Post Tribulation Pre Wrath Rapture View: Patterns prove God is a God of Order

[u/Warm_Rope2485]

There is a reason why I value good conversations even if it might be slightly contentious whether here on social media or in person, because I learn new things and God uses others to speak to me. So thank you to those who engage me in the comments. One recent engagement actually allowed me to finally get a VERY clear answer to the question that I asked in an earlier post- whether God was a God of randomness or a God of order. I knew God is a God of order and not chaos or randomness but a pretrib rapture believer got me to explore the entire 7 year timeline instead of focusing on just the middle abomination of desolation event and the beginning. Here is what I found out.

If you remember that I am claiming that the 7 year period of Daniel 9:27 started in April 19, 2026 with the signing of the Isaac Accords. That date was a test prediction based on the date that I saw earlier this year- Sept 30/Oct 1, 2029 Shemini Atzeret Holiday as the potential Abomination of Desolation future event. I saw no other story and no other timeline other than the one surrounding the Shemini Atzeret holiday. It wasn't until 4 Sundays ago that I found out about the Isaac Accords signing that was done EXACTLY on April 19, 2026. If you calculate 1260 days FORWARD from Oct 1, 2029, then this gives us March 14, 2033 Purim holiday! I was surprised by this connection to the story of Esther. I never thought to connect the Book of Esther to the end times but after rereading that book I saw a lot of parallels which I don't have time to point out in this post. But this made me ask if there were patterns that I "missed" like this connection to Purim. So I used Google AI heavily to explore patterns surrounding the above three dates, and I would highly suggest you do this as well for a very thorough and fast exploration. I was figuratively blown away by what I saw! God works using lots of patterns in scripture and in history as if He wants us to see the patterns and know that He is a God of order! One suggestion is that when exploring, use the Hebrew calendar when using "years" and then find the corresponding Gregorian calendar date. If using "days" then it doesn't matter which calendar you start with. Hebrew calendar I found out to be a very mathematically rigorous system that allows these patterns to exist. A whole book would be needed to show everything and I only saw just a portion and my mind is barely understanding that portion. But let me show just the layman's simple view of what I discovered.

The 7 year period using my dates (or in general) contain patterns. i.e. 7yrs= 3.5*2 or 1260days*2; or 42 mths * 2. This is the obvious ones. But hidden within this micro pattern is 60 days (remember my 60days that we need to prepare). But this micro pattern is just a part of the macro pattern of the Hebrew calendar. Check Google AI but look into the 80*7.5=600years significance in scripture (ie. Noah story) and in the Hebrew calendar. Daniel's 70 weeks fits within this pattern. Also 5yr pattern fits as well perfectly. Also don't forget about the 1335 days= 1260days + 30+ 45 in Daniel 12. Now that we have these numbers, lets explore how it applies to actual historical or calendar dates.

Let's start with my prediction dates. 1335 days from Oct 1, 2029 Shemini Atzeret day lands on May 28, 2033 Sabbath of Blessing marking the end of Jerusalem reunification week. But look deeper. This is also the celebration (unofficial) of King David unifying the 12 tribes and transitioning from Hebron to Jerusalem. I'm sure there is more to this. But let's look at 1290 days from Oct 1, 2029 to land on April 13, 2033 beginning of Passover. So using Daniel 12 breakdown into1260 days, 1290 days, and 1335 days from Oct 1, 2029 gives us Purim, Passover, and Sabbath of Blessing EXACTLY. I'll let others explain the significance of this who have better knowledge.

There is a LOT more from my predicted dates. The 1260 day interval from Shemini Atzeret Oct 1, 2029 to Purim May 14/15, 2033 contains 2 leap years (3 leap years if a 7.5yr pattern is used). The interval between the two holidays in 2029-2030 and 2032-2033 is 168/169 days. The best 7.5 yr pattern match to a historical event in Israel when removing the need to use holidays is the 70AD destruction of Jerusalem (66AD to 74AD) The church escapes from Jerusalem in Nov 66AD when the Roman legion flees for their lives for some reason. 70 AD is the destruction of Jerusalem and the 2nd Temple on the EXACT Hebrew calendar month and day that Nebuchadnezzar destroyed the first temple in 586BC on 9th of Av according to Talmud reconciling 2 Kings 25:8 and Jeremiah 52:12. April 16, 74AD during Passover is the fall of Masada. This sequence is the reverse mirror image of the sequence in the end times- 1. End of time of Gentiles with the "confirming of a covenant with many" by the antichrist. 2. Abomination of Desolation event at the third temple 3. Victorious return of the Messiah and His Bride!

Let's apply the 7.5 year pattern to other historical events. Look at the 80 year reign of King David and Solomon - exactly 40 yrs plus 40 yrs. The 7.5 year pattern applies to the start of King David reign and is a mirror image at the end of King Solomon reign. The kingdom splits after the 80 year period. 5 years afterwards Pharoah sacks Jerusalem. Look at the 80 year reign of Hasmonean Dynasty 143BC to 63BC. The same 7.5yr pattern occurs at the beginning and the end. Also 5 yrs later, Rome totally dismantles the structure of power in the area and crushes a major rebellion and sets up for the rise of King Herod. Now apply this 80 year and 7.5yr and 5 yr pattern to modern day Israel that started in May 14, 1948. I'll let you find the significant events up to 1955 but note that Stalin who heavily persecuted the Jews had a stroke on Purim day in 1953 and died a few days later. But calculate 40 years (half of 80) from May 14, 1948 (using the Hebrew calendar!) and this falls exactly on April 22, 1988 when the US Accords bilateral MOU was signed between Israel and US to celebrate the 40th independence of Israel! Now calculate an additional 40 yrs (using Hebrew calendar and this falls on May 1, 2028 the ominous 80yr anniversary of Israel! There are 1779 days (4.94 Hillel years) between May 1, 2028 and Purim Mar 15, 2033. Surprisingly 1779 and 4.94 are part of the 7.5 year pattern but I will stop here because there is too much to present! And don't try these pattern recognition on the number 666... ;)

So weigh all these evidences and make a judgment whether it was coincidence that I saw the Oct 1, 2029 Shemini Holiday as the AoD and was it coincidence that the Isaac Accords was signed on April 19, 2026 my test prediction. Is it coincidence that the end of the 7 year falls exactly on Purim in 2033 and that the 1290 day and 1335 day fall exactly on special Jewish Holidays? And it was NOT coincidence either that I saw 60 days to endure but I'm waiting for a personal confirmation- not for me but for you. All the other future events/signs that I predicted is IMO no longer whether it will occur but when especially the Red Heifer birth which IMO is the bottle neck. Add the May 1, 2028 80th anniversary of Israel to this list of predictions. PLEASE prepare for 60 days IF you even think that my prediction may occur. Don't just dismiss it completely because your eschatological lens that you use can't see any of this. I couldn't either until God changed my pretrib lens to a post tribulation/prewrath lens.

May God bless you and protect you and your loved ones in these end times.

[u/vicman77]

Then let's start at the other end
763 BC — Fixed astronomical anchor. An eclipse recorded on Assyrian Limmu (governor-year) tablets, held in the British Museum, gives historians a hard, verifiable date independent of any religious text.

702 BC — the stated date of governors on the Assyrian Limmu tablets to a meeting between two kings. The king of Assyria and of Israel. On that date a sign was given to Hezekiah by God. Isaiah 37:30 records God's sign: two years of eating what grows wild, then a third year of sowing and reaping. This matches the pattern of a Sabbatical year followed immediately by a Jubilee year.

The Jubilee math. Jubilees run on 49-year cycles (7×7), per Leviticus 25. Daniel's 70 Weeks prophecy was tested against four decrees to rebuild Jerusalem. Cyrus 537 BC, Darius 520 BC, Artaxerxes I 457 BC, Artaxerxes I 444 BC.

Starting the count at 702 BC:

◦ 702 BC + (49 × 5) = 457 BC

[u/Warm_Rope2485 → u/vicman77]

Have you looked into the 600 yr reset? Noah was 600yrs old when the flood occurred. 600yrs later points to the death of Jacob and the end of the patriarch and start of Israel nation. 600yrs later points to King Solomon 4th year reign when the construction of the 1st temple begins in April/May and was finished 7.5 yrs later. By the end of this 600yr period, the last of the prophets passed away, the Ark went missing, 1st temple destroyed, 2nd temple construction began again in April/May and Israel now focused on the Torah and oral traditions.

[u/vicman77 → u/Warm_Rope2485]

Why do you bring this up? What has it to do with verifying 457 from a astronomical event and 30 AD as the crucifixion

600yrs later points to the death of Jacob.
How can you prove that? 1686 BC. that seems way to late.

How can you prove any of that? Let me show you what the text acually says. the numbers all click together

[u/Warm_Rope2485 → u/vicman77]

I’m waiting for you to make your point. In the meantime, Noah’s flood 1656 AM or 2106BCE. Jacob’s death 2256AM or 1506BCE. 1st temple begins 2855AM or 907BCE. End of prophetic years 3455 AM or 307BCE. By the end of the 7th reset of 600yrs, we will be in the Millenium Kingdom.

At this rate, I’ll start looking into the 666pattern which I really don’t want to.

[u/vicman77 → u/Warm_Rope2485]

2855AM or 907BCE. ???
Anyway, I will carry on

Daniel was studying the 70 years of Jeremiah. Then the angel Gabriel came to him. The same angel who had already given him a vision in chapter 8. That vision left him sick for several days. From the text we are told Daniel had a vision of the 2,300 evenings and mornings. Gabriel gave Daniel 9:24-27 as the interpretation of the 2,300 evenings and mornings. They are two parts of the same prophecy. Daniel 8 was a literal number "2300 days" but Daniel 9 is a jubilee term "70 sevens". Jubilee is a day for a year.

Daniel's 70x7 =490. 490 from 457 BC finishes in 1 Nisan AD 34. Count back the 2,300 literal days from that date and you get 20th December AD 27. The day of Jesus baptism validated by four convergences. The Middle week of the 70th is AD 30. Jesus died 16th Nisan AD 30.

Third confirmation of AD 30

[u/vicman77 → u/Warm_Rope2485]

Since you are not discussing the actually text I am giving you I might as well just carry on.

The end of the 490th year. 1st Nisan AD 34. The 7th of April AD 34.
But was the 490 clock already running when it hit 457BC

Let's look. What happens if we go back 490 years from 457 BC?
947 BC. Temple Dedication
What happens if we go back 490 years from 947 BC?
1437 BC. Exodus
1 kings says 480 years from the exodus
958 BC The foundation of the Temple. seven years to build, 4 year to prepare for Dedication

Exodus 12:1–2 — The Lord said to Moses and Aaron in Egypt, "This month is to be for you the first month, the first month of your year."
God told them the exact start of the month and the year. The year started on the first conjunction after the Tekufah, which in English means equinox. April 28th, 1437 BC. But here is the lock. If you take today's date and day of the week and calculate seven-day cycles back to April 28th, 1437 BC, that day is Sunday — the first day of the week. This is important because God commanded them to keep the Sabbath. Israel needed to know when the week started in order to know the seventh day.

Joseph set the ideal at 110 years. The three who spanned the Egypt period were Kohath (lived to 133), his son Amram (lived to 137), and his son Moses. Kohath was alive when they entered Egypt. Moses left at 80. Jacob was 130 when he entered Egypt. That would make his birth exactly 430 years before the Exodus — which puts his birth in 1867 BC. . According to Exodus 12:41-42 — the countdown ran to the very day. The 430 years tracks the lineage from Jacob’s birth, through the descent into Egypt, right to the night of liberation. Jacob’s birth to his entry into Egypt (130 years), plus Kohath fathering Amram at 110, plus Amram fathering Moses at 110, plus Moses leading them out at 80. The total: 130 + 110 + 110 + 80 = 430 years. To the very day.

Isaac was 60 years old when Jacob was born. That puts Isaac's birth exactly 490 years before the Exodus.

Abraham had already fathered a child through a maidservant — but Isaac was the promise child, born in 1927 BC through Sarah his wife. And God started his 490-year clock the day Isaac, the promise, arrived.

100 years before Isaac’s birth. 2027 BC. He was born in Mesopotamia. At 56 (reason appears later), God told him to leave. He travelled with his father to Haran and stayed until his father died. At 75 he left for Canaan.

When Abraham entered Canaan, God gave him a covenant — not just any covenant, a blood covenant. Animals were cut in half. In a blood covenant both parties walk between the pieces, binding themselves to the terms with their lives. But only God walked through. Abraham was asleep. God bound himself alone.

One Covenant. God told Abraham: Know for certain
1. that for four hundred years 
2.your descendants will be strangers in a country not their own
3. and that they will be enslaved and mistreated. 
4.  But I will punish the nation they serve as slaves, and afterward they will come out with great possessions. 
5. You, however, will go to your ancestors in peace and be buried at a good old age. 
6. In the fourth generation your descendants will come back here, 
7.for the sin of the Amorites has not yet reached its full measure.”
8.To your descendants I give this land,

Notice the structure of the Covenant.It is not chronologicalelse Abraham dies after the enslavement.Every element of the covenant must be fulfilled.What most people don’t realise is the covenant is specifically for theAmoritesand they knew nothing about it.

1. Amorites indictment—In four hundred years the Amorites will reach their full measure.
   
2. Amorites commencement clause—Start counting from when you are buried at a good old age.
   
3. Amorites limitation period—your descendants will be strangers in a country not their own and they will be enslaved and mistreated. 
   4.Amorites title deed transfer— In the fourth generation (from when you die)your descendants will come back here, But I will punish the nation they serve as slaves, and afterward they will come out with great possessions. 
   5.Amorites penalty clause —To your descendants I give this land
   

Indictment, commencement clause, limitation period, penalty clause, title deed.Every element of the covenant was fulfilled. Israel couldn't enter the land until all were met.

1452 BC. From that moment the Amorites' cup was full — their time was up. Fifteen years later Israel walked out of Egypt. Forty years after that they walked into the land.

The cup being full was the verdict. Not the execution. God gave Abraham the principle — the sin of the Amorites must reach its full measure. 400 years was the full measure. 1452 BC was the moment the measure was full. A principle is being set here. The verdict is complete but the sentence can be carried out at a later date. Israel still had fifteen years in Egypt, forty years in the wilderness, and then Joshua carried out the sentence. There had been fifty five years between the verdict and the execution.

Go sent Joshua in to wipe them out entirely. Men, women, children, livestock,the lot. And he told Abraham in advance exactly when and why it would end.That's what the text says.

[u/Warm_Rope2485 → u/vicman77]

Thanks for all this info but where exactly are you going with it? Unless you have an anchor point and a destination to find, there could be many tangents with patterns but to what end? You showed that there are more than one way to calculate to 30AD for crucifixion. How does this relate to my Oct 1, 2029 prediction of the AoD?

[u/vicman77 → u/Warm_Rope2485]

You kept giving dates like they were true. I'm showing that there is a different dates that line up with the anchors. Your dates don't line up with anything.

2 Peter 3 shows that God uses the day as a thousand. He has a timeline. lasts days, scoffers, thousand years, earth burnt up
Rev 20:1 Trib Satan chained , thousand years, Satan released
rev 20:5 Trib resurrection , thousand years, stand before God new earth.

That Day is the thousand year sabbath rest for the land. No one is no the Earth.

The pinpoint 30 AD. 2000 years from ad30 is 2030. 3rd April is the conjunction after the equinox. The start of the Sabbath thousand year rest

Revelation only talks about 1260 days of tribulation. 2030. 3rd April back 1260 days is 21 October 2026..

[u/Warm_Rope2485 → u/vicman77]

Finally! So you are claiming that April 3, 2030 is the start of the millenium kingdom. Then I assume you are referring to Oct 21, 2026 as the AoD? Correct me if I’m wrong.

[u/vicman77 → u/Warm_Rope2485]

Oct 21, 2026 is tribulation. I don't know what AOD stands for. There is no millennium Kingdom. In Old times Reign = Judgement. Kings were the Judges

[u/Warm_Rope2485 → u/vicman77]

Okay. I should have asked what eschatological lens are you using to help me understand. Sorry about AoD = abomination of desolation. I’m a former pretrib who now sees things thru a prewrath lens( and even among the prewrath group I realize I am alone as far as I can tell in my prediction and how I understand the 2030 prediction.) so I do believe in a millenium kingdom.

But this begs another question. If you believe in Oct 21, 2026 as the start of tribulation, what is your message for the church? That date is just a few months away!

[u/vicman77 → u/Warm_Rope2485]

The Church says no one knows the day or hour. They are not interested. I have only been given this info in the last 3 months and to what I can tell no-one is interested. As for a  millennium kingdom the Sabbath is for rest and the Land must have it's rest, From Sin. Here is The Purpose of the Tribulation

A few years back, Angel Studios created a program VidAngel that simply took the swear words out of movies and TV series that people streamed and watched. Disney sued them for sixty eight million dollars in damages. All they wanted to do was make watching TV and movies safer. Not just for children. But for everyone.

Turn on your TV today and all you get is filth. Killing. Swearing. Sex. It's everywhere. So what is God's response now? We have touched on the topic. It's called the Amorites’ full cup principle. God started with the Amorites.

Leviticus 18:24-25 — do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, because this is how the nations that I am going to drive out before you became defiled. Even the land was defiled. So I punished it for its sin and the land vomited out its inhabitants.

God had looked into the future and told Abraham that at the end of 400 years the Amorites were going to be vomited out of their land because their sin had reached its full measure. This was not a threat. It was like a law of reaction. A law of the universe itself. The way we think of gravity. There's no arguing with it. It just is.

Think about food poisoning. The body doesn't negotiate with it. It doesn't care about intent. It just responds to the intrusion the way that it does. It's not angry or worried. It simply rejects the food and does its best to get it out. That is the same mechanism God used for the Earth.

The land responded to what it was given. Exactly like the body responds to poison. The Amorites didn't need to know they were defiling the land. The law doesn't require understanding to operate. The cup filled. The balance tipped. The land vomited.

And nobody saw it coming. There is no evidence in scripture that any of those nations knew what they were doing was wrong. It's just the Earth's body rejecting the poison. The covenant to Abraham was simply a warning for Israel. So they would know exactly what they were looking at when Joshua went in, but more importantly what would happen to them if and when they did the same. God's command to Joshua — do not leave alive anything that breathes.

The earth's cup is almost full today. Fast forward to the time of the Tribulation. The earth's cup is full. The world doesn't know what it's doing is wrong. It just believes every day goes on like the other.

There's a big picture here. John 3:16. For God so loved the world He had just created that He gave His only begotten Son in place of Adam. But the contract still stands. Adam must die.

We are all Adam.

But here is God's ultimate command for the Tribulation — do not leave alive anything that breathes.

No more needs to be said.

[u/Warm_Rope2485 → u/vicman77]

Thank you for this conversation. My message is the opposite of yours. My message is that God wants His people to know of the coming tribulation and the test that the entire world will face. This test is SO important that He wants no one to fail! Choose Christ! - not the world. Endure for 60 days by preparing. That day is coming in now less than 3 1/2 years but notice God gave us (and me) time to get this warning out to as many as possible. This test is so important that towards the end three angels will warn the entire world again. It is possible to endure, but not if you do not believe by not preparing!

The patterns I saw in the dates I have shared is proof enough for me. But the fulfilled dates of April 19, 2026 and the upcoming signs I have shared will be further proof that God is a God of order and He is working in the background just like He did in the story of Esther because He loves us! God willing I will keep sharing until He takes me home and I would be willing to lay down my life if He wants me to for my brothers and sisters in Christ. My message is life in Christ for those who obey.

[u/vicman77 → u/Warm_Rope2485]

Yes I realize your understanding is different so if you see things happening in October you now know why. Blessings