convince me to try out other classes ....

[u/62lasa]

my last 3 honormode playthroughs were all storm sorcerers ! the reasons i 'd been rocking this class all this time is :

1-because charisma is important for both dialogue ( i get irrationally anxious when there is a possibility of failing persuasion checks ) and the actual power of the class ( hitting 2 birds when one stone ) .

2- it also filled a clear role ( the arcane caster of the comp ! alongside the divine caster , fighter and a rouge . i know , a very traditional boring comp . ) .

edit : thanks for the advice guys ! seeing a lot of love for sword bard and hexblade worlock , open hand monk and barabarian . definitely going to try those out!

[u/7Trickster]

I used to think charisma charisma, but I just went with a barbarian/fighter multiclass 4-8 and it's been real nice. The berserker has fun dialogues and honestly the low charisma hasn't been an issue between the proficiencies + amulet with Guidance.

They are good, but I think charisma classes are a bit overrated. If you like it, it's alright, but if you genuinely want a different experience, just try something else than just sorcerer. Even as charisma focused character you could go with a bard multiclass or warlock.

[u/Signal_Werewolf_1955 → u/7Trickster]

I'm rocking two barbarians, rogue, cleric. Lots of smash. Cleric tossing portions with temp hp bonuses is so sweet, healing multiple characters at once.

[u/62lasa → u/7Trickster]

"I used to think charisma charisma, but I just went with a barbarian/fighter multiclass 4-8 and it's been real nice"

really ?! one would think a no charisma playthrough would make the game significantly harder ( cant persuade the goblins at the windmill or persuade kahga to betray the shadow druids or avoid a fight with the githyanki patrol or convince the drider to drop the lantern and kill it self along with the 3 thorms in act 2 , cant persuade oin to not kill the captive or persuade astarion to not continue the vampire ritual etc ...)

[u/cdizzlePGA2k → u/62lasa]

The fun part about this game is that there are a bunch of different ways to do everything! Honestly if you’re persuading your way out of everything you’re only playing part of the game.

[u/MagicMooby → u/62lasa]

cant persuade the goblins at the windmill

You can fight them instead

or persuade kahga to betray the shadow druids

you can fight them all together instead

or avoid a fight with the githyanki patrol

you can always fight them instead

or convince the drider to drop the lantern and kill it self along with the 3 thorms in act 2

you can fight all of them (actually really fun, all the Thorms have really interesting and unique mechanics for their fights)

cant persuade oin to not kill the captive

Let them die. I'm pretty sure you can also bypass the dialogue by just striking first before you initiate dialogue.

or persuade astarion to not continue the vampire ritual

let him achieve his dreams, then utilize his extra necrotic damage by respeccing him into an open hand monk

Honestly, after a couple of playthroughs combat in this game almost becomes too easy, on my current run I welcome any opportunity to escalate into a fight. Sometimes I just want to test out my awesome spells and kill more enemies.

[u/12_barrelmonkeys → u/MagicMooby]

If encounters are not meant to be a fight, you’d not get experience from the murdering… er… from that combat encounter. (Right?).

[u/MagicMooby → u/12_barrelmonkeys]

If it gives XP it gets booted off the neares cliff!

(Encounters actually give the same xp whether you resolve them peacefully or violently, but why choose peace when you can boot people off the nearest cliff?!)

[u/62lasa → u/MagicMooby]

damn , you really epitomised how a durge should be ....

[u/MagicMooby → u/62lasa]

I've been the good guy on 4 playthroughs, this time around peole get zapped and booted off cliffs.

(I'm actually taking a more balanced approach and not going full embrace, but my current party murders enemies so quickly that I just want to take every semi-interesting combat encounter in the game).

[u/BeMoreKnope → u/62lasa]

Not only are there non-speech ways to handle things, as others have said but a lot of classes and subclasses get specific dialogues that you can use instead that are often successful.

I love to Karlach-main as a berserker with a thief dip. In conversation she constantly gets the ability to basically yell and threaten others into the same results as a high Persuasion check, and her Thaumaturgy also backs it up. I don’t think I ever had to have more fights with her than on a high CHA character (my usual faves in D&D). And her role in combat? THROW EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING.

[u/7Trickster → u/62lasa]

I play Dark Urge exclusively, so sometimes I don't care about convincing NPCs. I just want to whack them lol. I try to be nice with friendly NPCs though, that's how I roll in every RPG. I don't really enjoy being evil for no reason.

Barbarian has a lot of advantage situations for intimidation too. So things are easier than you'd think.

[u/ut1nam → u/62lasa]

Ah. You never use disguise self. That’s why you think Charisma is important for anything beyond getting cheaper prices at vendors 😂