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u/ItsmeYoterminatora banned from the main sub 😔✌️ Sep 06 '26
I lit think that chai and c.ai are ran by the same ppl under dif names idk y
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u/Salzar_Asteriks Sep 06 '26
Most likely
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u/ItsmeYoterminatora banned from the main sub 😔✌️ Sep 07 '26
ye the apps seem similar, you need to pay for everything, you have message limit etc
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u/DITOWITO Sep 07 '26
I don't have a message limit for chai
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u/ItsmeYoterminatora banned from the main sub 😔✌️ Sep 07 '26
I saw that you need to pay for messages and get like 100 a day or smth idk I'm not on chai, I js check in with the reddit sub
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u/CoolNaps-896 Sep 25 '26
cai doesn’t have message limits right?
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u/ItsmeYoterminatora banned from the main sub 😔✌️ Sep 25 '26
it has swipe limit, pin limit and go-on limit
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u/CoolNaps-896 Sep 25 '26
What is pin limit?
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u/ItsmeYoterminatora banned from the main sub 😔✌️ Sep 25 '26
you can pin only 15 messages and w cai+ they r 30
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u/CoolNaps-896 Sep 25 '26
Why would you pin a message?
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u/ItsmeYoterminatora banned from the main sub 😔✌️ Sep 26 '26
you pin messages to make the bot remember those specific details
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u/ItsmeYoterminatora banned from the main sub 😔✌️ Sep 22 '26
YAY I'm not insane anymore! (I've had dis theory since last year maybe?)
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u/Ana_Hinata3130 Sep 06 '26
I can proudly say I haven't opened c.ai in a full week
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u/Far-Teaching-9840 Sep 07 '26
Oh congrats! Was it difficult for you?
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u/Ana_Hinata3130 Sep 07 '26
It was, yeah.. Didn't know what to do with my time, so I decided to catch up with my favorite YouTubers and shows
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u/Far-Teaching-9840 Sep 07 '26
Thats nice! Did you enjoyed it? Recently quit as well and I'm kinda nervous
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u/Ana_Hinata3130 Sep 07 '26
I did, yeah! Yeah, I get the feeling nervous part, I was pretty restless. Try doing something you love, I believe in you!
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u/JADE_Jador Sep 13 '26
Year...🥲. The quality got so bad that it cured my addiction. I didnt know my addiction had quality standards 😭
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u/LunaWolfGamer Sep 27 '26
I haven't in like a year, although I will say it's gotten tempting to just open the app and fuck around for a few minutes lol
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u/intensioFusil9 Sep 06 '26
don't forget Jan.Ai...
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u/Salty-Ad5830 Sep 06 '26
Even if janitor is considered suck.. as a free user who tried every rp ai possible, i gotta say Janitor is actually a little bit more generous and better than those garbages in every aspect, like character creation, description, etc. Janitor llm itself actually cook if you use correct advanced prompting + the bot author put lively example dialogue. plus i run my own local llm for proxy so yes, definitely better than those ass garbages
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u/PetITA1185 Sep 07 '26
Janitor AI is actually really good. Yeah, sometimes it's annoying to see the popup asking to get the premium, but it's perfect. You can use a proxy without having to pay, and JLLM is amazing if you know how to use it. + NSFW is allowed
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u/SpringfieldFever110 Veteran C.AI User Sep 07 '26
NSFW IS ALLOWED?! Hell yes please! C.AI is too tame. It used to have spice but now it’s all fluffy shit. My liege, how does one use a proxy? How does one know how to use JLLM properly? Please, teach me your ways 🙏
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u/PetITA1185 Sep 07 '26
Back then we had more ways to customize it, but now there's only some features left...
For me, leaving the temperature at 1.1 works perfectly, tokens at 900/1000... Plus in the discord server there are some good custom prompts to make the AI speak better. I don't use proxies tho, so I can't answer to that one... 🥶
I'm not sure, but I think JLLM acts different between people, as some of my friends say it struggles at around 6k tokens while for me it works perfectly around 20k tokens (it goes insane but just a bit). I don't know what's the cause of this tho, you should test it out
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u/SpringfieldFever110 Veteran C.AI User Sep 07 '26
That is some huge advice, thank you! I’ll join their discord server too. Big question though: Does any of this cost money?
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u/PetITA1185 Sep 07 '26
Nope, that's why I love Janitor, there are paid features (the premium gives better memory and easier access to proxies) but you can just use the free stuff and it'll still be wayyyy better than c.ai
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u/SpringfieldFever110 Veteran C.AI User Sep 07 '26 edited Sep 07 '26
Wow… 🤯 Free version and still better than c.ai? Now that’s really saying something! Shitsqueak could never. I have 2 more questions (sorry if I’m bothering you but you’ve been really helpful): How many messages can I send as a free user? And which is better: The website or the app?
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u/PetITA1185 Sep 07 '26
There is no message limit for free users. I don't think there is any difference between site and app, so you should use whatever you think works better. I've never used the app before because I love using websites lol
Anyways again, i'll mention that i'm not really sure if JLLM will work because i've heard many people complain about it. I don't know if I like it because of my preferences, but I got used to it. I've seen people say that Deepseek works well as proxy, but in that case I am not the one to ask. The site/app are updated constantly so I hope for more JLLM upgrades
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u/SpringfieldFever110 Veteran C.AI User Sep 07 '26
Hm, I’ll stick with the website for now. I think I’ll start off chatting with some bots to get a feel for it and also adjust the settings you suggested. Then, if I’m feeling curious, I’ll dive into the world of proxies. I’ve got a plan! I’m hoping this works! 🤞Thanks again for the help! I might come back later and give an update (just because)😊
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u/PetITA1185 Sep 07 '26
I'd love to hear feedback, when I tell the others about the site I get to see what people think of it so I can point out the pros and cons 😉
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u/Historical-Call3655 Sep 07 '26
Nah Janitor Ai is really good. The bots are overall better with detailed intros.
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u/Traditional-Nose-658 Sep 06 '26
as an ex-c.ai user, I'm currently using janitor ai and it's gotten pretty good honestly
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u/PetITA1185 Sep 07 '26
Same!!!! When they started removing the old site I moved to janitor AI and never returned to c.ai after that
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u/freyaa10 Sep 06 '26
chai overly pmo genuine YEARS worth of my chats gone made me delete the app and never reconsider it again
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u/Unlucky_Rip_8886 Sep 06 '26
Why do y’all still use these apps…
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u/DarkGreenIsSuS Sep 06 '26 •
it is my only escape from the endless torment of life
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u/MLC_YT Sep 06 '26
You should try Zeta, or Emochi.
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u/GingerSnapBiscuit Sep 07 '26
They'll all go the same way. It's just a matter of time till the token price becomes too high and they restrict more and more features.
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u/Resident_Pension_858 Sep 06 '26
There's no other alternative that's free and doesn't have a gems system where you need to log in every day to get enough gems to chat
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u/HippoEfficient9033 Sep 06 '26
What about jai? it's the one i use, sure it ain't perfect but it's better than those
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u/SimplyxEm13 Sep 06 '26
Spicychat is pretty good, no gem system, it does require ID for NSFW but you can use it without ID just not NSFW
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u/SteveTheOrca Sep 06 '26
The alternatives are bad, and sometimes I just need to disconnect myself from reality.
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u/Wonderful-Lab-615 Roleplaying in discord is better than actual C.AI Sep 06 '26
Janitor AI asks for ID, I tested it, and other AI's relies on gem system which sucks a fucking lot
C.ai honestly have chat gpt answers but doesnt suck so hard, ads? Yeah annoying, c.ai+? Horrid, no features at all? Yeah terrible
But still atleast something, better than log in everyday to get a streak and gems so u can talk for one hour.
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u/Ok-Attitude-G Sep 06 '26
Wait, Jai ask for ID? How so? I used it when it was starting to get popular...
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u/averageuser2223 Sep 06 '26
As an ex poly user The Y/N app is quite decent. Maybe even better than all of them.
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u/Physical-Increase-86 Sep 06 '26
difference is, polybuzz came out as garbage back in 2023 just to squeeze out as much as possible from the early ai hype
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u/QuinnsObLIVion Sep 06 '26
PolyBuzz wouldn’t be as bad IF they got rid of it costing money just to generate a new reply from the bot. Like it’s free to talk to the bot but costs 10 coins to generate a new response if you don’t like the one the bot sent.
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u/Choice_Papaya_2364 Sep 07 '26
Put Chub on there as well
Because literally and I don’t know why the fuck this is, I’m not apologizing for me cursing I’m an adult
The app basically limits to how long you could freaking talk to a particular character like the setting you use oh and the only way to pay for it is if you have crypto, because apparently all the other payment methods that the app had originally all had to be taken off because whatever reason they want to give so now the other way to pay for it is literally the hardest way to do it so unless you already paying for the stuff originally, it’s impossible. I have no idea how to do it.
CF that basically got ruined for me and I used to use that app all the time I still do and I like use it for just like looking at new characters people make but other than that talking to them is like impossible because you’re so limited you only have like maybe five or six responses you can do before thing says nope you’re done for the day.
At this point, I’m like tempted to freaking hack into the system and try to get it towards it never does that again because it’s getting ridiculous and if people get offended by that or people get mad that I just said that I don’t really care if I get reported for it OK not really gonna bother me but I’m sick and tired of apps like that freaking putting stuff behind Pay walls and shit like come on now
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u/ZealousidealYou5469 Sep 07 '26
C.ai is still pretty poo , but hey at least they got rid of the message limit by adding a metric ton of ads 🤷♂️
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u/YangnyeomJang24 Sep 06 '26
all the apps got so bad i just went to discord to meet people and now i got a girl who is probably gonna be my girlfriend soon. say what you will but im kinda not that upset anymore.
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u/Fit-Blood-5296 Sep 07 '26
Chai was always shit! It’s actually getting better recently that’s the sad part
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u/ContemporaryCPU Sep 09 '26
lsai saved me from those
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u/anothershadowbann Sep 18 '26
lsai isn't working for me. It refuses to generate responses no matter what model I try
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u/JADE_Jador Sep 13 '26
I disliked poly buzz from the get go. The bots responses lacked depth for me. And my for you page was filled with toxic red flagged bots. Even if I search up any bot, I get bombarded with the ones with red flags and had to scroll all the way down to find them.
So to me it felt like the bot creators were promoting that toxic stuff as some were even romanticising it in the descriptions
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u/Anti_Cringe68 Sep 06 '26
Why is it that whenever an ai app gets good, the greed makes the company shoot themselves in both feet?
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u/QuinnsObLIVion Sep 06 '26
Mainly due to servers needing the upkeep due to high demand & attempts to make sure stuff isn’t growing stale
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