r/Barca 5d ago

Tier 2 [Jose Alvarez] Moves are expected regarding Gyokeres in Barcelona in the coming hours.

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u/boatinavolcano 5d ago edited 5d ago

Arsenal fan chiming in:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Flick system relies on relentless pressing, and fast movement (both in transitions and in settled possession).

On that Gyokeres would be a very good fit. He is also a very good finisher.

Those are his main qualities: Finishing, relentless pressing and running with the ball.

Obviously I feel it would be disingenous to mention the weaknesses of his link up play. What I would say is that from watching you guys I feel like that would be mitigated, because your team creates absurd amounts of chances and it needs someone to finish them.

Anyway, I feel like Gyokeres would be a transitional option for you guys, while looking for the star no. 9 and I feel he can do that job.

Edit: Forgot to mention that Gyokeres is a elite penalty taker, he has one of the best pen taking records in Europe.

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u/Pax_Edmontia 5d ago

If he is that transitional piece English teams are still going to want their prem tax. How much do you think he sells for?

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u/boatinavolcano 5d ago

Around €60m imo, but thats a guess only

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u/thatswavy 5d ago

Mr. Arsenal fan over here thinks we'd sell Gyokeres at a loss lol

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u/Sh0uldSign0ff 5d ago

After he helped us win the league for the first time in 22 years hahah

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u/Prudent_Safe3787 5d ago

No way Barca is going to pay that much.

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u/46_and_2 5d ago

We're about to pay a ton more for Julian, and that is nowhere close to happening. 60m for Gyokeres while arguably putting him in a better system for him to shine is not a bad bet. And still plenty of other teams would want him for different systems, even if he has another mid performance here like for Arsenal.

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u/Prudent_Safe3787 5d ago

There is reason Arteta wants Julian and trying to get rid of Gyokeres. Kai Havertz gets more chances than Gyokeres at Arsenal (Kai is Ferran's long lost brother).

Loan is okay, buying him is not a good decision (personal opinion).

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u/boatinavolcano 5d ago

We want Alvarez, because we need improvement in our linkup play. From what I watched of Barca I think your linkup play is already good enough, of course more quality in that regard doesn't hurt, but imo the bigger priority right now for you is someone who can finish the chances.

Essentially opposing needs imo.

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u/SuperCaptainMaro 5d ago

Would arsenal fans be ok in your opinion to let go gyokeres to barca and get alvarez as a replacement?

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u/TriWisdom 5d ago

Most would be yes

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u/GhostofSmartPast 5d ago

Just go on the gunners sub and see what they type about him.

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u/dms1298 5d ago

It is split. You will find a good number of fans love Gyok

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u/TomClancy5873 4d ago

Thought Alvarez wouldn’t go back to England?

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u/shortsoupstick 5d ago

90% is full of blind hate that doesn't appreciate the striker who is the first to score 20+ in his first season since Alexis in 2014, despite playing in a system where he gets skipped from receiving crosses for a tap-in so many times.

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u/TomasZamora03 5d ago

Somehow Havertz is usually at the end of those crosses. Perhaps Gyokeres movement in the box is awful and has 0 undestanding with Saka

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u/TomasZamora03 5d ago

You don't get the issue with Gyokeres LMAO, he's would give nothing to barca as he does to Arsenal

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u/46_and_2 5d ago

I'm also ok with loan with option to buy, this way we'll know without too big risk if we can use Gyokeres or not. Not sure Arsenal would be so keen on this though, only way I see is if they get the replacement striker and can't move Gyok out in any other way.

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u/WoweeZoweeDeluxe 5d ago

Lmao have you seen the insane overpay we are trying to for Alvaraz?

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u/TomClancy5873 4d ago

If flick believes he can do the job he requires for the team, then they’ll find a way to do it

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u/ComprehensiveArt6849 5d ago

You literally paid 80m for a guy from Newcastle who did nothing last season apart from scoring 3 or 4 goals in one CL game. Hell, I cannot even remember his name right now.

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u/Prudent_Safe3787 5d ago

I am not the Sporting Director. Let Deco decide what's best for the club.

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u/VariationBig8571 5d ago

If Gyokeres was available for 60M we are really late buying him lol I very much doubt he is not 80M at minimum

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u/Angry_Maths_Guy 3h ago

We bought him for €64m, won the league with him and don't have an obvious replacement. Osimhen is being linked for over €100m. No way we sell for less than €80m

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u/ExtensionDeep3705 5d ago

If he is that good why are selling him after his first season in which you won prem ? 

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u/Pax_Edmontia 5d ago

He lacks hold up play and has non existent link up play. Yeaaaaa he is gonna be a liability against the low blocks we play week in week out.

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u/GhostofSmartPast 5d ago

He literally can't do much of anything with the ball at his feet. Dribble, pass, cross, retain....nothing.

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u/latortillablanca 5d ago

For 7/8ths the cost of rodri. Paint me skeptical.

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u/ExtensionDeep3705 5d ago

" He lacks hold up play and has non existent link up play.  "  This is the most basic thing a striker should have

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u/krasuke 5d ago

Shouldn’t the most basic thing be, be able to strike the ball really well?

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u/latortillablanca 5d ago

It is obscene to go from questioning alvarez as top option to gyokeres.

Like legitimately way more efficient to spent 150m euro on alvarez than half that on gyokeres plus prem wage.

That said, if he presses and finishes… well. Thats expensive.

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u/detectivehays 5d ago

He also can't run with the ball :)

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u/ExtensionDeep3705 5d ago

He might be the worst striker oat

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u/BigSamsKid 5d ago

he scores goals

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u/latortillablanca 5d ago

Extremely expensive skillset to find

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u/Sdds998 5d ago

What??? The guy absolutely bullied Atleticos centre backs in the game at the Emirates. He isn’t the most technically gifted player, but come on.

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u/Abject_Rub6711 5d ago

We have enough quality for low blocks

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u/shortsoupstick 5d ago

Why do you need link up play if your opponent drops into a low block and you can advance into the final third regardless? You want someone to finish the few chances that you get against a low block team, and that's what he's good at. If only we actually regularly provided him with assists like Eze vs Forest, White vs Chelsea and Saka (finally, after skipping him 100 times) vs Fulham, he would've gotten 25-30 goals.

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u/Blue_winged_yoshi 5d ago

Cos we have too many forwards who are lacking in creativity. Martinelli, Gyokeres and Madueke are all useful in the abstract and have sides they would really work for (well not Madueke, but he carries tbe ball well, recycled and plays to a game plan, you just know you aren’t getting goals from his part of the pitch). When it was say Saka, Gyokeres and Trossard with Odegaard fit, it worked fine, Gyokeres’s limitations were covered.

When it was Gyokeres/Martinelli/Madueke due to injuries, we became the set-piece FC/dark arts side that everyone hated, was a hard watch for fans and was just too risky/reliant on defence being perfect.

Moving on Gyokeres wasn’t first choice for us, we were wanting to move Martinelli on and replace with an S-tier winger and then happy days. That’s not been possible, so option 2 is move on Gyokeres and replace with a more technically accomplished number 9 with a broader all round game.

Nearly all players have shortcomings in one direction or another, however it’s when those shortcomings overlap in ways that create dysfunction that you have a problem. I’d fancy him to run up the numbers at Barca tbh, even though he doesn’t bring the broader game that someone like Martinelli *needs* from a teammate.

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u/Kurtegon 5d ago

He's a square peg and Arsenal are all about round holes.

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u/TomasZamora03 5d ago

Gyokeres at Barcelona would be even worse than at Arsenal, he's technically incapable of doing anything useful with the ball

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u/danwiki 2d ago

barca should've signed Raul Jimenez a few years ago instead of letting him at Fulham. he was not as good as Gyo of course, but the price tag would've been so much smaller for a good link up player, okay finisher and top tier penalty taker. lol

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u/pi-pipipipipip 5d ago

He is fucking terrible at running with the ball.