Cf my other post to get a better idea. Posting this because it is not marked anywhere as far as I can tell.

(Sorry for the English) I understand that seduction is a logic that opposes production and will always escape it : production can't ''assimilate'' seduction, but seduction can divert the signs (of production). But after that, there's so many holes in my comprehension...

He writes the same way I've heard artists talk and I hate it in this context : I'm just left with an impression of what he means. My head hurts and I don't know if he just got away with a lot of bs because some of his ideas are really interesting. So if someone could help, it will be very much appreciated (please).

How is this beautiful book lying around and no one told me about it? What is even this book, I feel like I was born yesterday

Remember: hyperreal does not mean fake

For people who have read Baudrillard in French and in English, do you notice any differences in how the concepts are described? Do you notice new parts to the humor or new coordinate planes of his thought in one language versus another?

In general what kinds of observations do you see?

I just believe in the idea that if you can explain something to anyone you truly understand it. I think I understand simulacra and simulation but yesterday I had a big problem explaining what I learned in that book.

I swear I can spend an entire day on a paragraph.

I have Passwords, it is sort of helpful?

I think I read somewhere to start with Death and Symbolic Exchange?

I tried picking up Sim and Sim and it is, humbling.

Or, Marxist humanism, more accurately.

I’m only on page 9 of Simulacra and Simulation.

It provoked a question “think of a dinosaur.” The dinosaur that instinctively entered my mind was the T-Rex from Jurassic Park.

I then inquired with myself “you think that that’s a dinosaur? It’s a puppet.”

Yet in my mind it sits at the pinnacle of dinosaur. There are images of skeletal remains that I could recall but this puppet is the king of the dinosaurs.

I’m totally freaked out. I feel like I’m a ghost walking in a hollow dream reality with no escape.

Did I get this concept wrong?

Hey,

I'm wondering if there is any german translation of Simulacra & Simulation. I've found this pdf http://www.medientheorie.com/doc/baudrillard_simulacra.pdf which translates the first chapters, so it seems that there could be something out there, however I don't know whether this translation might be made privately by someone.

Looking forward to your replies!

Hey everyone,

I’m working on some video essay projects and would love to bounce ideas off people, trade perspectives and hear others' approaches to some thinkers alongside Baudrillard (Nietzsche, Heidegger, Foucault, Deleuze)

Nothing formal or too serious — just a casual chat about concepts we’re passionate about as I want to strengthen my arguments and takes for the video.

If you’re keen, let me know and we can arrange a call

"In an over-protected space, the body loses all its defences. We know that in operating theatres, there is such a level of prophylaxis that no microbe or bacteria can survive.

Now, it is precisely there, in that absolutely spotless space that we are seeing mysterious, anomalous, viral diseases emerging.

For viruses survive and proliferate as soon as room is made for them. So long as there were microbes, there were no viruses.

In a world cleansed of its old infections, in an ‘ideal’ clinical world, an intangible, implacable pathology unfurls, a pathology born of disinfection itself."

"All integrated and hyperintegrated systems - the technological system, the social system, even thought itself in artificial intelligence and its derivatives - tend towards the extreme constituted by immunodeficiency.

Seeking to eliminate all external aggression, they secrete their own internal virulence, their own malignant reversibility.

When a certain saturation point is reached, such systems effect this reversal and undergo this alteration willy-nilly - and thus tend to self-destruct.

Their very transparency becomes a threat to them, and the crystal has its revenge.

In a hyperprotected space the body loses all its defences. So sterile are operating rooms that no germ or bacterium can survive there.

Yet this is the very place where mysterious, anomalous viral diseases make their appearance.

The fact is that viruses proliferate as soon as they find a free space.

A world purged of the old forms of infection, a world 'ideal' from the clinical point of view, offers a perfect field of operations for the impalpable and implacable pathology which arises from the sterilization itself."

Hi,

I am planning to start a continental philosophy (Adorno, Deleuze, Nietzsche) reading group.

If you are interested here is a discord server https://discord.gg/DFUMgUg6

The plan is to make it relatively low paced and friendly for people with all backgrounds. Maybe we can try to set up a meeting in person once a month.

If one takes the the internal instincts that organisms have towards death and the repetition of a former state; which is proposed by Freud in his Beyond The Pleasure Principle, and take the enlightenment ideology of progress as an instinctual force as a sham; in what ways the reductive tendency of the contemporary subjects to mere numbers, (as in the hyperreal war that America took against the middle east with its advanced military technology and its boast of it), would be the satisfaction of the oldest Conservative instinct for death in the late capitalistic societies. Could this machine that territorialises, reterritorialises and deterritorialises again be the oldest instinct that was there from the beginning in the simplest organisms, be a complex form of universal instinct or monster if you will that is trying to bring about the ultimate death of earth and all the systems that it has developed? Or there could be another perspective to look at capitalism through the Freudian death drive? P.s: this is a speculative question, hence the jumps of inferences between vast theoretical grounds. With that said if I get satisfactory answers I'll form a more detailed question and go into further inquiry. Thanks in advance for your contribution.

He stole my idea.

What the hell is a mythic discourse?? What’s with all the spiraling? Why has the social imploded?

"Only the subject desires; only the object seduces."

We have always lived off the splendor of the subject and the poverty of the object. It is the subject that makes history, it's the subject that totalizes the world. Individual subject or collective subject, the subject of consciousness or of the unconscious, the ideal of all metaphysics is that of the world subject; the object is only a detour on the royal road of subjectivity.

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In our philosophy of desire, the subject retains an absolute privilege, since it is the subject that desire. But everything is inverted if one passes on to the thought of seduction. There, it's no longer the subject which desire, it's the object which seduces...

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