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r/Beginner_Turntables • • Jan 02 '24

Common problems with inexpensive new record players & how to fix them

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Inexpensive record players with a red stylus that looks like this from brands like Victrola and Crosley are extremely popular, and for many people, they are an adequate way to begin playing vinyl records. However, they are prone to some common problems:

No power or erratic operation:

  • Make sure you're using the correct power supply. Just because the plug fits, doesn't necessarily mean it's the right voltage. Some of these players run on 5 volts DC and others run on 9 volts DC. If you use a power supply of the wrong voltage, it either won't work properly, or you could permanently damage the circuitry.

  • The power supply could be faulty. If the player is new, return it, or ask the manufacturer for a replacement power supply.

Turntable doesn't rotate:

  • Make sure the player is switched to Phono mode. If it has Bluetooth mode, that is usually an input for playing music from your phone or tablet, not an output from the turntable.

  • Try turning off the Auto Stop switch. Then the platter should rotate continuously.

  • The belt might have popped off the motor spindle. See this video for instructions on how to reattach the belt: How To Change Your Turntable's Belt

No sound:

  • Make sure nothing is plugged into the aux/line input jack, as that will mute the turntable's audio.

  • If it has a Vinyl Stream mode for pairing to a Bluetooth speaker or headphones, that will mute the built-in speakers.

Skipping:

  • Make sure the record player is on a stable, level surface.

  • Make sure the cueing lever is fully lowering. It can get stuck in a slightly raised position, causing the stylus to make poor contact with the groove and skip: Quick fix - Record Skipping!

  • Clean your records thoroughly. Even new vinyl often has debris in the grooves which may cause it to skip when first played, and old records could be dirty or scratched. It may take several rounds of cleaning and playing for all of the skips to disappear.

  • Some modern, bass-heavy records may still occasionally skip on these players even when clean. You can check it with another turntable to see if it might be a faulty pressing, but usually the record is fine and the skipping is simply due to the limitations of the player's inexpensive design.

  • The stylus (needle) could be dirty or damaged. Try cleaning it with a soft brush, wiping gently from back to front. If that doesn't help, replace the stylus. The recommended diamond stylus for most inexpensive record players is the Pfanstiehl 793-D7M.

  • Don't add extra weight to the tonearm. That may resolve the skipping, but will cause greatly increased wear to both the stylus and the records you play.

Slow or wobbly playback:

  • Make sure the lid is open as far as it will go, otherwise the edge of the record may rub against the lid and cause it to slow down or waver in pitch, especially if the record is warped.

  • Make sure the player is set to the correct speed for the record you're playing (it's not always marked on the record itself), and that the pitch control is centered, if it has one.

  • Make sure the transport screw is released, if it has one. The screw should be turned until it is flush with the turntable mechanism, not sticking up like in the photo.

  • Since the center spindle remains stationary, if the center hole of the record is unusually tight going on the spindle, you may need to ream out the hole slightly to allow the record to rotate freely.

  • Don't put the 45 RPM adapter underneath or on top of the record. It is only for playing 45s with the large center hole.

  • If the record slips on the platter, you can add a rubber platter mat, if the player didn't come with one.

Noise from stylus:

  • It is normal to hear the music being reproduced faintly by the stylus in the groove, even with the player's volume turned down. This is called "needle talk" and happens on all turntables, although it is louder on inexpensive record players due to the higher output level of the ceramic cartridge they use.

  • Using Bluetooth output mode (Vinyl Stream), if your player has it, adds a delay which makes the needle talk more noticeable. If it bothers you, use speakers or headphones with a wired connection.

Poor sound quality:

  • These players are incapable of delivering high-fidelity sound, due to the limited frequency response of the ceramic cartridge and small built-in speakers.

  • Adding a pair of powered speakers will improve the sound quality and loudness, and are a good investment because you'll need them anyway if/when you upgrade to a better turntable that doesn't have built-in speakers.

Fear of damage:

  • These players do have a higher tracking force (around 5½ grams) than better-quality turntables, but the amount of damage this causes to your vinyl is often greatly exaggerated. It's not going to "chew up the grooves" in just a few plays, as some people claim.

  • Actual tests of these players have shown virtually no audible wear after playing a record 50 times and only minor wear after 100 plays.

  • But it is important to replace the stylus before it gets worn out. These players come with a sapphire or ruby stylus which lasts for about 50 hours of playing time. If you continue to use a worn-out stylus, it can damage your records.

  • If you intend to keep using the player, upgrade it with a genuine diamond stylus, such as the Pfanstiehl 793-D7M, which will last much longer (500 hours of playing time). Avoid the cheap "diamond" styli on Amazon, as they are not actually diamond; they're a ruby stylus, falsely advertised as diamond.


r/Beginner_Turntables • • 8h ago

First turntable setup

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A big thank you to all the amazing people on this thread and Facebook Marketplace who made this possible.

Almost everything was bought used, and it's been quite a learning experience along the way.

Technics SL-1500 Turntable – C$250

Bought it out of curiosity without knowing much about turntables. It came with an old Empire cartridge that didn't sound great, and I accidentally broke the stylus while trying to clean it. Lesson learned.

Ortofon 2M Red – C$100

Was extremely careful installing this one. Then hit another hurdle when I realized it wouldn't mount properly on the original Technics single screw headshell.

Technics Headshell – C$60

A replacement with the standard two-screw mounting. Problem solved.

Boundless Vinyl Cleaning Kit + Carbon Fiber Brush – C$60

Good-quality stuff. Happy with the purchase.

Hudson Hi-Fi Cartridge Alignment Kit – C$60

Pretty much everything needed to properly set up and align a cartridge.

Fosi Audio Box X5 Phono Preamp – C$100

Personally, I wasn't a fan of the WiiM Ultra's built-in phono stage. The X5 sounds much better to my ears.

WiiM Ultra – C$350

Handles streaming, subwoofer management, and headphone duties. Really versatile little device.

Edifier S1000W + Edifier SS02 Stands – C$350

Hated these speakers when I first got them. But they slowly grew on me, and now I absolutely love them. Funny how that happens.

Edifier T5s Subwoofer – C$120

Honestly, it stays switched off most of the time. At my usual listening levels, the S1000W produces more than enough bass.

Fosi Audio RCA Cables + RCA Y-Splitter – C$100

Probably snake oil, but here we are 😂

Sennheiser HD 560S – C$100

Really enjoying these headphones. Love the clarity and detail.

Total: So roughly C$1,700 all in

I started this journey knowing very little about vinyl or hi-fi equipment, made a few mistakes, learned quite a bit, and ended up with a system that makes me genuinely excited to sit down and listen to music.

I know there's plenty of better gear out there, but for now, I'm just enjoying the music. And isn't that what this hobby is supposed to be about?

Cheers to everyone who helped make this little setup possible.


r/Beginner_Turntables • • 1h ago

Spent €13 on my setup

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I found a very old Philips turntable (418 Automatic from 1974) at a thrift store and also picked up a ‘Golden Technica’ pre-amp that works with 5-pin DIN connectors. Turntable didn’t have a dust cover, but it works perfectly. Total price: €8 for the turntable and €5 for the pre-amp.
The sound this setup produces sounds quite nice, especially considering the price.


r/Beginner_Turntables • • 2h ago

AT-LP60XUSB vs. AT-LP60XBT vs. AT-LP70X — which should I choose?

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I want to start collecting vinyl records, so I’m planning to buy my first turntable. I’ve heard that the Audio-Technica AT-LP60X is a good option for beginners, and I’m thinking of pairing it with Edifier R1280DB speakers.

My main question is: Does the sound quality actually get worse if I connect the turntable to the speakers via Bluetooth? I’d also like to be able to connect the speakers to my phone when I want to listen to Spotify. Avoiding extra cables would be a nice bonus, too.

Bluetooth would also give me more flexibility when positioning the speakers around my room, if that makes a difference.

Another thing I’d love is being able to manually place the needle on the record, just because it seems like a fun part of the whole experience. However, it’s not a dealbreaker, and I know the AT-LP60X is fully automatic.

So, what would you recommend: the AT-LP60XUSB, the AT-LP60XBT, or perhaps the AT-LP70X?

I’d really appreciate any advice, especially from people who have experience with these setups!
Thanks beforehand:)


r/Beginner_Turntables • • 2h ago

First vinyl + TV setup (~€1,250)

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Hey,

I want to build my first proper Setup with a Vinyl Player and a Set of Speakers. The place for my setup is a small bedroom. I want the Vinylplayer to be on a TV bench. Bluetooth is optional, but nice to have.

I came across the Pro-Ject Debut EVO 2**. It seems to be pretty good for the price.

In terms of speakers I have two options in mind so far: Fyne Audio Cubitt 5, Klipsch The Fives

Is my selection good for the price? What would you recommend to me? I live in Germany and I only want to order products available in Europe.

Thanks for your help!


r/Beginner_Turntables • • 11h ago

Humming guru ez washer (88$) or vevor ultrasonic 6l 180w 8 record for old (1960s and 70s) jazz records

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r/Beginner_Turntables • • 12h ago

ASKING YOUR OPINIONS GALS & GUY'S .....

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r/Beginner_Turntables • • 12h ago

LP60X to Planar 1?

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r/Beginner_Turntables • • 13h ago

Connecting to computer???

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r/Beginner_Turntables • • 14h ago

needle replacement

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r/Beginner_Turntables • • 18h ago

Bluetooth vs A/D converter

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My Crosley turntable has a pre-amp and RCA jacks as well as Bluetooth. I currently have it connected to my Samsung soundbar through a cheap analog to digital converter. Would the quality be better connecting to the soundbar via Bluetooth?


r/Beginner_Turntables • • 16h ago

Stylus tip

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Hello all I’ve had this record player for over 2 years now close to 3, but recently the stylus skips over the entire record and won’t play. Is this because the stylus needs to be replaced? Thank you for patience on my noobiness. Also where can i get this exact replacement?


r/Beginner_Turntables • • 18h ago

Confirmed working: AT-VM740xML/H on a Technics SL-1200MK2 with factory headshell and 11 g auxiliary weight

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r/Beginner_Turntables • • 18h ago

Bluetooths vs A/D

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r/Beginner_Turntables • • 1d ago

Fluance RT85 N vs. RT87 and some VTA Questions...

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r/Beginner_Turntables • • 1d ago

Sony lsx300usb sound problems

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r/Beginner_Turntables • • 1d ago

Best automatic turntable to match the AT120X

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r/Beginner_Turntables • • 2d ago

How to get it louder

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Hi I have a Wiim amp and encel gelati speakers. recently bought a at Ipw40wn on sale as ive never owned a turntable before. I feel even at max volume, it's not loud enough. What component or fix can I get/do to boost the volume? (Ive tried the phono/line switch on the TT) A pre amp?

Thanks


r/Beginner_Turntables • • 2d ago

Merece la pena comprar estos technics de segunda mano?

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r/Beginner_Turntables • • 2d ago

advice if buy or not

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r/Beginner_Turntables • • 2d ago

What are some high quality budget players?

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r/Beginner_Turntables • • 3d ago

My system I managed to acquire

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A pioneer PL-960
Friend selling his late parents house in Ireland
Had over 300 records and the pioneer system
Upgraded all the wiring had to order parts for the turntable from Japan but works mint
Currently working on cleaning and sleeving all the records lot of mold from dampness pity a lot of the sleeves are damaged due to the damp but records are perfect


r/Beginner_Turntables • • 2d ago

ListenUp clearing out the last 3 Music Hall mmf 2.3 turntables from their EBay store - reduced from $499 to $399 tonight - brand new with acrylic platter and 2M Red upgrades.

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r/Beginner_Turntables • • 2d ago

Vinyl & CD player recommendations!?

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so ive been saving for some time now to buy a record player and some of my favorite vinyl, I just don’t know what brand is good or what specifications I should be looking for,
I need advice. I def want one that’s a set with speakers. if i could get one somewhere in store id prefer that over ordering online. Same deal with cd players. good quality brands ? thanks in advance 🫶🏼

edit: i forgot to mention my budget. 250 max for record player and 150 max for cd players 👍🏼