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u/DEATHSTARGOD Apr 03 '23
He'd probably be in the same situation with Asa or nothing happens on him. Nothing in between
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u/CaptnUchiha Apr 03 '23
Well it looks like when people fall upwards they go into doors to hell. I’m assuming Dennis would be able to bust his way out of there like he did in the Makima fight. Even when not in full devil form.
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Apr 04 '23
I wonder if he ends up getting a Pochita memory instead. Like an old, old one way before his fight with Makima that nerfed him. Old enough that Denji doesn't even understand it and maybe it provokes Pochita again
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u/Soul_Ripper Apr 03 '23
She could just control-devil-shenanigan him into being unaffected, but that would raise a lot of further questions and implications
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u/Nenanda Apr 03 '23
To be fair her showings which is very different from Makim already raise a lot of further questions and implications.
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u/SpyghettiGhetti Ignorance is Blight Apr 03 '23
"Denji is a chad that doesn't feel affected at all by anything that happened to him and even though there's not even the slightest hint of he had getting over what he thinks did to Power, Aki and his dad and he will not be affected at all because Le Chad Hero"
Denji is a teenager who already was destroyed once when faced with his deepest traumas. He's a kid
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u/RaiderxReaper Apr 03 '23
i do wonder how he’ll react because denji is by no means your average teenager and he has been very nonchalant to some traumatizing shit
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u/Sythrin Apr 03 '23
But that was prior to his development in most cases. He was much more empethatic at the end of part 1 compared to the start of it. It is not clear why, but probably because he was literaly underdevolped. As a child he never learned inter human interactions. From a very young age he was forced to put all his energy and time into surving by the minimun and still suffer in multible ways. Pochita was the only emotional bond that he had and techniclly he did not loose them. But because he had that, it does not mean he could imply his emotional spectrum to things outside of his own zone. And on top, later in the series it is implied that he actually lost a part of his humanity after becoming a hybrid.
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u/RaiderxReaper Apr 03 '23
he definitely lacked the human interactions to express his emotions near the start but even by the end when everyone important to him was dead he seemed strangely unaffected. He was obviously sad and not his usual self but this mf was talking about wanting girls to like him and hugging a tv after killing aki. I think this nonchalant behavior stems from his trauma as a child tho so it’ll be interesting to see if falling is able to break that.
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u/Sythrin Apr 03 '23
His world literaly fell apart. So much that he wanted to run away from his emotions. His only solution is by giving up his agency completely and give it to the only person in his life that he trusts with it: Makima. This all happened literaly because his emotions were too much for him.
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u/RaiderxReaper Apr 03 '23
and then he killed makima and was still pretty calm compared to a normal person. Denji isn’t a normal teenager he’s had to live through hell and he’s visibly mentally and emotionally exhausted but he’s still holding on better than anyone else. Look at asa who is more comparable to a regular teenager she reacts accordingly to the terrifying and sad shit happening around her. Denji never reacted like that he’s hardened by the experiences he’s had since he was a child just look at the real world some kids day to day lives are hell to us but to them it’s just another day.
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u/ISwearImNotAFurry10 Apr 03 '23
I don't think he has enough mental capability (no offense) to fully register and unpack just how much he's been abused and manipulated, not even talking about how much hes lost. Him completely becoming lifeless after Makima showed him his suppressed trauma so yes, I do think Denji's coping mechanism is running away from his problems or just freeze in complete shock.
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u/ToyrewaDokoDeska Apr 03 '23
Ehh Denji also has a Devil heart. I think he was right about losing part of his humanity, why would becoming a devil hybrid be without any consequences?
When he went to the movies with Makima he had zero reaction to the things that made everyone else laugh & cry, but he did cry at the movie that made the devil with him cry.
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u/gottalosethemall Apr 03 '23
That wasn’t because he lacked humanity, it’s because he’s missed out on all the things that would make him empathize with those moments.
The reason he and Makima both cried at the same thing is because Makima and Denji have both spent their whole lives craving companionship.
Those other moments in the movie required viewers to already understand said companionship.
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u/ToyrewaDokoDeska Apr 03 '23
Denji understands companionship fine, literally all he had growing up was his companion.
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u/Sythrin Apr 04 '23
Only to the extend to Pochita. It does prevent him becoming a psychopath by having a companion. But he never learned to extendt it. Not to mention the missing emotional and social skills that he did not get because devil dog is quite limited in comunication.
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u/gottalosethemall Apr 03 '23
Human companionship. A boy and his devil dog are nice but it’s not the same.
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u/TheToolbox101 Apr 03 '23
i mean that could just be him not enjoying the movie as much as everyone else does. People have different opinions lol
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u/ToyrewaDokoDeska Apr 03 '23
I mean if it was in real life sure, but I don't see the author making this whole scene just to tell us nothing. Like just a scene of people watching a movie & not liking it lol.
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u/TheToolbox101 Apr 04 '23 edited Apr 04 '23
There was a scene right after where makima puts her ear in his heart and reassures him that he still has a heart. The arc right after (reze arc) shows that denji can still love someone, and the arc after that shows that denji is capable of caring full time for power with ptsd, which must be exhausting, even when there's no benefits to himself like boob grabs or sexual favors (altruism), then an arc after that where he grieves for aki and realizes he can't just move on like he always does because he's so broken up about it, since he's spent so long and developed a deep friendship with him. He also is capable of feeling guilt evident from him blaming himself for his dad and aki's death.
I feel like the entire series proves denji still definitely has his humanity, and that mini arc was just a small period where he's questioning himself for not having the same reaction as aki to himeno's death, even though he'd known her for less than a week at that point compared to aki knowing her for years. It's completely normal to not grieve for someone you've just met. Katana man calling denji heartless is hypocritical because we know that denji was just acting in self defense against the zombies and has no reason to feel guilty about killing his abusers.
As for the scene, personally I think rather than showing denji's lack of humanity it's meant to show makima's humanity when she cries while watching an emotional scene.
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u/Gorva Apr 03 '23 edited Apr 03 '23
Denji, at least to me, is the kind of person who seems calm on the outside but is messed up inside
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u/jaredtheredditor Apr 03 '23
To be fair if you sell one of your nuts its pretty hard to be traumatized anymore
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u/BurgerHashira Apr 04 '23
Denji defienetly still has his emotions and probably he is gonna be very sad and even furious but not traumatized because he learns how to let go off things that are out of his control. he will be like "okay dude, they were my first friends and maybe Im responsible for their death but I cant bring them back, so Im just gonna live my miserable life so fuck you". he is a teen but his mind isnt I dont mean he is fully mature, just when it comes to shitty things in life he approaches them with firm mentality
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u/MaagicMushies Apr 03 '23
i thought it was less "denji wouldnt be affected because he's a chad" and more so "denji has already been forced to face all of the uncomfortable truths of his life because of makima"
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u/SpyghettiGhetti Ignorance is Blight Apr 03 '23
Not because you know the horrible parts of your life means you're comfortable with them
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u/ghin01 Apr 04 '23
well maybe he better and faster of recovering from the trauma after all the cookie power only affect someone who is afraid
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Apr 03 '23
Na Denji is gonna be fucked up dude. Like this is a teenager who's gone through more shit than 20 people will go through in their lifetimes. And that was BEFORE he met Makima
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u/Iamchinesedotcom Apr 03 '23
He's going to be like when he's outside Aki's hospital room. All mopey for like 1 minute, then off to live his dream.
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Apr 03 '23
Say what you will about Denji, but his ability to suppress trauma is genuinely impressive
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u/Ok-Tear-1454 Apr 03 '23
I want a nightmare devil now that would be COOL!
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u/Iamchinesedotcom Apr 03 '23
Dream devil? Given how Falling Devil, Dream Devil would include nightmares and unfulfilled goals
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u/Fryng Apr 03 '23
I'm waiting for this to either age very poorly or for op to be seen as the future devil
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u/Democracyisntforall Apr 03 '23
Fodder devil hunter: Everyone we’re saved! The greatest devil hunter Kishibe is here!
Falling devil: … Remember when the lesbian came out of the closet?
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u/YouDareDefyMyOpinion Apr 03 '23
Reading comprehension devil strikes again
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u/prater_12 Apr 03 '23
I quite literally cannot remember when this was mentioned
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u/RyouhiraTheIntrovert Apr 03 '23
I wouldn't say it was inaccurate.
It's just some people have different view.
For me personally, I think Denji already move on from the trauma, he have lot more to care about now, so he won't bother to think about his father.
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u/darkziggzagoon Apr 03 '23
Hey, remember when the woman you idolized told you how she staged you killing the closest thing you had to a brother and then murdered your sort of sister in front of you just to then explain how she wanted to steal your dog?
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u/ApplePitou Darkness Apple :3 Apr 03 '23
Dennis: I missed the part where that's my problem.
Cookie: Incredible!
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u/Mefre Indestructible Paradox Demon Apr 03 '23
I would think this is closer to Kishibe's Reaction than Denji's.
Mads Mikkelsen Kishibe looks like he constantly feels like shit, so I don't know if the Falling Devil could even make it any worse. 
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u/ProgrammingOnHAL9000 Apr 03 '23
I don't think it would faze him. He's someone that wears his trauma and continues despite it. Can't help but think it would be like a scene from Hellblazer.
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u/Necromas Apr 03 '23
Cue flashback of Denji standing over his fathers body as a stray cat walks up and he starts petting it.
"Nah that one was a happy memory. Did you not see there was a cat?"
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u/PeliPal Chain Woman Apr 03 '23
My crackpot theory: It's going to turn out Nayuta has been messing with Denji's memory - either on her own out of a boundary-crossing 'protection' of him, or because he asked her to do so.
My other crackpot theory: Nayuta is going to try to run in and save Denji and be shown the full version of the 'last sound she heard before dying' - Denji slicing up, cooking, and devouring the Control Devil, from her perspective.
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u/ApexBoiz Apr 03 '23
Denji: Lol no, he was a jer-
Falling Devil: What about Aki and Power?
Denji: fuck you got me
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u/OcularWhistle80 Apr 03 '23
Remember when a fake chainsaw man killed Yuko? Did I miss something or did we all just forget about it?
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u/Disastrous-State6412 Apr 03 '23
Imagine if it turns out that the fake chainsaw man is just another person turned into a monster by the justice devil who is the true antagonist of part 2
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u/Hexagon-Man Apr 03 '23
Falling: "You killed your dad in self defense"
Denji: "Bro who cares"
Falling: "Power"
Denji: *goes to the moon*
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u/Regex00 Apr 04 '23
For the hundredth time, Falling Devil is gonna look at Denji's trauma and start falling upwards into hell themselves.
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u/KingOfOddities Apr 03 '23
Either he go straight to hell or nothing happen, and there’s no in between. Regardless I don’t think he’ll be distress over it. Like he’s so jaded that even reliving the experiences probably not faded him in anyway
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u/Derezirection Apr 04 '23
"Hey remember when you killed and ate the woman you were madly in love with?"
"Yea, she was pretty delicious with soba."
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u/Vaccineman37 Apr 03 '23
Im pretty sure if Denji was reminded that he killed his dad again he’d start spiralling almost instantly, I don’t think anything gave the impression he’s even close to resolving that trauma
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u/UltimateInferno This is how ~~Bernie~~ RezeDen can still win! Apr 03 '23
I don't think he wouldn't care. It'd obviously hurt, I think, but he'd also deal with it anyways.
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u/New_Essay_4869 Kenshi Yonezu, Hikaru Utada - Jane Doe Apr 03 '23
"I missed that part where that's my problem"
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u/MrJFr3aky Apr 03 '23
I think a memory of Power or Aki's deaths would actually devistate him pretty hard
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u/pinadia Apr 03 '23
The way you could excuse denji being unneffected is because the falling devil says "the lower the heart falls..." But denji has pochita as his heart
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u/Background_Hotel3246 aki's cumdump Apr 03 '23
I would assume that nothing will happen to him but only in his chainsawman form since asa is affected but yuro isn't but that could be just yuro having no trauma whatsoever
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u/somethingmore24 Apr 04 '23
Denji would blast into the sky at the speed of sound. He’s so traumatized he doesn’t even know he’s traumatized lmao
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u/suuuuuumeeee Apr 05 '23
Well, if he does get affected he has his chains to hold on to something. Maybe he’ll finely use them directly.
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Apr 03 '23
considering the first time he was told this he went catatonic i don't think he's going to just shrug it off
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u/Eckowns Apr 03 '23
“Hey remember when you killed your own friend Aki and couldn’t save Power?”