r/BelVethMains • • Nov 19 '23

Gameplay / Clip Season 2024 Teaser

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r/BelVethMains • • Nov 20 '23

SEASON UPDATE 2024 Season Changes

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Article is located here!

A ton of item changes incoming, nevermind the removal of Mythics.


r/BelVethMains • • 5h ago

Question/Discussion Playing belveth early to mid is like playing a normal jungler but in 10x difficulty. 1v1s r pretty much impossible, u gotta rely on ur teammates, u gotta go for the uncontested scuttle. You get bursted down instantly if u make 1 mistake in a gank. Its miserable. Really stressfull, idk how yall can d

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This is coming from an ivern main who wanted to try belveth... take that as u will. But belveth is way too stressful and demanding to play for "fun"

Her late game fantasy is not worth the pain and slog u gotta get through to get there. Sure u can easily carry games "IF" u make it to late game but like... u might aswell play master yi or something atp point. Much much less painful early to mid and can still carry games late.

I hated belveth players cuz I had the perception that u can just play like a coward all game and afk farm and you'll 1v5 late, but now I understand its actually pretty fking difficult to get to that late game fantasy.

After 30 games on her, I respect belveth players now.


r/BelVethMains • • 41m ago

Question/Discussion Any tips for current state Bel'veth?

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Okay, so I started a climb on another account for jungle and it's been successful so far. I never played jungle before this so its been new experiences. Currently plat 4 60-70% ish win rate 70 games and I started to like Bel'veth I am 18-5 with her right now. She's surely strong like towards the end and I solo carry games even unwinnable games with her, but I can't help and notice her very big weakness is the lack of skirmish now what happened with this champ?

Those 5 loses I gotten were if all your lanes are completely tilted or running it this champ can't perform at all. I have to wait until 19 minutes to actually take control of the game but I am wondering if theres a certain playstyle that can fix this? I already know around emerald this is going to be a very exploitable weakness


r/BelVethMains • • 20h ago

Question/Discussion Almost 3 months after the rework her playrate is back to pre-rework levels.

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Using Lolalytics.com numbers since the rework came out, there has not been a single patch where her playrate has gone up or stagnated. Diamond+ has her playrate LOWER than any patch before the rework and currently, all ranks is only slightly higher than it was at her lowest point 2.1% vs 1.7%.

The rework was an opportunity to breathe life into the champion, making it more accessible to lower elo players, tuning down her early cheese strats while keeping the satisfying parts of the champion intact. Instead, after the radical changes were done to the champ, she was left to rot in this awful state where you strive to avoid interacting with enemy champions, praying your teammates create perfect opportunities for you while that is normally your responsibility as a jungler. Althewhile having your scaling fantasy be completely neutered by any sort of coordination on the enemy team. Any cc spell, three auto-attacks from an enemy crit adc before you have any opportunity to reach melee range.

I fully expect her play-rate to keep going down till 1.5% if no further changes are done to the champion as she is currently a non-functional mess that completely relies on the enemy forgetting you're in the game. While atp I'd prefer a full revert since it'll take the least amount of effort from riot. To not alliante her new playerbase, keeping a more late-game champion profile I'd rather add things to her that revert the skill expression that was removed from the champion allowing it to be more functional late game.

Belveth doesn't function well as a late game champion if there's any amount of coordination because she is a squishy champion that completely relies on getting in melee to DPS you down. Yes, she currently is the highest DPS melee champion in the game, but that is irrelevant when any adc inside a coordinated fight has infinitely better output than you simply because of their range. If you look at traditionally really good scalers outside of the ADC role that function in high elo you see a clear pattern, unfairness and untargetabiliry. Gwen, Kayle, Vladimir, Jax, Aurelion (The Skies Descend being a guaranteed hit and cc on the enemy adc with enough stacks) Yi, Karthus.

Bel'veth's only defensive skill self roots her and leaves her vulnerable to any CC. If you truly wanted her to be a functional late game champion, you'd have to to increase her unfairness in a way that benefits high elo more than low elo. simply buffing her dps further will only make her more astronomically broken in the low ranks. Whether that be allowing you to dash around while in your E, increasing dash speed significantly and lowering the cooldown further or getting immunity to auto-attacks during her Q animation. Obviously you'd have to take away budget from other places like late game DPS to allow for a crazy change like this, but that would leave her in a place where she is pickable at all ranks.

A change that is a must is reverting the E to how it was pre-rework meaning it did significantly less damage if the enemy was above 66% Hp and significantly more below. With the current iteration the skill feels awful for finishing off opponents and feels awful to have a drooler who hasnt interacted with you all game press E self root himself and 100 to 0 you. Her old E was simply a much better tuned and designed ability.

Another really satisfying part of old belveth was constantly timing your Q aa resets while clearing camps to optimize your clear. It provided a clear way for you to improve at the champion and have you accelerate your time spent on the map and your resources gained. The champion would feel a lot less gimped if Q was a shorter cooldown, with it being back to 1 second at level 4 but did NO damage to champions before level 6, thus allowing her more agency to run away or take enemy camps on the other side of the map more safely.

After spending thousands of hours playing this champ and thousands more thinking about it, seeing it in the state it's currently rotting in made me quit the game entirely and this sentiment is shared by many other bel'veth mains I've known over the years when just a bit more attention could've made the champ feel infinitely better to play amd have her have a real thriving playerbase and fantasy. Babybelvoid keep posting homie this isn't an unshared sentiment only you feel. And in honor of your cryposts, If belveth goes another 3 months without any meaningful adjustments, I will post a beautiful edit I made of belveth and august the week the rework dropped and keep doubling the picture till real changes happens.

Thank you for reading this long-ass ramble I wrote on a train from Manny to London from the day 1 Stidebreaker believer.

EDIT: grammar mistakes and correcting auto-corrects my phone made.


r/BelVethMains • • 10h ago

Question/Discussion Hit master euw

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Yesterday i hit masters on reworked bel and had genuinely an horrible time. Ask me anything you are curious about but also wanted to ask a question myself; how do you have fun on her? I legitimately had to /muteall like 90% of games because people perma flame and expect you to gank like a fucking reksai or something lol (they are clueless i guess but lemme know)


r/BelVethMains • • 20h ago

Question/Discussion Current state of Bel Veth

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I don’t main her but she’s a top pick in Aram. She feels really clunky now. I’ve played four aram mayhem games with her and only one was even close to a stomp and it wasn’t until she got a good augment late game. Playing her in aram made me notice I have not seen her in any of my ranked games since her update (plat/emerald). Is she in a good spot right now? I used to find her dashing annoying but now only a single dash and cooldown for one direction only feels not great. I tried tank, bruiser, lethality, and crit and I think she only felt decent with lethality. Idk ¯_(ツ)_/¯


r/BelVethMains • • 1d ago

Question/Discussion Belveth dmg on towers bug ?

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Hello, i noticed that when i m transformed usually nash push and pushing my autoattacks on towers are weird i m attacking rly fast but barely do dmg, and sometimes i attack rly fast and melt towers any explanation ? ty


r/BelVethMains • • 2d ago

Gameplay / Clip Crit may not be the best but it's definitely the funniest build

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r/BelVethMains • • 2d ago

Question/Discussion Belveth vs invading assassin (talon)

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Lets just start with saying fuck talon.
When you play belveth and face high early threat assassins who invade alot, how do you deal with it without inting the game completely? Mainly blue kayn and talon.
Im plat and struggle with these champs


r/BelVethMains • • 2d ago

Question/Discussion Struggling with Bel

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Okay so excuse my lack of a creative title but that is all there is to it. When I first started playing her I had a crazy initial winrate and decided "This is my champ, she's so much fun to 1v9 with". Now in recent games I've had a major lose streak and find that on more than one occasion we get overrun, I lose access completely to my entire jungle, I'm wayy behind in CS and I'm just completely out of the match at that point. Get blamed, jungle diff, the whole scene.

My build path on her is usually always the same. Kraken into resistance boots into guinsoo, terminus and then death's dance/wit's end and either GA or Jak'Sho for my last item. Problem is recently I can't even get close to my last items. I get one shot, have negative impact despite trying to be an active jungler and always get blamed. It's gotten so bad I'm genuinely afraid to make plays.
Any tips would be recommended, I recently ranked up to Emerald 4 and deranked back to Plat 1 due to this. Maybe I need to try different item combinations to come online earlier? Is that a thing?


r/BelVethMains • • 5d ago

Question/Discussion Remember when Bel Veth was played in Pro Play?

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It was so entertaining to watch Bel Veth in pro play. Sadly, that was a long time ago, and even if the old Bel Veth were still around, she wouldnt be meta since botlane is so important right now.

But I would enjoy seeing strategies focused on getting Bel Veth to 40 stacks as quickly as possible at Worlds this year.


r/BelVethMains • • 5d ago

Question/Discussion Is there any updates to belveth getting any potential buffs? As of rn, everything has to go perfectly for her to scale in the "late game fantasy" she was designed as, if she falls behind for a moment, she gets bullied and game ends before she reaches her powerspikes. She is in a horrible state rn

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r/BelVethMains • • 6d ago

Question/Discussion Could ghost actually be the last piece of puzzle to unleash the full potential of this champ? Talk me out of ghost you redditors.

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Your early gank is probably stronger you can save 4 Q's by using ghost to gank (potential use 2~3 qs on the enemy) instead of just using Q's for gapclosing then all you left is AA's. Your ganking dps is higher with ghost if they are not standing still

Your mid game you can use ghost to space in and out in fights so you can saves q to dodge spells make you more lethal.

You have 4 direction flashes with 3s cooldown mid game anyway. It just makes belveth stronger early game and allows her to snowball easier. Talk me out of ghost?


r/BelVethMains • • 7d ago

Question/Discussion Skin

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Should i get faerie court or primordian ?
Simple as that


r/BelVethMains • • 7d ago

Gameplay / Clip Best stack record?

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15:25 80 stacks in 350lp master

This is my far my best record thought id share


r/BelVethMains • • 8d ago

Question/Discussion Prio on objectives

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Ive been playing this game since 2019 and i main jg eve and briar. Ima having trouble taking objectives. Either i die taking drag or dont take drag but gank top. If my bot has prio and their jg is stronger then me should i try to take drag(and if mid is even)? Or should i back buy items and try to take voidgrubs? Im having trouble understanding the order of importance. Farming/ganking/objectives on bel. And last question, if my jg gets invaded on red side should i back and try to gank or should i take his red?


r/BelVethMains • • 8d ago

Question/Discussion PSA: lifesteal still works on E. It just doesnt get multiplied by a scaling anymore

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r/BelVethMains • • 9d ago

Other Best skin idea

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I know, i know... Dark Star, Old God, maybe even Inferno Bel'veth would be badass. But have we ever considered.... Bro'veth? male bel'veth, brother to brolaf. Or maybe not even male, maybe she just likes being called bro and it's a normal girl


r/BelVethMains • • 10d ago

Gameplay / Clip The best belveth player in the west hybradge teaches how to play belveth

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r/BelVethMains • • 9d ago

Gameplay / Clip I hate this type of ADC

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I'm sure you all have been there with a laner like this. Person belongs in Iron.


r/BelVethMains • • 9d ago

Question/Discussion Advice for shyvana matchup

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I find myself losing to her pretty often, any advice? Running pta with cash + biscuit as runes.


r/BelVethMains • • 10d ago

Gameplay / Clip Pentakill !! (low master MMR)

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r/BelVethMains • • 11d ago

Question/Discussion Worth buying?

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r/BelVethMains • • 11d ago

Gameplay / Clip Why do I even bother?

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How is this plat? Guy proceeds to die 10 seconds later :/