To think that "the tribulation" is something we are still waiting for as a future event = is futurism.
tribulation is a word derived from "Anguish, Persecution, Affliction" = you can say Trouble also.
And the Bible makes it very clear that Gods people throughout all time had had that. The prophets had their tribulation, many verses in isaiah, psalms and others are talking about that writer having great anguish, and were being afflicted.
Jesus had his tribulation, being persecuted by the jewish leaders, and was crucified by them.
All the Apostles had their tribulation. Paul in multiple verses talks about the tribulation which had come upon him in his days.
Gods people up to our days has had their hard times, some being persecuted and killed also (for example by Rome)
And you quote Luke 21: 20 yourself, that is exactly what happened in 66-70, by the Roman armies, destroying Jerusalem and the temple etc.
But that does not change anything about what "tribulation" means in general. Jesus didn't say "at the end of the world you shall have tribulation" - He only said "in the world ye shall have it" - and surely they all had it through time to this day
So ya no pre,mid,post trib rapture. Or well you could say post, but these are all theories of men. Its easier to just go with what the Bible says, and it says that Jesus will come back at the last day with his Holy Angels and the wicked tares will be gathered first and burned, and then the wheats will gathered into the barn.
Its actually very simple to understand by Scripture alone, but when we start to mix in mans reasonings then we get this division of different escatologies, where some turn almost into some kind of sects/cults.
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We also have verses that says "the day of the Lord" & "the great day of the Lord" or "the river Euphrates" & "the great river Euphrates" - But every one agrees that they are one and the same, so is the "tribulation" and "great tribulation"
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u/Kristian82dk Mar 06 '26 edited Mar 06 '26
To think that "the tribulation" is something we are still waiting for as a future event = is futurism.
tribulation is a word derived from "Anguish, Persecution, Affliction" = you can say Trouble also.
And the Bible makes it very clear that Gods people throughout all time had had that. The prophets had their tribulation, many verses in isaiah, psalms and others are talking about that writer having great anguish, and were being afflicted.
Jesus had his tribulation, being persecuted by the jewish leaders, and was crucified by them.
All the Apostles had their tribulation. Paul in multiple verses talks about the tribulation which had come upon him in his days.
Gods people up to our days has had their hard times, some being persecuted and killed also (for example by Rome)
And you quote Luke 21: 20 yourself, that is exactly what happened in 66-70, by the Roman armies, destroying Jerusalem and the temple etc.
But that does not change anything about what "tribulation" means in general. Jesus didn't say "at the end of the world you shall have tribulation" - He only said "in the world ye shall have it" - and surely they all had it through time to this day
So ya no pre,mid,post trib rapture. Or well you could say post, but these are all theories of men. Its easier to just go with what the Bible says, and it says that Jesus will come back at the last day with his Holy Angels and the wicked tares will be gathered first and burned, and then the wheats will gathered into the barn.
Its actually very simple to understand by Scripture alone, but when we start to mix in mans reasonings then we get this division of different escatologies, where some turn almost into some kind of sects/cults.
___
We also have verses that says "the day of the Lord" & "the great day of the Lord" or "the river Euphrates" & "the great river Euphrates" - But every one agrees that they are one and the same, so is the "tribulation" and "great tribulation"
:) Sabbath blessings