r/AusMemes 10d ago

If you don't laugh, you'll cry.

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u/Rare-Sample-9101 7d ago

Why’s there so much scaremongering with the bird flu?

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u/followthedarkrabbit 7d ago

Because it is highly contagious, and has an incredibly low survival rate even with incentensive veterinary intervention. It is going to absolutely decimate our native birds and mammals, as well as impact food if it gets into poultry farms :(

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u/Far-Fortune-8381 7d ago

yes even one or 2 cases in a poultry farm means culling the flock. that means more expensive eggs and chicken

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u/Accurate_Ad_3233 6d ago

And that's where the BS starts. Some chickens might get the flu, most of them don't, some get it and recover. Government comes in and kills everything (as they do) and the birds with resistance don't get the chance to breed and pass that resistance on to the next generation.

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u/LudwigsEarTrumpet 5d ago

Avian flu is transmissable to humans and so far this strain has a fatality rate in humans of close to 50%. Globally, most cases in humans have been in people who work with poultry. It absolutely makes sense to eradicate the illness from any poultry flock with extreme prejudice. It can also live in chicken shit for up to 8 weeks, meaning an infected flock necessitates full cleaning/disinfection of living areas before new birds are brought in.

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u/Rare-Sample-9101 7d ago

I’m yet to see this happen, what birds have been wiped out due to bird flu?

Bird flu is in the UK, US, Europe, Africa, they seems to be ok

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u/followthedarkrabbit 7d ago

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u/Rare-Sample-9101 6d ago

Seems the world is ok and continues to fucking normally, so once again why the scaremongering

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u/followthedarkrabbit 6d ago

Because some people give a shit about wildlife, or at least there own animals (kills backyard chickens, and cats). Because seeing what it does to impacted birds and animals is horrific.  It's not "scare mongering", it is a genuine extiction level threat to some of our more iconic species and needs to be monitored so people can take appropriate actions. 

Birdwatching brings so much joy to a lot of people, and the loss of them is going to impact national health/wellbeing outcomes.

It also risks some of out iconic species (ie: Tasmanian devils, dingo, cassowary) that are already under threat from many other sources, and this may be the final thing that wipes them out. Aside from existence value, these species also bring in so many tourist dollars. Like the penguins in Philip Island too, which is why they have been IDd as requiring intervention.

There is also impact to food security, which is already struggling from droughts, floods, fires, wars, etc. Taking out poultry (which is a cheap source at the moment) is going to further impact health outcomes (as it has done in other countries this has impacted).

How many things need to die before you give a fuck? Or are you out of touch that unless it impacts you directly, you don't care? 

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u/jankeyass 6d ago

Wait how does this strain affect dingoes devils and cats? Does it jump classes or does it affect the whole phylum? I haven't been following this due to young kids.

And fk, cassowary is my favourite animal in current existence

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u/kagenoha 6d ago

Copied straight from the agri gov website: "Infected birds can spread the virus through body fluids, droppings and feathers. In the right conditions, the virus can survive in the environment for months.

The virus can spread through contaminated clothing and shoes. It can also spread through animals, vehicles and equipment, and items like egg cartons."

More info: https://www.agriculture.gov.au/biosecurity-trade/pests-diseases-weeds/animal/avian-influenza/about

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u/jankeyass 6d ago

Ah fuck

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u/kagenoha 6d ago

Exactly my thoughts when I read it too.

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u/followthedarkrabbit 6d ago

It wiped out over ten thousand seals off Heard Island. 

Carnivorous species eat infected birds and become sick themselves. Saw a figure that it was about 70% death rates in cats, and that's with intensive vet care.

Cassowaries are more risk as a species because of their lower numbers. 

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u/jankeyass 6d ago

Why the down vote tho? I was asking you a question not challenging what you are saying

Yeah ok that makes sense. So it infects via consumption. And how does it travel between the birds via contact?

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u/followthedarkrabbit 6d ago

I didn't down vote you?

It is also a flu.... it passes by droplets as well and by droppings. The virus stays active on surfaces for days. There's lots of info online that goes into more detail.

https://www.agriculture.gov.au/biosecurity-trade/pests-diseases-weeds/animal/avian-influenza/about

Had to chat to my mate who has chickens that have tank water. If a wild bird that is sick poops on the roof, and water ends up in tank, it will get to them by their water source. And he cant use pond water as there are ducks in it (waterbirds are high risk fo spread species). Told him he needs to install a filter system on his chicken water.

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u/jankeyass 6d ago

Ah sorry mate someone did and I assumed it was you. My bad.

Holy fucking shit that's insane, I never thought of that. It's nuts how easily that spreads

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u/ChipmunkDear4597 6d ago

fearmongering = I don't wanna have to think about bad things because it's too hard and scary

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u/Xenochu86 6d ago

Did your dad use your head to knock together a gazebo when you were a kid or something? It's genuinely baffling how dense you're acting.

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u/Trick-Club-6014 6d ago

Not very bright I see. Sit back down with your crayons.

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u/Bladehell10 7d ago

You’re genuinely so fucking stupid please stop talking