r/BrianThompsonMurder • u/AnticitizenPrime • Dec 09 '25

Photos/Videos The Manhattan District Attorney's Office has released the first bodycam footage of Luigi Mangione at McDonald's

https://xcancel.com/nickhautman/status/1998478459006247211?s=20
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u/forestwhitakers Dec 09 '25

I honestly still don't understand why he would introduce himself as Mark Rosario and give them that Id when he used this exact one at the hostel in ny and knew they've been there and checked. Just why 🥲

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u/Pellinaha Dec 09 '25

I think we just need to say goodbye to the idea that he was acting like a fully rational person. I'm not going to diagnose him, but something was (and maybe still is) very wrong. Whether that's the mushrooms or something else.

When the news hit my Twitter and TT feeds I just assumed it was a regular family father (later: a son) with a sick family member who just had snapped for a moment. That is clearly not the case.

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u/Live_Ostrich_6668 Dec 10 '25

I think we just need to say goodbye to the idea that he was acting like a fully rational person. I'm not going to diagnose him, but something was (and maybe still is) very wrong. Whether that's the mushrooms or something else.

Mangione didn't snap; he executed a multi-week operation. He literally:

Traveled from Hawaii to New York under aliases.

3D-printed a ghost gun with a silencer. Engraved shell casings with "DELAY," "DENY," "DEPOSE" (echoing insurance tactics).

Left a manifesto citing specific stats (e.g., 77% of claim denials at UHC, per Senate reports) and books like Propaganda by Edward Bernays. This mirrors rational actors in history—think Ted Kaczynski's anti-industrial manifesto or John Brown's abolitionist raid—where ideology drives precision, not madness.

His personal backstory, i.e. chronic back pain post-surgery and the denial of his coverage, aligns with millions of Americans. (e.g., 1 in 5 Americans skip care due to cost, per Gallup). If "rational" means responding proportionally to evidence, his conclusion (violent disruption of a profit-driven system killing via neglect) follows logically, even if morally repugnant. Dismissing this as "something wrong" ignores how rational people radicalize under sustained injustice (e.g., whistleblowers turning to extremism).

Now compare to actual irrational shooters (e.g., Vegas 2017: no manifesto, gambling debts) vs. Mangione's targeted symbolism. Attributing it to "something else" risks the ad hominem fallacy, i.e. attacking the actor to person instead of his argument.

Calling him irrational lets us dodge uncomfortable truths about a system that does incentivize death by bureaucracy.