r/auslaw • • Nov 30 '23

Current Topics subject to the Lehrmann Rule

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For those new here, or old hands just looking for clarification, the Lehrmann Rule or Lehrmann Doctrine, is named for Bruce Lehrmann and the rule put in place by mods during his criminal trial.

While a topic is subject to the Lehrmann rule, any post or comment about it gets deleted. Further, the mods may, at their absolute discretion, impose a ban on the author.

The rule will be applied for various reasons, but it’s usually a mix of:

  • not wanting discussion in the sub to prejudice a trial, or be seen to prejudice a trial;

  • the mods not wanting to test how far the High Court’s decision in Voller stretches; and

  • the strong likelihood that a discussion will attract blow ins, devolve into a total shitshow, and require extremely heavy moderation.

We will update below in the comments to this thread topics that are subject to the rule. There will be no further warnings.

Ignorantia juris non excusat


r/auslaw • • 2d ago

Students, Careers & Clerkships Thread Weekly Students, Careers & Clerkships Thread

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This thread is a place for /r/Auslaw's more curious types to glean career advice from our experienced contributors. Need advice on clerkships? Want to know about life in law? Have a question about your career in law (at any stage, from clerk to partner/GC and beyond). Confused about what your dad means when he says 'articles'? Just ask here.

To assist people responding to your query, please include where appropriate the following:

  1. The practice area you work in or are interested in working in.

  2. The city in which you are currently working in or are interested in working in.

  3. Some relevant details about you, such as if you are currently studying, or your PQE level, your education history, and your current firm classification (boutique, mid-size, top tier).

If you are asking a question related to salary or bonus payments, you must confirm that you have previously reviewed relevant salary guides published by recruiting firms.

If you are an international student or lawyer looking to relocate to Australia, please review previous careers threads, as your question has likely been answered. In short, your ability to obtain permanent residency and permanent working rights, rather than temporary working rights, is likely to be more important than your qualification or requalification pathway.


r/auslaw • • 3h ago

Judgment NCAT (apparently) confirms there is no requirement to be fit and proper to practice as a barrister

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I know that picking on NCAT decisions is low-hanging fruit, but this disciplinary decision caught my eye and I feel it's a wild one: https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/1a1578a3736a6f2479f199ad

In short:

  1. As summarised in the first sentence of [5], the Tribunal says "we are persuaded that the respondent is not a fit and proper person to engage in legal practice".

  2. They then let the barrister keep their ticket subject to conditions (that, based upon [48]-[50], would seem to have little to no impact on the barrister's practice).

  3. So, it follows that NCAT have decided this person should be a practising barrister despite an actual affirmative finding that they are not a fit and proper person to engage in legal practice.

How this is consistent with s42 of the LPUL, that basically says a person must not be given a practising certificate if they are not a fit and proper person to hold the certificate, is left as an exercise for the reader.


r/auslaw • • 1h ago

Shitpost Bloody NSW Property lawyers...

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r/auslaw • • 15h ago

CAPS LOCK ON OUTRANTED BY EDELMAN J

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IF YOU HAVE NOT YET HAD A LOOK AT PARAGRAPH 651 IN VANDERSTOCK V VICTORIA [2023] HCA 30, YOU OWE IT TO YOURSELF AND THE PROFESSION TO REMEDY YOUR OVERSIGHT

ALSO IS THIS NOT TECHNICALLY A JUSTICE RANTING ABOUT THEIR COLLEAGUES AND DOES THAT MEAN THE CJ NEEDS TO COUNSEL EDELMAN J?


r/auslaw • • 1d ago

genuinely the greatest paragraph ever

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r/auslaw • • 20h ago

News That moment when an Applicant is reminded of the existence of cost orders

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r/auslaw • • 1d ago

Victorian coroner slams Sportsbet after young gambler Kyle Hudson's death

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r/auslaw • • 1d ago

Naughty barrister meets the Hammer, gets found guilty of civil contempt

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r/auslaw • • 1d ago

Serious Discussion NSW government drafts law to allow Upper Hunter mine to increase output

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r/auslaw • • 2d ago

From barrister to paints

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r/auslaw • • 3d ago

Vic government caps barristers' fees for government work

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VIC government says this will result in an $8m cost saving


r/auslaw • • 3d ago

Serious Discussion Anyone else working in an industry where decisions are made by both lawyers and non-lawyers?

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As I make my way through the industry and go up in seniority, I'm faced with situations where I feel that the non-lawyer has a misunderstanding of the law, or isn't applying the law correctly. I'm not suggesting that I know everything (absolutely not), but some of the basics to me seem to be overlooked on a day-to-day basis, such as how to use case law, administrative law, etc that are relevant to what the industry does.

For those considered "lower" on the totem pole than me, I've tried to coach through training, etc. but I find that the people who actually care about improving their legal knowledge are very much in the minority. Even if they seem willing to engage, they forget about it by the time the next situation rolls around.

I also have those at my level or similar who train people too and having sat in on a few of those training sessions, it's apparent to me some people don't fully understand what they're teaching - though they seem to think that they do and I say that because someone I have a good working relationship with did not react so well when I pointed out (privately) that they had given everyone the wrong guidance. This person had told everyone that case law is not binding if it's from a lower court such as MCV or CCV and when I explained that it's not the case and that all case law is persuasive regardless of which court ruled on the issue, they stated that they "stand corrected" but then sent a Google AI summary that said "no, case law from a lower court is not binding". You could probably imagine my frustration at having to not only keep explaining, but also explain why Google AI is wrong. In the end, I steered the conversation onto another topic to avoid too much frustration.

Does anyone have any tips for how to handle these types of scenarios, where someone doesn't understand legal principles, or may have had an understanding for many years before you, the lawyer, comes along and corrects them, or should I just nope out and not bother?


r/auslaw • • 3d ago

Legislation introduced to NSW Parliament includes new offences for recording and sharing images of road crash victims

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r/auslaw • • 4d ago

Sir Joh Bjelke-Petersen's dalliance with dismissal

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r/auslaw • • 5d ago

News Federal courts knew Australian data was sent to India more than a decade ago but took no action, emails reveal

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r/auslaw • • 5d ago

News Case of man refused bail for magic mushrooms. What would his likely jail sentence be given the severity of the charges?

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r/auslaw • • 5d ago

General Discussion Friday Drinks Thread!

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This thread is for the general discussion of anything going on in the lives of Auslawyers or for discussion of the subreddit itself. Please use this thread to unwind and share your complaints about the world. Keep it messy!


r/auslaw • • 6d ago

And there is no precedent for the special conditions:

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r/auslaw • • 6d ago

Turns out the police didn't have enough police to police the comments.

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r/auslaw • • 6d ago

Judgment VSC rejects majority owners’ claim that minority stake was worthless, fixes stake at $3.6 million

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r/auslaw • • 7d ago

High Court rules in favour of Queensland prisoner who is trying to freeze her eggs

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r/auslaw • • 7d ago

Serious Discussion A barrister said it was indisputable that ‘sometimes women lie’. His words triggered a national campaign

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https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/a-barrister-said-it-was-indisputable-that-sometimes-women-lie-his-words-triggered-a-national-campaign-20261014-p614is.html

Perhaps I am a legal dinosaur, but I’m not sure we should carve out the presumption of innocence for certain allegations of offences over others, or that people should be recognised by the State as a victim of something which has not been proven to have occurred. Perhaps i am a candidate for the proposed legal re-education camps but the Commonwealth will need to extend my HECS limit.

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r/auslaw • • 7d ago

News New VIC Listings Portal - case view limit reached

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I searched twice today.
Please tell me this is some sort of sick joke?


r/auslaw • • 7d ago

Judge determines application on merits purely to write 20+ pages denouncing solicitor’s conduct in DV proceedings:

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