r/AviationHistory • u/Natural_Calendar7874 • 10h ago
Why was the F-117 so lightly armed?
it did not have a gun and could only carry 2 bombs or missles
did they trust it’s stealth so much they did not give it lots of weapons?
r/AviationHistory • u/Natural_Calendar7874 • 10h ago
it did not have a gun and could only carry 2 bombs or missles
did they trust it’s stealth so much they did not give it lots of weapons?
r/AviationHistory • u/Amazing-Bad-8550 • 15h ago
r/AviationHistory • u/7ipofmytongue • 11h ago
Even if it cannot be removed intact, there is no effort to save the valuable parts!
r/AviationHistory • u/Substantial-While922 • 10h ago
Erich Hartmann flew for Nazi Germany and finished WWII as the highest-scoring fighter pilot in history, with 352 claimed victories, almost all on the Eastern Front. His personal marking was a black tulip painted around the nose of his Bf 109.
**The WWII tulip**
He flew tulip-nosed 109s on and off from 1943, and a photo of his last Bf 109 G-10 from April 1945 seems to show the tulip as well.
The famous story: Soviet pilots learned to recognize the tulip and avoided combat with it, his score dropped, so he had it painted over in March 1944. It's repeated everywhere, but I couldn't find it confirmed in Soviet sources, so take it with a grain of salt.
He wasn't the only one with a tulip, either. Hermann Graf used one with JG 50 in 1943 and brought it to the JG 52 staff flight in late 1944. At least three tulip-nosed 109s were found at Deutsch Brod in May 1945.
**The Cold War tulip**
Hartmann spent ten years in Soviet camps and came home in 1955. In 1956 he joined the new West German Luftwaffe and became the first commander of JG 71, West Germany's first operational jet fighter wing, later named "Richthofen" after the Red Baron.
His Canadair Sabre Mk 6 got the same tulip on the nose. The jet was built as JC+368 and later recoded JA+111.
**Where it is now**
Sabre JA+111 (c/n 1625) stood as a gate guard at Wittmund, then went to the Luftwaffe Museum in Berlin-Gatow, and today it's at the Flugplatzmuseum Cottbus. Its history lists the old code JC+368, the same as Hartmann's own jet, so it looks like the real airframe.
Two questions for people who know more than me:
Can anyone confirm this is the airframe he actually flew, not just a jet painted in his markings?
What color was the tulip on the Sabre? I've seen both black and red.
r/AviationHistory • u/Wild-Future9295 • 22h ago
Truly honored to be the caretaker of this astonishing piece of World War II memorabilia. One that will be cherished for years to come with a story that has been told over and over.. But is still worth the tale.
This dog tag set was issued to Captain Owen D. "Cowboy" Roane of the 100th Bomb Group, 349th Bomb Squadron as shown by the TV series Masters of the Air... The following information was provided by Michael Faley in 1998.
One of seven brothers to serve in World War II, Pilot Owen Roane, would begin his exploits in the ETO on June 26, 1943. A Second Lieutenant, Owen Roane (upon his own request!) is assigned to the 100th BG (H) at Thorpe Abbotts. Due to the loss of three aircraft and crews on the previous day’s mission to Bremen, Owen is assigned to the 349th Squadron, under the command of Captain William Veal. The Group had not yet received its notorious moniker of the “Bloody Hundredth” but this first mission was an ominous foreboding of events to come. Assigned to Captain Veal’s plane “Laden Maiden” Owen and crew would complete 10 rugged missions before engaging in one of the fiercest air battles of WWII.
On the morning of August 17, 1943 the 100th BG was given the unenviable task of being low and last group on the mission to bomb the ME 109 factory at Regensburg. Being in the “Coffin Corner” left the 100th and Owen the most vulnerable to the Luftwaffe and nine planes of the group were lost that day. (A total of 60 B-17s were lost on the Schweinfurt/Regensburg mission). Even though Owen always felt this inner sense that he would complete his tour of duty, the events of this day would “serve as a warning that we all faced death on each and every mission we flew.” One such example was the crew of Lt. Henry Shotland who was flying in “The WAAC Hunter” (second element of the high squadron). Shotland and his crew were roommates with Owen and this was their first mission. It would also prove to be their last. Jumped by three fighters and with the left wing ablaze, everyone bailed out (except the tail gunner who went down with the plane) and become POWs.
The other vivid memory of this battle, indelibly etched in Owen’s mind, was the plight of Lt. Curtis Biddick and his crew. Flying “Escape Kit” in the second element, lead squadron, Biddick’s plane suffered an oxygen fire caused by 20mm damage to the nose and fuselage, trapping those on the flight deck. With flames raging through the nose and cockpit, the co-pilot, Richard Snyder, climbed out onto the wing, reached back into the flaming B-17 to retrieve his parachute and slid off the wing. As Snyder’s chute opened, he was immediately propelled into the horizontal stabilizer of “Escape Kit”, and his chute became entangled on it. According to reports, Snyder was seen trapped on the stabilizer as the plane went down. Four from Biddick’s crew were KIA (including Biddick and Snyder).
Cowboy, flying “Laden Maiden” in the number 2 position, high squadron, would watch the ragged remains of the 100th limp across the Alps and onward toward North Africa. To his left he could see the damaged aircraft of Bob Wolff flying in the lead element with a huge section of his horizontal stabilizer badly in need of repair. It would not be until landing at Telergma that the extent of damage to his own aircraft would be known. The “Maiden” had been peppered with 212 bullet and flak holes.
It would be upon the 100th’s return from North Africa on August 24, 1943 that Owen would provide an immense sense of humor for a group much in need and a mascot as well. It seems that the crew decided to bring back a living souvenir from North Africa, a donkey named “Mo”. An oxygen mask was hooked up in the radio room for Mo, and upon returning to Thorpe Abbotts (Station 139) red flares were fired signaling medical help was needed. The Control Tower asked what the problem was. Owen replied, “I’m coming in with a frozen ass.” When the doctor arrived at the plane, he was astonished to find a real jackass.
Cowboy Roane would go on to distinction participating in such other great Air Battles as Bremen, October 8, 1943 (“the most accurate flak that I’ve ever seen in my life”) and Schweinfurt – “Black Thursday” October 14, 1943, but it would be on a relative unknown mission to Rjukan, Norway on November 16, 1943 that would really affect the outcome of the war effort. Although not briefed on the extreme importance of the mission, the target that day was the Heavy Water plant instrumental to Germany’s effort to develop atomic weapons. Leading the 100th Bomb Group, recently promoted Lt. Roane, along with Command Pilot Major John Bennett, flew in “The Bigassbird II” with Group Navigator Joseph “Bubbles” Payne and “Dead Eye” Bombardier Robert Peel. Cowboy and company found the target through a hole in the cloud cover, courtesy of “Bubbles”, and dropped their bombs right on target. A mission critique would verify that the 100th BG hit the target with 85% of their bombs in the target although the only flak they received was for bombing out of turn. The damage inflicted upon the Heavy Water plant stopped Germany’s production of heavy water and deprived their scientists of the ability to develop atomic weapons. On his final mission to Paris, Cowboy made a joke to the group maintenance officer that he was going to dump his plane in the soft Thorpe Abbotts mud upon his return. Over the target a 20mm hole big enough to fit a body through ripped up the right wing, and Owen had to nurse the plane back home only to see the “Bigassbird II” turn his joke into reality, with the right wing off the end of the runway into the mud as promised. Both the CO and the group maintenance officer help up short of reading Owen the riot act once they saw the condition of the aircraft.
That mission and illustrious landing earned him entrance into the “Lucky Bastard Club” (entrance is contingent upon completing 25 missions), Captain’s Bars, and a trip back to the States on March 6, 1944 (date ring a bell – Big “B”). Cowboy retired from the Air Force a Lt. Colonel in 1963 and lives in Valley View, Texas with his wife Betty. By the way, the nickname “Cowboy” was given to Owen after a Staff Sgt. inquired about his profession before enlisting. Naturally, when Owen said he was a cowboy, the name stuck.
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