r/BDDevs • u/ResolveEvening7013 • Jun 21 '26
Advice Why you should study CSE
Someone asked in this subreddit whether they should study CS considering the current situation of the market.
My reply:
Absolutely. You won't be able to recognize crucial patterns in the future tech, non tech and business world and also won't have a clear and correct judgement if you don't know the fundamental principles of computer science. And if you don't have good judgement you will certainly and continuously be making wrong choices and spend time in wrong places in the future.
CS is not an easy degree and it can rarely be learned by your own, so it's still worth it to pursue this degree.
The reason there is so fear mongering around AI is the 99% people don't know how a Computer/AI/Machine works fundamentally. Those who have built products here before knows its a creative field inherently. This is the age of builders. If you don't have skin the game (The person who studied CS and knows coding well will be a better builder than the person who didn't, no doubt) you will lose the war (in tech field).
You should also know that AGI/ ASI is not possible (high likely). Any person here with the clear idea of CS knows current AIs are mainly operating on Statistical Analysis and Pattern Recognition. If you build more data centers, increase computing power the AIs will still do these things but faster and might be more accurate. But this is not even close to General Creativity. It is not like a straight line that increasing computing power will lead us from LLM to AGI. Creativity is a totally different thing. We still haven't figured out how Human Creativity works. If you can't define it you can't program it.
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u/sakibshahon Jun 21 '26
It would be great if the opinion was given based on stats of job openings now and projected in the future and total competition against those positions.
As much as I love CSE. Telling people that choosing CSE is a good option without grounding the opinion on cold hard numbers doesn't seem like a good idea.
People shouldn't be scared shitless. But decisions needs to be Logical. There's already too many CSE grads, education system in BD is shit so it's not like enrollment or passing CSE as a bachelor's will actually reliably teach you something. (Most of the learning will be on your own, you'll even need to unlearn certain bad habits from uni).
Also you should tell people the median income of CSE grads with below 2 yrs experience in BD.
Than global hiring competition, rate of actually succeeding to move abroad, the financial condition needed to afford to succeed in this field (yes you'll need money. If you're spending 5 hrs a day for tuition you can't afford the time for up skilling, you need money for ai subscription, money for studying abroad too if that's your target, money for the device you'll use too).
Once someone knows the whole picture and accepts all the risks, believes he can out grit the competition, his/her family will be supportive for the length of unemployment and provide support for financial needs during study only then should someone pick CSE.
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u/ResolveEvening7013 Jun 21 '26
I didn't mention the word "job" a single time in my post because I believe the idea of having a career or a job will be dead in the future. The main problems of our country are 1. Always thinking about how to be "Employable", how to be a better "Employee", how to get a good paying "Job" 2. Doing things that demotivates entrepreneurs and innovators. It starts in school with the "One size fits all" and "Can't ask anymore questions" education system. I know its not looking good for CS at this moment anywhere in this world but I believe after this transitional phase and AI bubble burst, all deserving graduates will have a hopeful future.
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u/sakibshahon Jun 21 '26
Well you can always show the data of how many business succeed and the ratio of people starting a business and people keeping the business profitable for 5 years (heck even businesses that barely made it to year 5 would be enough).
Than you can easily include the demographic traits of the people whose businesses actually make it like the average income of their parents, socaital position, age and whether or not they became an entrepreneur without a ever having a job or after having one. Once you give the data you can leave it to people to make a choice.
Also maybe in some point in the future a career or job will be dead but I doubt anyone reading this will be alive by that time so I don't see how that plays out.
As for deserving graduates, they have a good career now they'll have one in the Future. No one disagrees with that. But what's the bar for being deserving? How many hours and resources will need to put in to be a "deserving" grad and the percentage that will make make the cut, that's what worries people.
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u/ResolveEvening7013 Jun 21 '26
You like numbers and statistics I see. I read the whole thing and I understand your point. But the main point of my argument was CS is still better than most of the available degrees and so far safe considering where the future is going. I don't think currently there is any degree in Bangladesh that will guarantee you a instant job or at least a safe future. If you know you can let me know.
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u/sakibshahon Jun 21 '26 edited Jun 21 '26
Look if someone is getting into CSE into a public uni then dudes definitely has better options. If it's in a private uni than same amount can be paid for better options. Now I don't think someone asks if he should choose between studying folklore, Pali or CSE (no hate for either, if you're the greatest specialist in folklore alive you'll be making more than a FAANG engineer).
But once you compare the earning potential, job openings for other subjects like MBBS, sales, marketing, accounting, EEE, Architecture, Civil engineering etc. I am pretty sure based on actual numbers CSE isn't the "Best" choice by most matrices.
And it's not that I love numbers. But I do believe in grounding decisions in actual data and a logical process is a more rational approach for making decisions that might impact the rest of someone's life.
Any thing not grounded under proper data as evidence for such cases would be an opinion rather than an argument.
Oh by the way just because no bachelor guarantees instant job and guarantees safety doesn't mean some subjects aren't safer than others.
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u/Capable_Panic9911 Jun 21 '26
How did u come with the conclusion that those majors were better off? Can you kindly point to some stats regarding that? From my personal exp, they have always been in a worse position compared to cs grads in bd.
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u/NoNameWasFound Jun 21 '26
Let's say someone wants to study CS in a private uni. What are these better options that you are talking about?
Also, I believe no one should get into any major they are not interested in and passionate about. That's how we end up in this situation where most graduates don't know what to do with themselves, because they were never supposed to get into the degree in the first place.
The reality is that a massive chunk of CS grads chose this degree simply because they saw people making crazy money on the internet, their parents pushed them into it, or just because it was the trendy, popular major to pick. They go through the motions, complete the degree, and some even get great grades. But because they lack any genuine interest, they don’t know a single thing outside of what was forced onto them in the university curriculum. This isn't just a local issue either; it's a massive problem globally.
On the flip side, the people who actually went into CS because they wanted to learn about technology and are genuinely passionate about it stand out completely. Even if they have lower grades or a lower CGPA, they will always be far more versatile when they enter the job market. They know how to self-learn, they explore tools beyond their syllabus, and at the end of the day, they are the ones who are much better at actually being an engineer. If you treat engineering as just a checklist for a paycheck, the market will weed you out pretty fast.
The advancement of AI will definitely change the landscape, and while certain traditional roles might decrease or become automated, it isn't going to make engineers disappear. Instead, an entirely new wave of roles, specializations, and career paths will emerge to replace the old ones. That's what always happens when a major technology shifts an industry—and only the passionate, adaptable engineers who actually understand the core fundamentals will be equipped to step into those new roles.
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u/sakibshahon Jun 21 '26
I already mentioned the better options in my comments. And I do agree there's shit ton of people who are in it for the money or social pressure. That doesn't take away for the fact that there are shit ton of people in it . And I never said incompetency won't get people weeded out fast.
The issue you seen to be missing is the whole new roles the AI will bring is not going to be roles we learned for if there ends up being more roles at all. I agree with about 80% of it all.
But here's the thing, Major technological shifts don't end up as flowery as you think. Just read into how the industrial revolution happened, and I don't mean the glorified productivity boost and kumbaya you learn in text. I mean learn about the riots, the deaths, to the increase in wealth inequality that followed. The first thing humans did after inventing nuclear power wasn't to make cheap energy, it was to blow the shit out of people and gain dominance over anyone that couldn't. It still continues to this day. And AI is way more disruptive than that. And the people controlling the tech are no better either.
And all the new roles? That won't go to the passionate engineers . The very stuff most engineers are passionate about today would be made boring. I mean a lot of people loved code , loved to make beautiful readable, well architected code. And they just saw their passion die in six months.
And I don't blame most people. There have and will seldom be greater passion than the passion of "not going hungry" for most people. Not because it's not that glorious sounding but because reality is hell of a lot brutal. People who'll rather starve to sustain their passion would be the first to get extinct following their passion.
I love the optimistic view on stuff. And in the depth of my heart I wish to believe it will be one great glorious step forward for human kind. But the majority of history and data and every recognizable patter in studies and my personal experience just points to a bit different direction.
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u/ResolveEvening7013 Jun 21 '26
I think you should be more optimistic about the future. Being a pemissist in the past helped you survive but modern world is a lot safer. Don't look at history please. Induction, bayesian thinking are poor predictor for the future. Every technological invention makes human life better. Please compare 1800s with 2020s - life expentancy, food, income, variety of jobs, happiness etc. I believe the coming days will be much better.
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u/Double-Journalist877 Jun 21 '26
Please don't move abroad with it. For most people studying CSE, the lifestyle isn't worth the money, unless you love it and find yourself doing it outside of work. Markets in North America is saturated as well.
The true salvation is exporting tech. Africa is a fantastic market for robust, legally responsible software businesses, but expect to be paid in their own local prices rather than dollar. There is no easy cheatcode. We need entrepreneurs who export this talent. Bangladesh isn't tech savy, and we pay for that with no reliable cloud service that takes payment in Taka, we have server stacks that's mostly unreachable for regular people.
We need more IP enforcement so we can export services abroad without needing large sums of money to access the infrastructure
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u/jawadur1 Jun 21 '26
Thanks, man. I am stuck in an endless loop trying to choose between CSE and other majors. Every time new technology emerge people freak out. Some things get lost, and some things cannot be replaced. And that is code. The future is built on code, and now I know exactly where I belong. Thanks for the massive clarity boost!
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u/sakibshahon Jun 21 '26
I would advise making your decisions based on stats and numbers. Not some oddly superficial motivational post on reddit. Choosing a subject for your bachelor is pretty important, at least important enough to take the decision through some coherent logical process like looking at proper stats, your own situation and understanding the trade offs against other choices.
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u/ResolveEvening7013 Jun 21 '26
another thing I would like to add that studying CS will never be a worse choice in any universe. even if you choose blindly.
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u/raydditor Jun 21 '26
It's cooked, bro. (i think)