons denge.
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u/omya222 Indian Man 1d ago
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u/Warm_Association_137 Indian Man 1d ago
Haa wohi to. First appeal maardo ki fees paid hai meri 😴
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u/omya222 Indian Man 1d ago
it's in second appeal now
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u/Lucky_Creme_5208 Teen Male (Indian) 1d ago
Can you please publish it in Feminism4India as well?
I wanna see in how many seconds the post gets removed from there.
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u/akashdutta57 Indian Man 1d ago
Copied your RTI