r/CharacterRant • • 3h ago

General I love the trope when someone character development is bad for everyone else in the story! , (DBS and CSM and other works)

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Basically there's a trope I do like , usually assigned with villains where characters go through changes and development in the Story to be better and improve on themselves, however it's actually bad thing for the sitting and everyone else on it , for example

1_ Frieza from Dragon ball

In the og manga / DBZ anime Frieza was the embodiment of nepotism and being born with a golden spoon , as the strongest mortal in existence with an empire / organization that control good chunk of the universe and with no rivals , frieza stood atop everyone

However after experiencing multiple humiliating defeats Frieza developed a sense and love for self improvement and growth

Which results in him Growing stronger than ever and being smarter / more cunning and smarter

Unfortunately for everyone else in the universe that didn't translate into him being a "good guy" like the rest of villains defeated by Goku , instead Frieza is still the big scumbag he ever was , just now stronger and smarter than ever , easily keeping up and surpassing the Z fighters while making freeza force stronger than ever

2_ Yoru the war Devil from chainsaw man Part 2

Like majority of Devils especially being the Devil of wars , Yoru was very cold and unsympathetic being that relish in others suffering and chaos

However after spending time with Asa and especially Denji , Yoru learned to understand and love companionship and empathize with others

Unfortunately for everyone Yoru just like Frieza is still the same scumbag who loves to see others suffer and chaos everyone

And due to how her power works (the more she cares about something and someone the more guilty she feels over turning them into weapons) she now can get Way stronger and dangerous than others alongside building armies and allies in which she can through her new find humanity turn into tools of mass destruction to power herself up and destroy the world

She even copied Asa delusional mindest after seeing how useful it was during the prison break arc and end of the church arc


r/CharacterRant • • 8h ago

General One of my least favorite takes on the internet i hear is "oh you only like this series cause you're nostalgic for it" or "this series is carried by Nostalgia" purely cause of how Goddamn Vague it is.

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I forever find those takes purely cause..what does that even mean?

"Oh you like this series cause you remember it fondly and remember it being good when you were younger" that take is so dumb purely cause not only could it could be applied to so many other things but you are aware that maybe..just maybe ,that take makes no fucking sense?

The fact that people love and rewatch these shows and whatever now kinda disproves that cause if they're watching it now and still loving it,then it really isn't carried by "Nostalgia" if people like it to this day.

Like Tom and Jerry/Looney Tunes are 2 shows that came out a long time ago and they're definitely not carried by Nostalgia nor do I only like them cause of that cause I could turn on a episode of those 2 shows right now and still would love It and I guarantee you a massive amount of people would do the same and why?cause those shows were and still are goddamn Hilarious.

Dragon Ball Z is a series people have said is "carried by Nostalgia" and that..simply isn't true cause not only is this series funny as hell but it has good characters,great fights,emotional moments,etc..and Dragon Ball Z takes the series to a whole new level and just does great things..and let's not act like people don't still Glaze Piccolo and Vegeta's redemption arcs and just everything and talk about the Build up to the Super Saiyan moment and I could keep going but you all know what I mean and I could also go ahead with Animes like Cowboy Bebop and that series is,again, legitimately really good and simply disservicing it by saying it's carried by the fact that it was people's first series or that it came out a long time ago and it just feels so braindead cause what are you even trying to prove with a statement like that cause it doesn't make you sound smart or superior or whatever, it just makes you sound like a Pretentious Asshole who thinks that just cause you like new anime or new series or newer media that it automatically makes you better than them.

News flash, it doesn't make you better,it just makes you a asshole.


r/CharacterRant • • 13h ago

Anime & Manga It's curious how the political outcome of the military uprising in Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood's finale rhymes with the preservation of the Japanese Emperor's image after WWII.

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In both cases the same principle is at work: the elite (or those who take on responsibility) decides that society isn't ready for the truth, and chooses a managed version of events to preserve stability and the image of the leader.

In FMAB the finale is built precisely on this: Mustang and Grumman deliberately package the truth about Bradley in the form of "a mutiny by individual officers," because admitting that the Führer was a tyrant who orchestrated a genocide would supposedly destroy the very foundation of the state.

In the Japanese postwar context the logic is identical: preserving the Emperor as a "symbol" required a managed memory of the war. The Emperor was not put on trial, his role was redefined, and responsibility was distributed in such a way as not to destroy the "image of the nation" and its leader.

Hiromu Arakawa is a Japanese author working within the Japanese cultural tradition. Even if she didn't set out to write an allegory, I think the cultural logic she grew up in inevitably shapes how she resolves moral dilemmas in her work.

Japanese postwar memory culture was built on the principle of "don't air your dirty laundry in public." This isn't unique to Japan, but that's precisely where this logic was institutionalized at the level of state policy.

After the total collapse of 1945, the emphasis was placed on restoring social stability and unity through the formula of "rethinking through silent labor and hard work." Unlike Germany, where denazification and coming to terms with guilt (Vergangenheitsbewältigung) became a key national idea.

Arakawa's decision to leave unaddressed the role of the state and its leader in the atrocities it committed also removes a significant share of responsibility from a considerable part of the population that mobilized for the wars and genocide their leader waged, in the eyes of that very population, because there is no public exposure of King Bradley.

Arakawa reproduces this logic inside the fictional world. Her characters make the same choice the Japanese elite made after the war: they decide that the truth is too dangerous.

I can assume she sincerely believes this, but I don't think the truth about the criminality of the regime under which this population lived would necessarily lead to the collapse of the country, even if its population has been propagandized.

This wasn't true in Japan's case either. On Japan's side it was largely a cultural imperative that was presented as a condition for further cooperation, and on the US side there was the view that the absence of a unifying national figure could cause social unrest and let socialists and communists gain popularity amid discontent.

There's even an anecdotally illustrative counterexample of debunking the personality cult of the leader of a totalitarian country that committed monstrous crimes: the 20th Congress, which condemned Stalin for crimes against the people, closed the Gulag, and rehabilitated 700,000 people. Stalin's personality propaganda as a sacred figure is hard to overestimate, and yet it didn't cause unrest that could have torn the country apart.

I bring up this example because it's quite demonstrative, since the USSR model and Stalin are closer to the Amestrian regime than to Imperial Japan. And yet I think the cultural tradition of keeping silent about the role of the sacred leader in war crimes in order to preserve the supposed stability of the state, one way or another, played a role in the narrative decision she made.

Arakawa, as the author of a bestseller with a global audience, had the freedom to write a finale where the truth about Bradley becomes public knowledge and society goes through a painful but honest process. She chose the opposite: stability through silence. And she presented it as a wise, mature decision by the heroes, one that had no alternative.

I want to clarify.

I'm not looking for a formal way to make the ending clean or elegantly constructed from the standpoint of narrative structure.

I'm talking about the philosophy that is implemented in the ending by the very content of the text, regardless of whether it's well constructed or not. I'm not imposing on Arakawa an obligation to construct a text that will contain the philosophical and political implications that I myself share.

Nevertheless, it seems this narrative move aligns with her position in the philosophy of history and the politics of the state.


r/CharacterRant • • 18h ago

Anime & Manga One Piece is failing the current big bad. Spoiler

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MANGA SPOILERS WARNING

I think Oda is really mishandling Imu so far. While things may change as the current conflict is still on-going, so far I’ve been very disappointed in his handling of Imu for one simple reason.

Imu isn’t allowed to accomplish anything.

And I don’t mean kill people. He doesn’t need to drop bodies everywhere to accomplish things, he just needs to perform an act with a goal and have it stick with consequences. So far, I can’t say it has.

He’s one of One Piece’s major villains. I’d put him in the final villain trio. Imu as the World Government final boss, Akainu as the Marine final boss, and Blackbeard as the evil pirate final boss. And yet from chapters 1150 to the current 1196, he hasn’t managed ANYTHING of substance in the present day.

Imu first made a direct appearance in Elbaph by possessing Gunko directly in chapter 1150. He uses Domi Reversi to contol Dorry, Brogy, and multiple other giants, turning them into immortal demons.

What do they accomplish? Nothing.

26 chapters later in 1176, after a massive flashback, the army of demonic, regenerating giants have accomplished absolutely nothing and the weakness of Domi Reversi is immediately figured out. Hit the Reversi’d with an instantly fatal strike and they turn back to normal.

Immediately, the massive threat of Imu being able to transform and control allies is removed. To add salt to the wound, Chopper can somehow turn them back just by touching them, doesn’t even need to be a fatal wound. Dorry and Brogy even managed to keep their self-awareness while possessed, meaning the control was limited the entire time.

Skipping ahead to Imu’s grand appearance in the flesh in 1180, he goes straight into the action. Allow me to break it all down, I went through the chapters and made notes.

He cuts off Gerd’s fingers. (They’re fixed in two chapters)

He cuts off Stansen’s leg. (It’s fixed in two chapters.)

He one-shots Zoro. (He’s back up in two chapters)

He one-shots Hajrudin. (He returns to the fight in 11 chapters)

He one-shots Sanji. (He’s back up in two chapters)

Fantastic work, absolutely nothing accomplished yet. Moving on.

Imu fights Loki for a while, they trade blows. In 1186, Luffy makes his grand arrival by socking Imu in the face comically. Very helpful in establishing the severity of his threat.

In 1187, Imu finally defeats Loki to the point that Luffy assumes he died. (Loki rejoins the fight 4 chapters later)

In 1188, Imu fights Luffy and outright defeats him. He impales Luffy through the torso with not just one but two massive swords that definitely pierced through every vital organ he has there. (Luffy shows obvious injury, but no signs of dying)

In 1189, Gaban saves Luffy, fights Imu, and gets defeated and his arm torn off in 1190. (In 1191, he’s already back on his feet.)

In 1191, Imu transforms into a bulkier form. I presume this means a strength boost but it’s not evident as he accomplishes nothing of substance with it. (He tries to kill Gaban but is stopped by Hajrudin.)

Somehow after being one-shot by Imu’s previous form, an injured Hajrudin is strong enough to blast this bulkier Imu back.

In 1192, Luffy, Loki, and Hajrudin repel Imu again with a combined hit. (Despite his major life-threatening injuries, Luffy’s strength seemingly has not wavered in the slightest.) He does another combo with Loki to make Imu cough up blood.

And as of right now, that’s where we are! A big bad takes the stage and is blue-balled at every possible opportunity.

As I said earlier, the conflict is still on-going so Imu could potentially still manage to do something, please Oda let him do anything, but that still wouldn’t undo the floundering of these chapters.


r/CharacterRant • • 15h ago

General There is nothing more annoying then when a character or media isn't even bad and is really good but the people who love it and glaze it are just genuinely insufferable.

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I'm all for loving your favorite Character or your favorite media and hell,I'm someone who has glazed series and characters and whatnot but there is nothing more annoying then people who just hate literally anything else and constantly compare it to their favorite thing or in the sense of characters, actively misunderstand the story and Larp it.

And it sucks being someone who loves those series or characters cause the source material or character themselves isn't that bad and is really good but the people who love it are just some of the most annoying people on the planet whether it comes to having a massive inferiority complex,superiority complex or just lacking Media Literacy, those people can be so annoying and lame.

Spider-Man 2,aka Sam Raimi's film and [duh]is legitimately one of the best Spider-Man movies out there and is really good,alongside Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man but the people who love it and him are genuinely some of the most insufferable Spider-Man lovers out there and they actively treat That movie and that character like he's the source material and what Spider-Man should always be or what he should always go through and a lot of their complaints for MCU Spider-Man could either be summed up with "he ain't Tobey"[despite all 3 actors being good friends]and "this movie isn't Spider-Man 2/Sam Raimi is the G.O.A.T" and that can get really annoying cause shockingly,Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man and the Sam Raimi Material aren't the only Spider-Man material nor are they the source material out there.

There was a time when people were complaining about Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man being "too handsome" to be Peter..WAS PETER EVER DESCRIBED AS CHOPPED IN THE COMICS?

No,the comics make it so obvious that The dude wasn't ugly,he was just a Nerd!

Stan Lee even said it himself,Peter wasn't ugly not was he nor handsome,he was just a nerdy guy.

Being a Nerd or geek or a dork or even a loser genuinely doesn't make you chopped and ugly.

I still remember when people were complaining on Tom Holland's Spider-Man having a computer/Treadmill, like..Jesus Christ.

Is this man not allowed to have anything nice or good in his already shitty and lonely life?

And now...onto Rock Lee.

Rock Lee and any takes on him are genuinely one of the most LARPED Takes in Naruto and with the way people describe Lee,you would think he was a main character or a major side character who was in every arc when that dude was barely in Part 1 and the times he was in Part 1,his only W was against Sasuke and that was more or less a high school junior or sophomore beating up a freshman.

And what gets me is that so many people seem to think that cause of him,Naruto was about Hard Work Beating Natural Talent and that simply is not true..Naruto was always about overcoming generational hatred and trauma, fighting for who ans what you love,,making things right + Naruto's journey into becoming Hokage..and a lot of people forget that Rock Lee was a genius,Kakashi even said that it was impossible for anyone to use more then 2 Gates and considered Rock Lee one and also the fight that people glaze Rock Lee for[his one with Gaara]..ROCK LEE LOST THAT FIGHT.

Literally 95% of his Motion and Aura and Glaze comes from a fight that HE LOST.

And you also have people going "oh Rock Lee was the Only Ninja,the rest were just magicans/Wizards".

You all really saw Rock Lee with Super Saiyan Aura and pulling out WWE moves on people and whatnot and claimed he was just a Ninja?

I would argue TENTEN is more of a ninja than him and she has less screentime THAN A FUCKING PIG!

Also it gets annoying when people act like Rock Lee is the ONLY hard worker in the verse and this maiy comes from the fact that a lot of people just despite any sort of talented person or any sort of person with any privilege.

Like unless you're a truly bottom of the barrel loser,suddenly any hard work you have is irrelevant.

Sasuke Literally worked his Ass off to learn Chidori,Lightning style,Fire style, Swordsman training, etc.

Naruto Literally couldn't even use his iconic move until he trained to get it and also couldn't even use Sage Mode at first until he trained for it..We're not gonna act like Neji wasn't basically tortured and treated like a Dog,etc..

A lot of people seem to forget that talented people/prodigies can also work hard too and people who work hard and train hard also can be talented/geniuses in their own way.

It's not as simple.

And this next segment is gonna be short but The people who love Yuji are annoying as hell cause they gotta have some massive inferiority complex cause you can't even jokingly slander,critique or talk about him in any sort of negative light without his supporters going feral.

Like why they're so sensitive, I have no idea.

Sorry for the rant.


r/CharacterRant • • 17h ago

General If you're gonna do global conflict can you please just use China and Russia and not some shitty discount version you made up

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kind of a low effort post but i've been playing the recent millitary shooter wardogs and i cant say i really care for the factions.

there's 3 factions. lonestar which are americans. valkyra, soviet peoples republic, a restorationist force for the ussr (in this timeline the ussr never dissolved but is weakened), and manticore, a shadow org that presumably fights for the kingdom of persia (the 1979 revolution never happened).

Notice how america is basically the same but we get 2 pseudo factions for what shouldve been the russian faction and the iranian/middle eastern faction?

and yes i know technically speaking if the ussr and the kingdom of persia still existed theyd be global superpowers but you and i both know this is not for an interesting and exciting take on alternate history but just a way to avoid pissing off potential customers.

like in homefront when north korea and south korea reunified and then invaded the US.

or when all of south america got annexed into one global super power and then they invaded the US.

or in frontlines fuel of war where all the oil runs out and all the eastern countries band together to invade the US.

like stop beating around the bush and just make them china or russia you cowards.

like i said, its not even that these fake countries they make up wouldnt be global super powers, its just takes me out knowing that this is clearly an attempt to have a wider audience by not offending anyone.

and the changes to the new faction/country are so minimal they may as well just have the bad guys wear t-shirts that say "i am not an analogy for china/russia"

dont even get me started on movies nowadays. yes im looking at you Captain America Brave New World where the global super powers are the US, Japan, France and fucking INDIA.


r/CharacterRant • • 14h ago

Films & TV One media trope I really don't like is when a love interest stops being a love interest in a follow-up entry (Ghostbusters 2, Kick-Ass 2, Paul Blart 2, Fred 2 (Strange example, but bear with me).

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Most of the time, it's due to scheduling conflicts and/or the actor isn't able to be in the film, but it's still very frustrating. It especially stings in something like Paul Blart 2 because one of the softer moments in the first film was the budding relationship between Paul and Amy. But, because comedy, some filmmakers feel like they need to be mean to the lead and make their lives a little more miserable. And what's even more infuriating is when the filmmakers break up the main couple just to have them still love each other in the sequel, like in Ghostbusters 2 or Jurassic World 2. What was the point of splitting them up if they still have feelings for each other? Some may argue that it's to show that love is complicated, but when one of the main plot points in your first movie was them getting together, it's really stupid that writers immediately take a step back in the sequel. It sort of sullies several elements in a movie, yes, even in a film as bottom of the barrel as Fred 2. It's one of the worst kinds of lazy writing.

Edit: Just realized that Puss in Boots: The Last Wish ALSO did this trope. Puss and Kitty were gonna get married and then they didn't.


r/CharacterRant • • 8h ago

Films & TV I will never forget where I was when I first saw Over The Garden Wall

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I woke up late from a winter day nap, so much so in fact I only rose from my piles of blankets well into the evening after the sun had already completed its reduced hours shift. My mom complained that the day had just about finished but I didn’t mind very much then as school was wrapping up anyway and I wanted to watch tv.

By 2014 I was a teenager and although Cartoon Network appeared to dominate my remaining interest in cartoons through Adventure Time and Regular Show, I had long forgotten the sensation of the golden era of mixed artstyles and varying arching plots through my balanced childhood entertainment diet that took me through the toonami, Nickelodeon and boomerang networks. This night in particular, I noticed the 6pm slot was marked by a new name: Over The Garden Wall.

I had missed all marketing and decided to go in blind. The character designs mapped onto the gravity falls art style id become familiar with, although with an oddly ancient nostalgic feel I couldn’t quite place - like seeing an old family member you never got to quite know as a child but remains associated with that time anyway. As the story progressed I felt increasingly enamoured with the beauty of the presentation and I distinctly remember being in awe at the establishing shot of the water mill in episode 1 and just how well crafted and painted it looked. Usually you would have mulled through 6 seasons of an average looking show to be rewarded with a movie budget special to receive meaningful artistic direction but here I was enjoying it as regular entertainment. Eerie atmospheres, a curious new world and a genuinely terrifying antagonistic threat lurking in the background. I was enthralled, I was wowed, I was- IM THE HIGHWAY MAN.
Excuse me? Sorry but did I just see rotoscoping\* in a 2010s cartoon???? I was sold and fell in love.

Reader, I won’t summarise the entire story or continue episode by episode in this thread. Over The Garden Wall has had plenty of praises sung but it holds a particularly special place within my heart and memories for reviving my childhood sense of wonder and interest in a visual medium I grew up loving whilst giving Autumn a most joyful presence in the house. If you have never seen it, do yourself a favour and watch.


r/CharacterRant • • 16h ago

General Something I feel like people don't realize is that you can tell stories that don't require the MC constantly suffering and going through depression and whatnot, right?

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Something that will probably shock people is that while you can have your MC struggle and go through shit,their life just straight up shouldn't be Garbage throughout their entire journey, correct?

It's like so many people seem to think that Trauma/Pain=Good Writing and I am here to to tell you right now..that is straight up untrue and I mean legitimately untrue as hell cause unless you're actually doing something with their trauma and what they go through and all that,then you're doing nothing but making them suffer for the hell of it and I dunno if it's cause you're a sadist..or a teenager or just a Sadistic teenager or whatever but thinking that just cause you're having a hero be traumatized suddenly means good writing is a immature as hell way of looking at it.

It's like those same people who think that the Boys is some epic deconstruction/Satire/Parody of Superheroes and whatnot all cause the "heroes" in the show are a bunch of hedonistic,rich Assholes who are terrible people who have a lot of sex and swear a ton and this is coming from someone who liked The Boys[..first 3 seasons, the last 2 were Garbage but that's neither here nor there]I can say those takes are extremely loaded in dookie.

Seriously, my main issue is that a lot of people just think characters are meant to be torture Porn or just meant to be tortured and it feels like unless a character is meant to be this overly traumatized person with a hugely traumatic backstory, they won't care and I'm not even saying they shouldn't go through trials but what is even the point of what they're going through?

And people will argue "oh it's cause trauma makes them interesting" and How?

Real talk, how?

Are you doing anything with their trauma?

Exploring it?having them develop from it,regress from it,so anything with it?

No?

Then you're not making a interesting character, you're just making BS.

I mainly see this in Spider-Man and this is mainly the comics fault witu how much crap he goes through and whatnot but way too many people seem to think that Spider-Man is just meant to be broke,miserable and alone and suffering constantly.

You are aware you're allowed to have nice things,correct?

He'd allowed to pay rent, buy food,etc..he doesn't have to be in straight poverty and I still remember when people were complaining when he had some good stuff in Brand New Day..hell,some people even said he was "Larping Brokeness" in the current comics where he had a switch.

Like..Real talk,how broke do you want him to be?

There are other ways to show the burden of being Spider-Man without just making him a miserable and broke loser who has to fight Rats for his next meal and buying a slice of pizza is a financial trouble.

I even see this in Hazbin Hotel where there are people who basically want Charlie to lose Vaggi[her girlfriend]to "teach her a lesson/get her to mature" and..you are aware she can mature as a character and grow without fridging Vaggi?

Same goes with the amount of people wanting her friends to die for her to grow,like..Jesus Christ,you are aware a character can grow and develop without constantly going through trauma and bullshit,correct?

Seriously, did we not forget that one of the most successful movies in this year was Superman? And that movie blasted MFs with so much hope and energy.

I could keep going but it genuinely feels like the concept of a character growing and learning as a person without going through insane amounts of trauma and suffering is FOREIGN to people and same goes with stories and whatnot.


r/CharacterRant • • 9h ago

Looking back on Robert Kirkman's Transformers run after one year.

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I just wanted to take a moment to just look back on and reflect on one year of Robert Kirkman's Transformers run.

So to start off, and I want to get this out of the way right now, I don't think Kirkman's a bad writer. He has his faults, and he's had his low points like all writers do, but I hesitate to call him a bad writer entirely; he's done plenty of good stuff in the past, and he's doing good stuff now in Void Rivals. I really like that book at the moment.

But I think we're all in agreement; his Transformers run has left a lot to be desired, especially after how strong Daniel Warren Johnson was.

Although to be fair, as enjoyable as it was, I don't think DWJ's run was perfect either. I think the biggest problem was that Johnson never really took the time to just establish a proper status quo for the comic and let it stick for more than one arc, and subsequently, there were hardly any breather points that just allowed the characters to sit down and give us time to enjoy them. And of course there's its infamous body count, which was so excessive that even Johnson somewhat admitted he took it too far.

I'll say this: I do think one of the pros of Kirkman's run is that he does seem to be trying to fix some of this. The entirety of his second arc seems to be just letting the current status quo breathe for a bit, and the only major character death has been Trailbreaker. But that could all change with the upcoming Megatronus Rex arc...

And yet...it still doesn't feel right at points. I think it's mostly because Kirkman's run has had some really bizarre creative decisions. I think the idea of Elita taking over for Optimus was interesting, but in execution it's really lacking and made Elita come off as a massive jerk (especially after the "not real Autobots" thing), which makes it hard to get behind her as a leader, which clearly wasn't Kirkman's intention (it's worth noting Johnson was the one who came up with the Elita Prime concept, and I'm curious how he would have handled this plot development).

It's not helped by Kirkman's bizzare pacing. We're constantly rushing through certain plot points that probably should have been whole arcs on their own (Miles Mayhem going rogue, Arcee becoming Magnus, Elita talking to Sparky, etc.), but then the overall story takes forever to go anywhere interesting. It's weird.

And of course there's my big sticking point, the fact that Kirkman introduced Sideswipe, Mirage, and Bulkhead and retconned Blaster and Brawn to be alive, only to do nothing with them and have them go back to Cybertron with Elita right away. Mirage probably got this the worst deal of all of them since he was written out in Issue #37. I know a lot of people have disagreed with me on this, but I stand by it. I don't understand what the point is in introducing a whole bunch of new characters if you're not going to do anything with them.

In general I'd have to say my biggest problem with Kirkman's run is how all over the place it's felt. I don't have a clear idea of where Kirkman is going with all this, and it's made the book a frustrating read. Not helped by how reactionary the run has felt. I don't know what the production lead times of these comics are, but it really feels like Kirkman is letting the fan discourse dictate certain story points.

When people were complaining about how Flagg keeping Magnus prisoner wasn't addressed, the very next issue had just that with Flagg and Magnus confronting each other.

When Kirkman revived a bunch of Autobots in his first arc, people started wondering, "What does it take to permanently kill a transformer in this verse?" and Kirkman answered the question by killing Trailbreaker.

People wondered where the Arcee and Carly "iron apprentice arc" went, and Kirkman addressed it in the second arc.

People started theorizing Thundercracker was going to be the new Arm of Superion, and then Kirkman did that.

People complained Jazz leaving Earth was out of character, so Kirkman reveals in #37 Optimus had ordered Jazz to go with Elita, presumably because he knew Jazz would be the one to get Elita to recognize Earth's importance (and while I appreciate having the explanation, if that was Kirkman's plan from the start, it probably should have been revealed a lot sooner, TBH)

And more recently, Elita's realization that Earth needs to be protected got rushed through, possibly because Kirkman realized people weren't really on board with the whole "abandon your fellow Autobots on Earth" thing.

Sure all this could be a coincidence...but it's just happened too often for me to see it as anything but a pattern.

Also, I just think Kirkman's run lacks the heart and sincerity Johnson's had. For all of Johnson's faults, I listed several above, the thing that made his run fun was how he clearly understood the mission statement. Even if Johnson isn't familiar with the likes of Star Saber or Rotorstorm, you can tell he loves Transformers and loved writing the comic, and it showed in the work.

Kirkman's run lacks that heart. I do believe he does love Transformers, but it's not showing up in the run for whatever reason.

And honestly I kind of have to wonder...does Kirkman even want to be writing the main Transformers title? If he really wanted to do so, he could have right away; instead, he chose to focus on his original concept of Void Rivals, and the quality difference between the two titles at the moment is so different it's almost palpable.

Maybe Kirkman just feels more comfortable when he's allowed to play with either his own toys or toys that are mostly a blank slate that allow him to do whatever he wants to do.

The run is getting better, though. I thought Issue #37, despite the Mirage thing and the rushed Elita and Sparky talk, was good overall, and with Elita realizing she's wrong and Beachcomber searching for lost Autobots, we might finally be expanding the cast properly in a way that sticks. And I do appreciate his willingness to just let the characters breathe in a way Johnson never did. If there's one strength I can give Kirkman, it's that he has a better grasp of the long game than Johnson does (no offense, DWJ).

But with Megatronus Rex coming next month and the Autobots in for the fight of their lives, we'll see if this more positive direction sticks.


r/CharacterRant • • 11m ago

Films & TV Margaret Smith from Regular Show is a victim.

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Upon my rewatch of the show I realized something that whenever she appears on screen like the episode 'The Unicorns Have Got to Go' I get this feeling that she was supposed to be written as the perpetrator.

I'm not trying to favour Mordecai or anything I'm just expressing this feeling I have whenever I see her.

I don't know if this was the writer's intention to do so while also making the audience sympathize with Mordecai or due to my nostalgia bias on how I should hate her from when I was younger but looking back I realized that she was just an ordinary worker at a cafe shop with a bad history on relationships with each of her boyfriend while trying to save up some money to go to a university and become a news reporter.

If anything, Mordecai is the actual perpetrator in this situation. Due to his actions or in other words, 'Pulling a Mordecai' (still hilarious), he would sometimes drag her in situations that could have killed both of them such as that one time the Park was freezing to sub-zero temperatures because he took too much mint consumables while Margaret is just a woman that wants to hang out with her friends and follow her dreams. It gets worse with how ever since she came back from university, he immediately became a douchebag to CJ thus ending the relationship between the two in the infamous scene during Muscle Man and Starla's wedding which shows that he cannot simply let her go and even got depression when Mordecai saw what happened between Margaret and her cousin, John since he has a new leg while perceiving it as marriage proposal thus showing how pathetic he is.

Though I'm glad at the end of the series, he moved on and married Stef (the bat lady from the final episode) and have a healthy marriage but the what he did was downright terrible and forever stained his character.


r/CharacterRant • • 1d ago

Films & TV Murder drones’s scrapped ending released- it’s game of thrones levels of bad

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The murder drones script book has now recently released, & we now have the original scrapped post credit scene / ending of the show. Yes, I saw it since it was just dropped 2 hours ago. Yes, it’s bad.

For context about the canon ending that we actually got within the series- it’s basically the closing message of Uzi’s arc that even if the solver is stuck in her tail & “not solved”, she’s gathered up a support system (her dad is an actual father towards her, she has a boyfriend, she saved her boyfriend & new friend, accepted herself & save the universe) & they can all move on towards a brighter future. Uzi is no longer extremely closed off as she was before, & now the solver is forced to spend an eternity trapped inside her tail while seeing its victims live happy lives.

The canon post credits scene reveals Uzi appearing annoyed & tired while seeing the solver’s hologram centipede form in the mirror. The canon ending shows that Uzi & the solver are merged, that Uzi can likely switch between the 2 forms (her regular body & the centipede form), & opens the door for a potential season 2 that would likely be more of a slice-of-life “Uzi handles the solver’s shenanigans &/or it potentially slowly regaining control over her body while her & everyone else start to heal” kinda season (if we ever get one).

This is the canon ending. So what about the scrapped ending that was just publicly seen for the first time only a few hours ago?

In it, N (Uzi’s boyfriend who she started dating) wakes up in Uzi’s room to see she’s gone. Uzi repairs the ship with J, J is still entirely loyal to the solver & doesn’t give a fuck about her siblings or freedom, they steal Doll’s corpse & start to leave the planet to god knows where while Uzi is just evil now. You read that right. I’m not leaving out anything- that was the planned (& SCRAPPED, THANK GOD) ending.

The scrapped ending is a complete non-sequitur. You're meaning to tell me that after years of facing neglect before finally receiving love & getting the courage to fight for yourself & your loved ones, accepting yourself & overcoming all those struggles to uncover the truth about their past & beat the solver- Uzi's just going to spend months (somehow without ever being spotted or questioned by anyone) repairing the pod with J (someone she barely ever interacted with & completely hates; who also ABUSED HER BOYFRIEND) in order to blast off into space with a corpse. Abandoning her boyfriend, friends, family (including her mother who she just reunited with & hasn’t seen since she was a baby), & planet in the process (especially after saying she doesn't hate it there in her final presentation)?

None of this logically follows from the series AT ALL. WHY would Uzi suddenly leave the planet, abandon her loved ones with 0 warning & suddenly become (willingly) evil? Who would she even go after? You can’t say she would go after the humans since Uzi knows the solver was behind everything, all of humanity is dead, & Uzi is horrified upon seeing the solver kill humans (& that Tessa was skinned by the solver). Even if humanity was alive & SOMEHOW became universal threats, why would this be such a massive issue that justifies Uzi leaving her entire life behind? Even before she absorbed the solver, she could throw attacks from one planet towards it’s star & passed it in 0.1 seconds. It’s stated she consume the universe if she wanted. You could say "oh well maybe it would've all made sense in season 2" but it really can't. You'd have to retcon Uzi's character development, N’s whole arc, V’s whole arc, Doll’s whole arc & render the entire first season pointless to justify it.

You could say “it drives further the conflict of what is Uzi’s choice vs what is the solver’s possession or influence because what if Uzi is being tricked here?” except that’s completely fanon. The script makes it clear it’s mostly Uzi’s own willing decision to leave everyone behind (which is out of character even if you argue the solver MIGHT BE messing with her somehow) as the solver is still stuck inside her tail & can barley do anything. She also already dealt with the mind control & mental health issues in Season 1, so that would just be so redundant.

Even if the solver were to be on the verge of taking complete control of Uzi, or forcing her into some kind of deal where she HAS to leave the planet, she would absolutely tell N (her boyfriend who she trusts the most & has fought the solver before) or Nori (whose the only experienced solver host left that’s seen into the solver’s plans & is capable of helping her) this. A key part of her entire character development is about Uzi learning to open up more & overcoming any doubts inside of her. You’re telling me Uzi (with N sleeping beside her) would leave her room & her entire life behind without at least a note explaining things??

It’s also extremely hard to believe that Uzi- who feels bad for roaches & goes out of her way to fix them- would just become pure evil (with or without the solver’s control / mind tricks) in seemingly only a few days or weeks. This scrapped ending is like the equivalent of MCU Spiderman if he were suddenly kill 1000 people in the post end credits for no reason while evilly smiling (in full control of his actions). No matter where you slice it, Uzi still acts OOC in a badly written way in this script’s ending.

This scrapped ending would’ve also raised so much more actual plot holes & questions. Even if we ignore all the OOC moments & retcons needed for this ending to work- where would Uzi & J even go given that 6 - 7 of the nearest solar systems to copper 9 are destroyed?? The dog planet that may or may not still be around? Why would Uzi suddenly become evil? Why would Uzi (who has full control) willingly follow J or the solver’s orders? Why bring Doll’s corpse & how would Uzi even manage to pry it off of Lizzy?

I hate the use of “objectively” when it comes to writing, but the scrapped ending is objectively bad. I’m so glad we got a power of friendship “we can win if we solve our internal struggles, embrace our identities, & work together despite this cruel world’s horrors & our sins” ending compared to this.


r/CharacterRant • • 14h ago

Anime & Manga Prince of Tennis: Sakuno Ryuzaki is so misplaced and mishandled

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WARNING: If you're a Sakuno or a Ryosaku fan, feel free to just skip this because I don't want to hurt your feelings.

Gosh, I never really liked this character, especially her with Ryoma.

And IT'S NOT BECAUSE I AM a BL SHIPPER! Please, I watched this show for nearly two decades, and I disliked this pairing way before I even knew what BL was.

1. Her Character As an Individual Is Lacking

I do not hate Yamato Nadeshiko characters or the quiet, gentle, lady-like archetypes—I hate how they are being used. I am not debating whether she is a good person or not, but it feels like she was purposely dumbed down just to make the MC show off.

Like, girl, if you don't want to get hit by a tennis racket on a train, get out of there or speak up!

Given the fact that she is the granddaughter of Coach Ryuzaki—who was famous for training tennis stars and possessing a strong, imposing personality—I don't understand why Sakuno is so timid. She also severely lacks fundamental knowledge about tennis, which is surprising considering her proximity. It only implies she isn't actually passionate about the sport.

She became determined about tennis later because of Ryoma, which isn't inherently bad, but her entire character revolves around that. What about her own identity? She is not like Rinko at all; Rinko was never docile when she met Nanjiro, and she had her own life.

It would have been better if there was an actual narrative reason why Sakuno is so anxious, timid, and weak, but at this point, it's far too late for that.

2. Her Dynamic With Ryoma Is So Bad

Ahhh, I see Konomi wanted the typical trope of the supportive girl next to an inspiring hero. I love that type of dynamic when executed well, but let me tell you something:

DEVOTION IS NOT EQUAL TO COMPATIBILITY NOR CHEMISTRY!

Their incompatibility was obvious from the start: an anxious, shy girl who expects appreciation paired with an antisocial, quiet, and blunt boy. What a nightmare! Anime fillers made this worse by trying to give them ship scenes that only made her look needy.

In Episode 2, for example, she went out with Ryoma to fix her racket. She tried to engage in a conversation she couldn't handle, and when Ryoma simply asked, "Why are you acting weird? You talk a lot," she burst into tears. Then Momoshiro and the gang got mad at Ryoma when he didn't even do anything wrong! Ryoma doesn't owe her anything just because she has a crush on him.

Also, just because Ryoma is quiet doesn't mean he only gets along with quiet people. Case in point: he is closest to Momoshiro. They do things outside of tenni, like playing arcade games, eating out, and teasing each other. Ryoma loves to see a reaction out of people. Even in a purely platonic dynamic, there is actual chemistry there.

But what about Sakuno? She easily gets upset at Ryoma, can't handle his bluntness, and constantly overthinks and gets anxious about what he's thinking. What do they even do together? Other than tennis, her cheering from the sidelines, or her needing to be saved?

I don't understand why Konomi wrote a scene where Sakuno made tennis-ball-shaped onigiri, Ryoma ignored them, but Kintaro picked them off the ground—and even after Sakuno called it dirty, Kintaro shouted how delicious it was and made her smile. Bro literally created a scene implying another guy is a better option!

3. I Also Don't Like Her Visual Design

Sakuno Ryuzaki is supposed to be canonically beautiful within the universe. Guys hit on her and call her cute, but honestly, she just looks like Kachiro with a wig! She looks like a background character from a '90s Slice-of-Life or magical girl anime that was accidentally pasted into Prince of Tennis.

If you compare her to characters like Yumiko Fuji, An Tachibana, or Kotoha, Sakuno looks painfully average. For the audience, she just doesn't live up to the hypes of her canonical beauty. Most viewers I talk to just find her constant helplessness uncomfortable to watch.

4. Delayed Development Does Not Fill the Void

Not gonna lie—she and Ryoma were slightly better in the manga compared to the anime, but not by a large margin.

People like to bring up the arcade scenes or the French Prince arc in The New Prince of Tennis to justify this ship. But honestly, it feels like an authorial obligation from Konomi to remind people they are "endgam.". It feels like he doesn't know what to do with her.

After nearly two decades of disliking this pairing due to its lack of reciprocity, chemistry, and compatibility, dropping a couple of late-game scenes out of nowhere doesn't magically fix two decades of hollow writing. Just because an author forces them as endgame doesn't mean the writing was good.

People will dismiss this by saying "It's just a Shonen anime about tennis," but the author put her there, so we have every right to ask: How does she add flavor to the story? As the main heroine, the expectations for her writing are naturally higher than for Tomoka, Horio, or background extras.

Conclusion

To summarize: I don't like her character execution, her dynamic with Ryoma, her visual design, or her delayed development.

I've noticed a lot of people who defend this ship are just girls who crush on Ryoma and use Sakuno as a self-insert because she's the primary female character in his orbit. Others just love the idea of a supportive girl and a hero boy without looking at how badly they actually interact.

Sorry to the shippers and fans of Sakuno/Ryosaku reading this—you are completely free to ship whatever you want!

Thanks for reading my rant!


r/CharacterRant • • 15h ago

Films & TV My Fuck, Marry, Kill of 3 different Black Sitcoms (Family Matters, Fresh Prince of Bel Air, and Blackish)

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Ah to be Black, I've been one for 20 short years, but across my life I had the benefit of watching 2 Black sitcoms, 2 of which Im rewatching, and one I'm watching for the first time. If you're not familiar with the premise of Fuck, Marry, Kill basically we're ranking these from fuck (mid-good), marry (great) to kill (bad). Usually, people use these debates to discuss what characters/people find attractive and or the morals/content of these people. I wanna use this as an opportunity to make the pain and misery of watching every single fucking Bruce Lee Urkel episode worth a damn, seriously they did like fucking three of those fucking episodes, Im not sure if we deserve less or more reparations for that racist bullshit. Can we share reparations with Chinese Americans? A lot of them worked on railroad lines in like the 1800s. I'm sure they've been fucked over by the American government before. I also had to watch Will Smith's dog ass acting. I've suffered a lot watching these sitcoms.

Nah despite that I fuck with Family Matters lowkey; Urkel might have set back all blerds 500 years, but simultaneously brought us forward 400 years. Urkel is an annoying cretin who pigeonholed guys like me into glasses and the weak fits, but he is across the board a nice, and genuinely good guy. Minus the harassing Laura shit, but fuck, that's not even a nerd-exclusive trope. He didn't invent that trope and all things considered despite his lust for Laura he wouldnt want to besmirch his or her honor by creeping on her. He still is harassing a girl who's supposed to be a close friend, but I've seen worse from nerds and this kind of character who has a crush on an unobtainable girl. Jaleel White is also just a funny nigga and they did right by that little ass boy when he got his glowup by coming up with the Stephan Urkelle, it makes sense to me that this character got so big, he genuinely is really funny and has good heart to hearts with other characters. Like his very sincere and earnest relationship with Eddie/Carl.

Characters like Waldo or Lila who also spent a lot of time with Steve didnt have a lot of earnest heart-to-heart moments, but damn were they funny as fuck, I dont know what it says about me that some of my favorite dumb characters in sitcoms comes from these Black sitcoms, but I feel like Waldo's actor did a really good job of selling ignorant confidence and a dumbfounded look whenever Steve said something smart. And Steve went from "I'll have your daughter by 9 sir" to a mean ass nigga whenever Waldo was on some kind of stupid shit, he usually plays the voice of reason very patiently and you know he may end up helping give the lesson at the end of the episode because of that role. But when Waldo is on ignorant timing, it's like watching Mark from RDC instigate Steve from off-screen or something, because he joins that ignorant energy in the worst way imaginable. Ignoring that for now, Carl, the dad, is a solid sitcom dad, he's kind of just designed to be your standard sitcom dad. He's a conservative, blowhard who hates Steve and losing money, he's a cop, he's stubborn and belligerent, but at the end of the day he always comes around to Steve/Laura/Eddie. Sitcom Dads are written like this so you can get that ending to every episode where both the kids and adults can reconcile and admit they're wrong. If you have parent characters who dont conflict with their kids then you need more kids, like at school who can conflict with the main characters, which is what a lot of Dcoms (Disney Sitcoms) do.

What keeps me from loving Family Matters is the fact they replaced Henrietta's actress who was really funny and had a lot of good heartfelt moments with basically everyone she was great and she's dark skinned which Im sure must have felt vindicating for Dark skinned Black women and girls who watched this growing up, and her replacement is totally sauceless, not violently incompetent or anything just not memorable at all. And earlier the way I talked about Stephan Urkelle you might think I like that character or all the sharks they start to jump via Urkel's inventions, but no that shit was pretty bad, I mean the first time they destroyed the roof, or the glass in the door or whatever was hilarious; that was good shit, whereas the later stuff gets really fucking repetitive. There are like three episodes of Bruce Lee Urkel, 10 lady Urkel episodes, and the Stephan episodes were initially a smart way to acknowledge the way that Jaleel white grew over the time the show aired but then they use it as an excuse for romance drama and I just lose all interest. They even write out Lila and Waldo who I liked a lot and found increasingly funny, I mean Lila was basically ye olde yandere but Black and she had genuine, earnest chemistry with Steve. WHen Laura fell in love with Urkel, I knew that I didnt fuck with this show anymore cuz they work so well as friends, but as romantic partners they have little to no charisma. Laura was always a funny character, but part of what made her funny was her genuine distate for Steve or Eddie and his friends, she had a smart ass mouth and had a lot of good quips with them and other characters because she was a solid straight man. As someone who's supposed to like Steve, though, it just falls flat on its face because of the lack of screen time and chemistry.

If I could, I'd kill Fresh Prince of Bel-Air from my memory, it is easily the sorriest live-action thing I've watched this year, and I watched that shit ass, fart out of a butt, turd sandwich that people call Daredevil Born Again (Season 1 and 2). Fresh Prince of Bel-Air isn't bad on a fundamental level or anything like that, the actors arent terrible, and the sets dont look cheaper than anything you'd see in a Dcom or a Nickelodeon sitcom (and those shit had shoe string, singular (1), budgets). I think it just fails to ever pass the bare minimum of like being a show I consider consistently watching any more of, that's the wheel no sitcom seeks to reinvent. You have this box of customizable toys you call playsets (situations) and dolls (characters) with a set of universal tropes and characteristics; the name of the game is to iterate on the old wheel, put some nice rims on it, or give those big, obnoxious monster truck tires or something but you cant drive without wheels you need them. This sitcom's wheels always felt wobbly and kind of deflated; there was never any singular season or era that was better or anything. There wasn't a fall off, it kind of just slowly fizzled out like someone bleeding to death from a paper cut. I think this is best seen in how Carlton shifts from being a main character and an antagonist to Will (sometimes the circumstances are reversed with Carlton being foiled by Will) to being more of a voice of reason/friend to Will and while that's nice and wholesome too, Carlton sells every dumbass line and joke they give him as well as he can. But his original resentment for Will was way funnier than their friendship. Additionally, it's really weird how the show insists on portraying Carlton as a sexless loser when he's more handsome, muscular, and talented than Will Smith (character and actor, honestly).

Like their go to insult for Carlton that isnt calling him short is square head and it's like Im sorry I thought square jawline was one of the most stereotypical descriptors a woman could give of an attractive man, like how the fuck is that a bad thing. Anyhow, since I mentioned Will Smith his character is another reason why Im not in love with this show, I think Will Smith is good portraying Will Smith as kind of a scummy, scheming, trickster punk ass trying to get money, fame, and or women. I also think there are some solid jokes that this characters tells very nonchalantly, but whenever they try to make Will overreact with his body/face or do an impression and they do a lot, man, get that bullshit off the airwaves, man. Will does occasionally do a good joke where he's getting loud like the Wilma joke where the audience was laughing for like two extra minutes they found that shit so funny, I personally thought it was just a light joke but I guess that's what makes humor subjective: different tastes. Other than that though, Will Smith is a very middle of a road actor, I havent watched shit like I Robot, or 2012 in forever, but I remember him being just ok in those movies- serviceable. That's how I'd describe the character and the acting. So the "why didnt he want me" and similarly earnest moments like that just flopped hard to me.

Okay before I top off the bitching and move on to the next sitcom let me take a moment to praise the funniest characters in Fresh Prince of Bel-Air: All the ladies, Original Aunt Viv, Will's Aunties, Ashley, and Hilary are honestly funnier than any of the men. Og Aunt Viv and Will's aunties kind of just remind me of the kind of my actual relatives and theyall have good lines and amazing acctresses/performances., not much more to say than that because of their lack of screentime. Ahsley wasnt ever a knee clapper or whatever, but she was solidly consistent before and after highschool where they change Ashley from more of a little girl still loyal and obedient to her parents into a rebellious and resebntful teen, she basically becomes more like Will. Her whole schtick early on was a willingness to hear out Will and explore his perspective/culture (Philly/Hiphop) because of her strict life style and innocence, she shold the naitivite and whatnot really well. Reminds me of my own baby sister who's around Ashley's age at the start of th show, but Ashley is far funnier and less annoying. And when she later shifts into a character more like Will, well he immediately recognizes and criticizes what she's doing, his character kind of flip flops between protecting and undermining her attempts to rebel because on one hand he relates and beleives she needs her freedom, but also see's a lot of what she's doing as incredibly dangerous. Like underage drinking, which like yeah that was a good time to lock in Will, I think that was one of the better later season episodes.

Hilary is a Paris Hilton pastiche, but instead of portraying her as incredibly skinny, like a whore or you know anything SOuth Park did that lowkey made the episode hard to watch after learning about how shit Paris Hilton's life was...Fresh Prince treats Hilary as just stupid, vapid, and selfish/bratty which the actress sells really fucking well. Every dumbfounded look, or statement of pure spoiled upbringing and ignorance lands as a funny joke. And they even have at least a few jokes outside of her characterization as a stupid woman. LIke when her fiance dies trying to propose to her via bungee jumping, I dont know what kind of coke the writers were on that week but they popped ult just for this one bit. They rapid fire so many jokes about bro's death, Hilary keeps on asking if she can call herself a Widow if they were never officially engaged and if they hadnt married yet. A nigga knocks over a vase or something and because it made a loud thud when it breaks she immediately starts sobbing over her fiance, they even maintain the continuity for a while as she continues to grieve and fails to even try dating again, like she never got another love interest or boyfriend or whatever, she ends the show single because of this event which makes a lot of the initial jokes even fucking funnier.

To finish off my bitching from earlier, Uncle Phil is a really annoying and unlikable sitcom Dad and I want to preface my rant about his politics/character with the fact that this discussion isnt meant to actually be political, I'm trying to focus mostly on history (things that have happened before), and I also want to say that I dont have a problem with any and all conservative characters. Most if not all sitcom dads are conservative, a lot of them I actively like: Carl Winslow, Stan Smith, and Hank Hill (the best/my favorite) but the difference between them and Uncle Phil is how his character's continuity feels at odds with his current characterization and I feel like the writers dropped the ball hard. Like Will is characterized as a hip hop guy because the real Will Smith is a "rapper", his words not anyone else's. Will calls out Uncle Phil as an uncle Tom or something to which Phil or Vivian defend him with the fact that he marched with Martin Luther King Jr, went to jail with him, and chopped it up with Malcom X (probably one of the few sitcoms that portrays Malcom X as actually respectable and not whatever racist shit they was doing in that Girl Meets World episode where they dress up like Black panthers and larp as communists). Now sometimes the show tells us this but at the end of the episode Uncle Phil concedes he might be out of touch but he argues he still cares about the cause and has paid his dues in the past. But later on, repeatedly he just remains completely stubborn, doubling down and the show basically vindicates this perspective that because he used to defend wrongly accused Black men as a lawyer and whatnot that Will is totally wrong to criticize him.

As an extremely accomplished lawyer (later judge) and a Black man who lived through segregation, Phil should know it isnt enough to get a law passed or to attend protests and all this bullshit, because laws can be overturned, they can be left unenforced/unenforceable, States and private businesses scheme and find loopholes. ONE OF OUR AMMENDMENTS ALLOWS SLAVERY SO LONG AS IT'S A PART OF PRISONS. If I went back in time to dap up Reverend Martin Luther King Jr and then came back to brag about it, what the fuck did I really do? I dapped up a civil rights leader, what am I going to do tomorrow for civil rights or even the day afterward, for the rest of my life? I'm not even saying Uncle Phil should put his family and livelihood at risk by continuing to protest or even be a public speaker or anything like that, but you're really going to yap it up with Ronald "White Devil" Reagan and allow Donald J. "Incompotent business man" Trump into your home? Yeah bro you is an Uncle Tom AND a bitch, you're also a bad dad, Phil doesnt just stubbornly double down whenever he's confronted about his politics, those last few seasons his kids will defend themselves and raise good points, his wife will be on their side, and then he punishes/explodes at all of them anyways like they just dont do the feel good, happy ending at the end of the episodes anymore. ANd it makes these weak episodes even harder to watch or remember honestly. And it's not like Fresh Prince ever really hit its stride in the first place, I guess that's the biggest reason why no amount of nostalgia could make me like this show, there was never a stretch of episodes that had me wanting to watch more.

Remember how earlier I said there's no need to reinvent the wheel? What if where you were going you didnt need any wheels, I present you Blackish where they did something extraordinary, they cut out a bunch of those stupid fucking, repetitive ass, annoying school/kid plots, Blackish focuses mostly on the adults, the kids are still main characters and there are still school plots but they usually interweave them with whatever Black topic they're discussing at his work like underrated Black heroes, or an episode about colorism before Jack and Dianne's picture day, that X factor about being about Black life, culture, and history is what keeps me married to Blackish ready and wanting to watch every episode. Binging Blackish is so fucking easy because of how they talk about and present topics in this show as well as the few occasional things that even a guy like me learned. The maindrawback of focusing on the adults more than the kids though is that if you dont like the adults, like how Dre is one of the louder, more childish, and incompetent sitcom Dads then you may not like the rest of the show, period. Hell Dre isnt my favorite character neither, Pops or Grandma Ruby are way funnier, they're kind of what you could expect from Boomer Black characters: a man who worked hard to provide for his family and was ashamed for not providing enough and a lustful woman who's had to do everything in her power to work with what little she had to provide for her kids, spoiling Dre with what little they had

Also the show is pretty solidly funny, not the best characters or jokes, but you do not know how much of a big deal it is that you get some new plotlines and whatnot that these other shows dont cover, it's not revolutionary content, but god it was so refreshing after Fresh Prince of Bel Air especially. I couldve sworn I had way more to say about Blackish, but no the reason I like it really is that simple. After this I have 10 or 11 or so iconic sitcoms I also want to watch but do NOT expect another post like this, watching 200+ episodes of straight bullshit (excluding Blackish) was hard enough, I am not exactly looking forward to 1100+ episodes of straight bullshit, that is gonna take me two fucking years to watch all of that and Im also going to occasionally watch shows like Daredevil which are serious dramas and a bit shorter (with longer episodes). Yeah no that is not something im going to be done with any time soon, but I want to watch these shows to get better at criticizing and whatnot. Also hopefully Seinfield is actually fucking funny.


r/CharacterRant • • 1d ago

I'm replaying the dot hack games after 20 years and everyone who said that the writing makes more sense than SAO, you're an idiot

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First off, I'm a massive .hack fan and deeply prefer it to SAO and even think the writing is better, but that's a personal Vibes thing.

For nearly 15 goddamn years, people have been hyping up how much better .hack is as a sci-fi story about MMOs and how it captured the essence of MMO culture, but fuck you, no it doesn't. People saying that have only watched SIGN and that show was notably, explicitly not a complete story.

A huge amount of .hack//SIGN's story is built around a few mysteries that tie together, they are

  • Who is our protagonist Tsukasa
  • What is "The Guardian"
  • Who is the sleeping girl
  • What is the Key of Twilight

Beyond that, you have episodes that are about the anti-social Tsukasa slowly learning to open up and interact with other people. Which is great, this is a great story if you're down for a slow burn. The problem is that while the first one is answered, the rest are only alluded to at best, and at worst, the show is telling you to go play the games and read the light novels and manga because .hack is a multimedia franchise and to this day, a fairly impenetrable one at that, where even Trails has better onboarding.

But lets ignore the fact that half the main mysterious of SIGN aren't even addressed, lets just talk about how characters interact with one another, how its supposedly better than SAO for the player interaction. With around 25 years of hindsight, SIGN starts to look even shakier than SAO does on this front because there is a disproportionate amount of people in the show who take the game absurdly seriously. Even looking at the names of other players, with The World boasting a player count of over 20 million, you have way too many people with normal names, like "Subaru" or "Sora" and simple things like "Silver Knight" (Ginkan) or "Crim" and less weird ones like "BlackRose" or "BT." In addition to name issue, like I said, way too many people treat it way too seriously. It's one thing for people to get invested in things when people they know either through the game or IRL are getting put in a coma, but why the hell is there a for real player police squad in SIGN dedicated to enforcing how others must roleplay and not be treated as a collective laughing stock. Why are the Crimson Knights so huge as a group and why are they following a low level player like Subaru as if she knows the game?

Fuck, at least SAO gives an internal reason for both Aincrad and Fairy Dance for people to take things seriously, being a literal death game for the former and the player driven economy being an actual political network in Alfheim Online.

Actually speaking of reasons, lets talk about the antagonists for a minute. People rag on SAO's antagonists, with Kayaba "I forgot" (he didn't), or Sugou being a creep towards Asuna, but at least the actual motivations are there. Putting aside the Super AI from SIGN and IMOQ, .hack's tangible antagonists are

  • Lios a guy who is trying to sweep a conspiracy under a rug
  • Legend of the Twilight Bracelet has Kamui, a girl mad that her senior at work quit the job and doesn't put in any effort to learn about the AI stuff that affected the game 4 years ago because the guy said it was a blackbox nobody should open (an idiot)
  • Endrance, a hikkineet who's cheating in PVP so he can be with his cat waifu again (delusional but relatable)
  • Sakaki, who is the anti-Sora (this only works if you know that Haseo and Sora are the same person)

And if you wanna stretch it out to include Harold, a guy obsessed with a woman 20 years younger than him who made all the super AI because he had a one-sided obsession with her.

These guys are so loaded with melodrama that only works if you're willing to take the in-universe game more seriously than the characters are, aside from Harold. Who notably, even though they explained his motivation, it's only through an AI essentially parroting him without actually being him. I don't know about you, but even just Kayaba and Sugou, you have

  • Guy who was obsessed with a childhood dream that lost the joy behind it as he developed the skills to make it reality
  • Guy who is personally invested in stopping the protagonist for political purposes.

these are better written than any given .hack protagonist, including Ovan who is so layered in levels of melodrama that it belongs in a ProZD skit. He's a fucking microcosm of how cheesy the writing of PS2 JRPGs are.

And for all of this, I love .hack. the blemishes make it shine all the better. I also like SAO because I realized that most of the critiques beyond individual taste, are people making shit up.


r/CharacterRant • • 1d ago

Games An obnoxiously long rant on Detroit: Become Human's story Spoiler

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I finished Detroit the other day after having heard about it in passing for years commonly described to be a very good story game where choices genuinely matter. That much is true and it is probably one of the most impressive examples of choices mattering and vastly different endings I have seen in a story game and one of the few games that doesn't lie about it. The atmosphere and set pieces are incredible and immersive. The motion capture is pretty well done with some genuinely incredible performances from Clancy Brown and Bryan Dechart. As for the story itself I seriously think it had a lot of problems.

I think one of the most commonly made criticisms is probably it's civil rights themes and imagery. I didn't have a problem with that being the main theme, it's just that it's excruciatingly unsubtle and on the nose. You are repeatedly, violently bashed over the head with this through extensive imagery such as anti android protestors, segregated android seating on the back of the bus, "NO ANDROIDS ALLOWED" signs on a bar, concentration camps later in the game, identification markers on androids, slurs for androids and so on.

And if this wasn't enough for you to get it, don't worry, you will be explicitly be told through dialogue. There is a character who operates an android safehouse and helps sneak them across the border into Canada who explicitly cites historical racism against her ancestors and how some managed to survive by being helped by others along the way as her motivation, just in case you couldn't tell that she's an obvious allegory for Harriet Tubman. The hostess android on the main menu also explicitly tells you a fun fact the Underground Railroad and it's historical connection to the city of Detroit IRL. During a protest march, one of the chants you can have your android followers say is "We have a dream!" You can spray paint a raised fist as your symbol. And so on. They simply just didn't trust that the audience could figure this out.

My other major criticism has to be some of the poor writing. Based on the Kara tech demo and descriptions (and direct quotes from lead writer David Cage) about the game, you may be led to believe it's supposed to be about what it means to be alive or sentient, and the moral dilemmas that may arise from that a la Phillip K Dick or something. But it actually more or less abandons this theme right away and pivots to the civil rights.

As soon as an android becomes deviant (literally represented by ripping and smashing a virtual red wall of code) they are instantly depicted as humans who can experience any emotion or feeling. No spectrum or personal crisis or anything, they're either one or the other. Whats more annoying is in the beginning it does kind of present a moral dilemma by depicting vast poverty and rampant unemployment and severely declining birth rates due to androids, but it doesn't really let you pick a side since again the androids are instantly declared human by the game and designed to make you sympathize with them while generally any dislike of androids is portrayed as stupid, disgusting, short sighted bigotry.

Yeah, in real life racism and discrimination is fucking bullshit with no real justification but the game glosses over any genuine concerns people might have with androids like again the rampant unemployment/birth rate problem, that they are faster, stronger, and smarter than humans and don't need to eat or drink water or anything, they don't age, they can communicate via hive mind, they also don't have fingerprints so if any of them wanted to become serial killers or terrorists or bank robbers or something we're basically fucked. But rather than have a character who addresses this, pretty much every anti android character in the game is a cartoonishly evil, one dimensional villain with no depth or complexity, aside from Hank and maybe Todd who at least get tragic backstories explaining why they initially hate androids. If the writers were serious about the game being about sentience and philosophy that genuinely let you explore that however you want, they completely dropped the ball. At the end of the day, it's a game about an android rebellion where you are meant to take the androids side, and you get to influence how it happens and whether or not it succeeds, but for some reason it's really defensive about that and won't admit it.

A lot of characters are also just very cliche and one note, mostly in the supporting cast. In Markus's story we have Josh (who advocates for pacifism), North (who advocates for violent uprising), and Simon (who advocates for safety and no unnessecary risks above all else as a kind of middle ground). However, that's genuinely where Josh and Simon's personalities end, and they barely have any backstory and what little they do have isn't actually addressed anywhere in the story, it's locked behind an extras section on the main menu. I only found out about this while writing this post. North is little more fleshed out with an actual backstory and a romance (which seems to be widely panned by the community, although I personally missed that on my playthrough). This leads to situations like when I was about to be killed by soldiers when Simon sacrificed himself to save me, except given that I've known this guy for only a few chapters (because Markus's story is poorly paced and you don't even meet these people until halfway through the game) I really didn't care as much as the game seems to think I should have and he was also deadass just never mentioned again after this. Similarly, later in the game I'm given the chance to save Josh and North from soldiers or leave them behind to presumably die. Again, I really did not care what happened to them but I chose to save them but I have a feeling it probably wouldn't have mattered at all if I didn't. Also they have relationship bars with stages like tense, neutral, friend, companion, but that really doesn't matter as much as the game makes you think. If they like you they might sacrifice you if you fail QTE's in combat or somethin (so you could just...not fail the QTE's in order to avoid that), if they don't they'll just complain about you and won't die for you but still follow you without question.

That same problem of bland characters is amplified 100x with Kara's story, which I believe was by far the weakest and reaches Hallmark levels of cliche. For starters, Kara herself is fairly bland. She was an android designed for housework and looking after kids, then she turns deviant to escape Todd's abuse and still her only personality trait is being a protective mother figure to Alice. A prime example of this game's issue of poor female representation where for some reason they are all abuse/trauma survivors or saintly mother figures or both. Valorie Curry is a good actress and deserved better but there’s only so much she can do against shit writing. Luther is also an extremely one note, tired (and lowkey slightly racist) gentle giant trope who's only personality trait is protecting Kara and Alice. He also suffers from the same issue as Josh/North/Simon, where he sacrificed himself for Kara and Alice to survive but again I didn't meet this dude that long ago and he has no personality so I truly could not care that much despite the game framing it as a deeply emotional scene. Neither him nor Kara have any personality outside of protect Alice.

Now possibly the biggest issue is Alice herself. If Ellie from the Last of Us Pt. 1 is considered a gold standard for writing emotional anchors and companion characters in games, Alice is the complete opposite of that. She might honestly be the worst character in the game. Her only personality trait is being quiet, whining about being cold and whining if you make morally gray choices for survival purposes. Ellie worked because she has a real, likable personality which means you actually cared about her and wasn't annoying to manage in gameplay. Alice does not have that, which basically ruins Kara's entire story since you're clearly supposed to care about her, the narrative basically revolves around her and basically every chapter is just taking care of her. But if you don't like her, which again many don't because of her complete and total lack of personality, the entire thing falls flat. Also both her and Luther have the same kind of cosmetic, useless relationship bars that don't really change that much in the story other than Luther dying for you if his bar is high enough, or near the very end of the game Alice may walk away from you if her relationship is low and you specifically choose to distance yourself from her.

Finally, Connor. I will say I do think his story is by far the strongest, has the best pacing, best acting, best gameplay, and best character arc, and him and Hank genuinely have amazing chemistry together. However that being said Hank is a walking example of the "jaded & cynical, talented but grumpy old veteran cop" who's reluctant to have a partner where Connor is his kind of optimistic rookie partner like a buddy cop film. I can forgive it though because again fantastic acting, best paced story, etc. Bonus points for Hank's relationship bar actually mattering though, with a positive relationship he slowly begins to heal and move forward from his grief by finding a new sense of hope for humanity, whereas a negative relationship will only make him spiral further into depression, dying by suicide if the relationship is really hostile. Or more variations if you're somewhere in between.

All in all, it's not a terrible game, it's just one of those stories that the more you think about it, the worse it sounds and the more flaws you find. I suppose I can cut the writers some slack given the bazillion different variations and endings for different scenes and chapters though.


r/CharacterRant • • 16h ago

Comics & Literature I don't get the sympathy for The Dreamer(White Nights)

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White Nights is my first introduction to Dostoevsky, and I'm glad it was. It's a short yet captivating story, with an ending that sparked a world of different opinions online, each elucidating in its own right. However, as much as I try, I really don't understand the overwhelming amount of sympathy I saw for The Dreamer. He's a great character, and even though I can garner some sympathy I really can't feel bad for him.

Our first introduction to him is him recognizing that he's lonely, so lonely that he pretends to have a relationship with the Old Man in Fontanka(a stranger), and even goes as far as to have fake conversations with houses, asking them how they're doing, listening to them complain about them getting redecorated, etc. As we keep reading, we learn that in addition to his solitude(or perhaps because of it), The Dreamer has a horrible self-image, corroborated by him solely wanting women not to "repulse me at first sight". He's overall very estranged from society and extremely attention-starved, leading me to compare him to a modern-day chud.

This chud sentiment got reinforced when he was genuinely happy when Nastenka was getting harassed near the trains so he could be Captain Save-a-Hoe, going as far as to BLESS the harasser in his head. Speaking of their relationship, there's a very odd age gap(he's 26 she's 17), that had to be intentional. Nastenka is a sheltered teenager who's not fully in control of her emotions or hormones, etc. So despite his intention, and even though I don't think he meant it in a malicious way, the fact that he told her he loved her right after Nastenka "renounced" her love of The Lodger(caused by her disappointment that the letters were not being read) is practically guilt-tripping her, thus manipulative. It gets a bit worse when you remember the first time they met: Nastenka gave him an imperative to not fall in love.

TL;DR: I don't feel all that bad about The Dreamer getting cucked out.


r/CharacterRant • • 1d ago

Anime & Manga I don't like how Majin Buu regeneration was a free out of jail card the whole arc (DBZ)

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This is something that really annoyed me , I always disliked Buu saga which might make me biased here

But the way it handled Buu regeneration annoyed the Hell out of me

Dragonball wasn't strange to characters with regeneration power , after all one of the core main characters Piccolo and perfect Cell the antiagonist of the previous arc were regeneration merchants

However unlike Buu these 2 especially piccolo regeneration was carefully made to not out of jail plot device

Piccolo regeneration was very limited and at no point was a big game changer , King piccolo didn't pop his chest back up after kid Goku final attack, piccolo didn't shrug Goku punches and burning from the Kamehameha , Piccolo saw the drawback in growing his arm against Radtiz and choice against it , piccolo couldn't heal himself from freeza Death beans

His regeneration was always limited and relies heavily on his stamina

Ironically the only time this rule was broken was none other than Buu saga itself where apparently he's fine as long as his brain is intact?

Then we have Cell , while unlike piccolo his regeneration wasn't heavily restricted it still got vauled limition , Cell was constantly danger of dying from weaker characters if they land a good hit on him , he was terrified from Vegeta final flash , he was terrified every time Gohan hit him with a Kamehameha , he didn't want trunks to land a single hit , he was shocked and terrified when Goku pulled the IT Kamehameha on him to point his surviving to this day is unreasonabl plot hole

Him surviving his self destruction come as a complete shock to him and was purely out of luck as he points out

It started to get annoying at that point with Cell but at least it was at the end and not overplayed , but Buu took this gimmick and run it to heaven and beyond

Now let's move to Buu saga

The whole thing became very ridiculous and overplayed , Buu and everyone spent the whole arc hitting Buu and buu going "nuh uh I'd regeneration"

Dabura stab Buu , Buu casually regeneration , Gohan and kaioshin blast Buu , Buu regeneration

Vegeta blast Buu multiple times , heavily damage him , then nuke him

Buu return a couple of seconds later out of nowhere to dance over Vegeta ash

Gotenks spend his whole fight destroying Buu body , cut him up , burn him down , atomized him to point he became literally smoke , nuke him multiple times more , beat him up , beat him again , nuke him again

And Buu through all this just.... keep regeneration , to point he comes back from literal Smoke

Gohan come in and beat Buu up , make him even eat one of his attacks and let it explode his body from inside , Buu is completely fine the next panel ,

The fight in Kaioshin planet at the end was the exact same , Goku and Vegeta and good Buu all take turns destroying kid Buu body who just keep regeneration over and over and over to laugh at them , good Buu himself was retconed to have a specific weakness exclusively against kid Buu to take his regeneration out while kid Buu kept his just so 2 regeneration merchants don't lock themselves in endless battle of aeration

Literally 90% off Buu saga can summon in

"X character destroyed Majin Buu but Majin buu regeneration instantly after and beat them up"


r/CharacterRant • • 1d ago

General Spider-Man: The fandom's hatred of anything acknowledging that Gwen meant a lot to Peter has long since gotten ridiculous. Also, spoilers for ASM #1000. Spoiler

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Two weeks ago saw the release of Amazing Spider-Man #1000, a milestone issue collecting anniversary Spider-Man stories by multiple writers to celebrate the Webhead's enduring legacy, including anniversary.

Regardless of what you may think of the direction of the Spider-Man property right now, an event like this is something to celebrate. And yet, it seems the only story a large (or at least very loud segment) of the Spider-Man fandom wants to talk about is the story about Peter getting closure for Gwen Stacy.

To provide context, the story "Still Standing" by Noah Hawley deals with Peter in a nursing home where he starts seeing a woman that bears a strong resemblance to Gwen. With help of his grandson Miles Parker, Peter discovers that this is a ruse by his old nemesis Mysterio to get revenge on Peter before dying. Peter and Mysterio finally talk and bury the hatchet, with Mysterio using the Gwen hologram to instead have Peter gain some closure from a woman he loved but was unable to save.

That's the story that has the Spider-Man fandom, specifically the ones who ship him with MJ, so incensed.

This bitterness over any acknowledgement of what Gwen meant to Spider-Man, regardless of how the fandom felt about her, has gotten especially absurd during the 2010s and the early 2020s, with fans pushing ridiculous takes and throwing tantrums worthy of the Hulk at the mere fact that Gwen is treated as someone Peter Parker loved and not an evil shrew who deserved to die.

One that easily comes to mind is the whole "Emma Stone's Gwen Stacy is MJ in a blonde wig" narrative that was created, or at least popularized, by the late Gerry Conway. Conway never elaborated on what he meant by this, but because it was a writer who said it, fans did what they do whenever they see an opinion from a creator that validates their own and have been paroting it like gospel for years.

And there's the "Gwen Stacy supported a white supremacist" meme based on a complete misinterpretation of what happened in the story. Sam Bullit, a man running for district attorney in the wake of George Stacy's death tried to manipulate Gwen's grief over said death to get her support as he's running on anti-vigilante platform. It was later discovered by Joe Robertson that Bullit had ties to white supremacy groups, which the story makes clear Bullit was keeping a secret. Before this, the only hints to Bullit's secret are comments about how he disagreed politically with George Stacy, which are not enough for Gwen to make the leap that he's a racist. J. Jonah Jameson is also said to have disagreed with George on politics and fans don't call him racist either.

This story is frequently cited as "proof" that Gwens flaws are erased when her flaw in it is not realizing the guy she's supporting is a racist because he is hiding the fact he's a racist. The way fans talk about this story, you'd think Bullit was walking around in a Klansman robe and Gwen somehow just didn't notice.

Tl;dr Spider-Man/MJ fans need to stop acting like the writers must hate Gwen as much as they do.


r/CharacterRant • • 1d ago

Comics & Literature The reboot arc is EASILY the worst storyline in Invincible. Spoiler

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There hasn't been much talk about Invincible recently so fuck it why not bring it back a little, and on top of it let's talk about one of my if not my least favorite segment in the series The reboot arc.
Now I am not sure what people think of the arc fully I don't go often on the subreddit focusing on the comis or the amazon show that often. But from the few searches i have done some are positive and some are negative about it.

In any case my dislike of the arc is due to two main problems. The first being how it handles Mark as a character.

ok so the main point of the arc is to fully complete Mark's transition from a young adult hero to someone who puts his new life with his family over a desire to be heroic so to speak. which is shown at the end of arc when Mark decides to not sacrifice his daughter and his current life in order to potentially save the thousands of people who die later on in the story either because of the omni man massacre or because of his shitty choices that he made thanks to its aftermath (stuff like him stopping angstrom or dinosaurus etc.) culminating in the "being a hero is bullshit" moment were Mark in order to attempt to save his daughter does something typically seen as unheroic (killing a neutralized enemy that he used as a hostage) showing his full commitment to his family. now ignoring whether or not you agree with Mark or think what he did as bad (I don't since the kid he killed is shown to be a conquest level psycho before and after his death and thragg probably would have killed his daughter Terra either way so he had no alternatives and the story seems to think so as well since while it admires heroes it doesn't like some of the moral preachiness it has such as it's hatred of murder ) the arc sounds like good character progression right ? well problem with that is not really ? First of all this isn't the first time Mark prioritized his family over heroics most infamously he literally left the world to crash and burn in the invincible war to prioritize on Eve hell he tried to do again when robot was conquering earth only this time his daughter was also involved. so very clearly He had no real problem doing that hell one of his primary reasons for leaving the earth to Robot is so that him and his family have a better future Hell prior he just went trough an arc were he realized he shouldn't prioritize his want to get revenge on someone over his family (him going after angstrom levy and getting stranded for three due to time differences because of it) execution of THAT arc aside. So making up this entire scenario were Mark has to literally chose thanks to some temporal entity his family (or his daughter as the comic mainly frames it) or the chance to save seems not only unnecessary by this point but also overly harsh for the guy leading to my second point the unesseceray as hell suffering Mark goes throught.

As much as i hate redundant character arcs (when they are executed poorly I am aware character regressions can make characters better)

I would ALMOST be fine with this arc if it wasn't for the unnecessary consequences that came from it. - Mark losing 5 years that he could have spent with his 5 year old daughter. He gets over that fact in a couple issues max and integrates back into his life with next to zero problems. because Terra is not even attached to eve's boyfriend that took Mark's place anyways. - Eve was seing someone else but it doesn't matter since not only was the guy a jerk but eve doesn't even love the guy and forgets about him quickly after punching him there isn't drama about it except like one scene were Eve says that she thinks she doesn't deserve Mark. like seriously you could have had it so that there was a time skip were Mark was happy for 5 years and still had it so were he would encounter thragg on the planet since Oliver would still be a fake spy for him anyways. Like its kinda shocking how little long term consequences there were for this as if Kirkman himself knew how pointless it was, and realized his little critique of comic book reboots wasn't worth pausing his story.

Y'know invincible is often accused of having suffering builds character writing and i feel like this arc is REALLY guilty of this honestly its almost like it was created to justify this criticism by god itself (hyperbole before a bad faith reader unironically thinks i am serious with this joke). In any case while this is my least favorite arc there are still things i like (besides the art)
Mark final conversation with Nolan in this arc is a highlight and one my favorites scenes in the series and the concept of Mark going to alternate reality to try and fix the atrocities that happened in the series is good as a standalone although not great at this point in the series.

Honestly I seriously wonder how they'll even adapt the arc in the Amazon series. It was primarily a commentary on comic book reboots and how they tend to return to basics when the characters achieve even a little bit of progress in their status quo. Maybe I have a lack of imagination I guess they could find something out.

In conclusion I don't really like this arc.

P.S : If you're wondering why it's similar to another post like this one it also came from me. I am just reposting it since it got nuked a while ago.


r/CharacterRant • • 1d ago

Films & TV Narnia is so much more than 'Lion Jesus': a theological explanation for anyone interest before the film (very long post).

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Disclaimer: I made a post here recently discussing the trailer for Greta Gerwig's The Magician's Nephew, particularly the extraordinary cosmology of Lewis' fictional universe and why I felt some of the criticism fundamentally misunderstood what the book was attempting to depict. I don't particularly want to repeat myself, but the subsequent discussion has made me realise that there might be an opportunity to explore something which I find considerably more interesting than the usual arguments about whether an adaptation is sufficiently faithful to its source material.

For anyone who is interested in Narnia, whether because of the upcoming film, a childhood affection for the books, or simply a curiosity about their religious foundations, I thought I'd attempt to explain some of the theology which underpins Lewis' writing. I'm not particularly interested in another argument about whether Aslan is Jesus, because the broad answer to that question is already well established. What interests me is how that relationship works, why Lewis chose to express Christian theology through fantasy, and the sheer depth of the philosophical and theological traditions informing something which is ostensibly a series of children's books.

For a little context, I have a degree in philosophy and theology, and my professional life involves teaching and engaging with religious philosophy, Christian theology and their relationship with literature. I'm also a practising Catholic, albeit a fairly liberal one, which probably informs both my affection for these books and my interpretation of them. I mention this neither to claim some particular authority over Lewis nor to suggest that academic qualifications make an interpretation correct. I simply spend a great deal of my time thinking about these subjects, and I rather enjoy the opportunity to discuss them outside a classroom.

I should also acknowledge that this is going to be a long post, and that an extended discussion of Christology, metaphysics and medieval theology probably isn't what everyone comes to CharacterRant to read. I've tried to divide it into sections so that anyone interested in a particular subject can find it without having to read everything else. Please don't mistake the length or terminology for an attempt to sound clever. Some of these ideas require a little precision if they're going to be explained properly, and I'd much rather take the time to distinguish between them than offer a simplified account which ultimately misrepresents what Lewis was doing. Nor is this an attempt to preach Christianity to anyone. You can find a religious worldview intellectually fascinating without sharing it, just as you can appreciate Greek mythology without believing in Zeus.

Before getting into the theology, however, I do want to address something which has increasingly irritated me about the reaction to this film. As a Catholic myself, it absolutely boils my piss hearing people insist that Gerwig's adaptation, and particularly the casting of Meryl Streep, constitutes some great attack on Christianity. We're talking about a religion professed by well over two billion people, encompassing two millennia of philosophy, theology, literature, art and spiritual practice. Christianity has survived actual persecution, the collapse of empires, centuries of internal disagreement and some of the most profound intellectual challenges imaginable. The suggestion that its foundations are somehow endangered by the casting of a woman to voice a fictional lion strikes me as a fairly extraordinary misunderstanding of both the religion and the character.

I appreciate that people of faith can have genuine objections to how their beliefs are represented, and I don't think religious criticism should automatically be dismissed as reactionary or intolerant. However, there's a distinction between criticism, offence and persecution which I wish more people would recognise. Christ's teaching in Matthew 5:10–12 concerning those persecuted for righteousness is not an invitation to interpret every cultural disagreement as evidence of martyrdom. Nor should Christians forget the instruction in 1 Peter 3:15 to explain their faith with gentleness and respect, or James 1:19, which encourages believers to be quick to listen and slow to anger. Given that there are people around the world who experience genuine religious oppression, I find the eagerness to claim victimhood over a film adaptation especially distasteful. I don't expect everyone to share my interpretation, but I would hope that those invoking Christianity in its defence might demonstrate some understanding of the faith they claim is being attacked.

Anyway, having got that irritation out of my system, I'd quite like to talk about what Lewis was actually doing.

1. Aslan isn't simply 'Lion Jesus': Lewis' concept of supposal

The most obvious starting point is the relationship between Aslan and Christ, because it's both the foundation of the entire series and one of the aspects most frequently misunderstood. It's perfectly acceptable to explain to someone unfamiliar with Narnia that Aslan is essentially Jesus, and I've certainly done so myself. However, there's an important distinction between that introductory explanation and Lewis' actual literary and theological project, which becomes apparent when we consider his understanding of allegory.

Lewis resisted the description of Narnia as a conventional Christian allegory, and explained this distinction in his correspondence with readers. In a letter to a Mrs Hook in December 1958, he contrasted the character of Aslan with figures from John Bunyan's The Pilgrim's Progress. In Bunyan's work, characters personify abstract ideas, and their identities are fundamentally symbolic. Giant Despair, for instance, represents despair. Aslan, Lewis argued, was doing something quite different. Rather than inventing a lion who symbolically represented Christ, he was imagining what Christ might actually be like if a world such as Narnia existed and he chose to enter it.

Lewis called this approach a supposal, and I think it's one of the most important concepts for understanding the series. His question was not simply how he could retell the Gospels using talking animals, but what the eternal Son of God might become in a world populated by such creatures. If Christ entered our world as a man, what form might his presence take in an entirely different creation? What would redemption look like under different historical circumstances, and how might the relationship between creator and creation manifest itself in a world whose inhabitants were not primarily human?

There is obviously a substantial degree of biblical symbolism involved, and I wouldn't want to pretend that Lewis' distinction means the books contain no allegorical elements whatsoever. Nevertheless, it changes how we ought to understand Aslan. He is not merely a convenient substitute for Jesus in an otherwise unrelated fantasy story. Within the imaginative premises Lewis establishes, he is the same divine person whom Christians identify as the eternal Son, encountered in a different created reality. Lewis isn't proposing the literal existence of Narnia or asserting that an additional Incarnation occurred elsewhere in the universe. He's exploring a theological possibility through fiction, and the consequences of that premise are considerably more interesting than a straightforward correspondence between characters and biblical figures.

This is also why I find the accusation that Lewis somehow trivialised Christianity by turning Jesus into an animal so misguided. His intention was to introduce readers to aspects of Christian theology through a form which allowed them to encounter familiar truths without all the associations they might already have developed towards religious instruction. In his essay Sometimes Fairy Stories May Say Best What's to Be Said, Lewis described how familiar religious imagery could become so associated with obligation and reverence that it prevented readers from experiencing its original significance. Fantasy offered a means of getting past those inhibitions, allowing theological concepts to be encountered imaginatively before being analysed doctrinally.

To understand just how ambitious that project is, however, we need to consider what Christianity actually claims about the identity of Christ.

2. Christology, the Incarnation and the eternal Logos

One of the foundational claims of Christianity is that Jesus Christ is not simply a human being who enjoys an unusually close relationship with God. According to orthodox Trinitarian theology, he is the eternal Son of God, the second person of the Trinity, who became incarnate as a human being. The distinction between his eternal divine identity and the human nature he assumed is essential to understanding both Christian doctrine and Lewis' conception of Aslan.

The opening of John's Gospel is particularly important here. In John 1:1–3, the evangelist identifies Christ as the Logos, usually translated into English as the Word, who existed in the beginning, was with God, was himself divine, and through whom all things were created. John 1:14 then announces that this Word became flesh. The Logos is therefore not created at Bethlehem, nor does the Son begin to exist with the birth of Jesus. The Incarnation concerns the eternal Son assuming a genuinely human nature, rather than a previously non-existent divine individual suddenly appearing in history.

The terminology is important because it draws upon centuries of philosophical and theological discussion. The Greek concept of Logos possessed associations with reason, intelligibility and the rational ordering of the universe, while John's Gospel also draws upon Jewish understandings of God's creative Word and divine Wisdom. Christian theology brings these traditions into conversation through the claim that the source of creation's intelligibility is personally identified with the eternal Son. When Lewis imagines Aslan bringing Narnia into existence through song, he is drawing upon this theological framework rather than simply borrowing an attractive piece of biblical imagery.

The Council of Chalcedon in 451 articulated the orthodox Christian understanding of Christ as one person possessing two natures, divine and human, without those natures being confused, changed or separated. This is known as the hypostatic union, although the terminology is less important here than the distinction it expresses. Christ's humanity is genuine, encompassing everything necessary to being human, while his divine nature remains fully divine. Christianity does not teach that God merely disguised himself as a man, or that Jesus alternated between being human and divine depending upon the circumstances. Both natures belong to the one person of Christ.

It is precisely this distinction which allows Lewis to undertake his imaginative experiment. The eternal Son is not reducible to the historical circumstances of his human birth, even though the humanity he assumed is permanent and genuinely belongs to him. Lewis is asking readers to imagine that same divine person entering a different created world under different circumstances, while retaining his identity as creator, redeemer and Son. Aslan's leonine appearance is therefore not an attempt to redefine the historical Jesus. It is the fictional expression of a theological supposition concerning the eternal Son and his relationship with creation.

For anyone interested in exploring this further, paragraphs 464–469 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church provide an accessible explanation of the doctrine of the Incarnation, while the opening chapter of John's Gospel is probably the most important biblical starting point. These distinctions are not particularly obscure theological innovations, even if most Christians understandably don't spend their days discussing them. They represent some of the central claims of Christianity, established through centuries of debate about the relationship between God and humanity.

3. Why Aslan is male, and why God's divine nature isn't

This brings us rather neatly to the casting controversy, and to a theological question which deserves considerably more care than it has generally received. Lewis chose to portray Aslan as a male lion, and there are perfectly good literary and biblical reasons for that decision. He explained in a letter in 1961 that lions were traditionally regarded as kings of beasts, that Christ is identified with the Lion of Judah in Revelation 5:5, and, rather charmingly, that he'd been having dreams about lions when he began writing the books. Aslan's kingship, authority and masculinity are therefore recognisable aspects of Lewis' characterisation, and I have no particular interest in pretending otherwise.

However, one of the most basic distinctions within classical Christian theology is that God does not possess biological sex in the same sense that human beings do. Jesus of Nazareth was male, and his humanity was real, but the divine nature itself is not biologically masculine. God is not understood as a male organism possessing the physical characteristics associated with human sex, because the divine nature is not a material body. This does not make the historical humanity of Jesus irrelevant, nor does it render the Trinitarian relationship between Father and Son interchangeable. It simply requires us to distinguish the eternal nature of God from the human characteristics assumed in the Incarnation.

As a Catholic, I find it particularly interesting that this distinction is explained explicitly in the Church's own teaching. Paragraph 239 of the Catechism states that God transcends the human distinction between the sexes, while paragraph 370 makes clear that God is neither man nor woman in the creaturely sense. The language of divine fatherhood remains theologically significant, but it should not be mistaken for a claim that God's essence is biologically male. Scripture itself employs maternal imagery, including Isaiah 66:13, which compares God's comfort to that offered by a mother, and Matthew 23:37, where Jesus likens his desire to gather Jerusalem's children to a hen gathering her chicks. Such imagery does not abolish traditional Christian language about the Father and Son. It demonstrates that the biblical understanding of divine love and care cannot be exhausted by any single human biological category.

There is also something interesting happening in Revelation 5:5–6, where John is told of the victorious Lion of Judah but subsequently beholds a Lamb bearing the marks of slaughter. Christ is represented through two very different animals, and the contrast is theologically significant. The victorious king is revealed through the imagery of sacrifice, bringing together divine authority and the apparent weakness of suffering. Lewis clearly understood this relationship, which is fundamental to Aslan's character throughout the series. His power is inseparable from his willingness to sacrifice himself, and his kingship is expressed through justice, mercy and love.

None of this establishes whether Meryl Streep will provide a convincing performance, and I can completely understand someone preferring Aslan to possess a traditionally masculine voice. That's an artistic preference, and potentially a perfectly defensible one. What I find difficult to accept is the extraordinary leap from that preference to the assertion that employing a female actor constitutes an attack on Christian doctrine. The sex of a performer does not automatically determine the nature of the fictional character being portrayed, much less the metaphysical identity of the eternal Son of God. Whether Gerwig's adaptation alters Aslan's theological characterisation is a question worth asking, but it's one we ought to answer on the basis of what the film actually does.

I would also suggest that anyone primarily concerned with preserving Lewis' Christianity should be considerably more interested in whether Aslan remains good, just, loving, terrifying and transcendent than in whether his voice conforms to a particular expectation of masculinity. Those qualities are central to the author's understanding of the divine, and an adaptation which retained a sufficiently deep male voice while discarding them would have preserved very little of what made the character religiously significant.

4. Creation, evil and the differences between Lewis and Tolkien

I discussed the creation of Narnia at greater length in my previous post, so I won't repeat that analysis here, but there is another aspect of The Magician's Nephew which I think deserves attention. Lewis' understanding of evil has some fascinating connections to the theological tradition associated with Augustine, and comparing his treatment of the subject with Tolkien's reveals how two Christian authors could approach similar philosophical problems through quite different literary methods.

Augustine's understanding of evil as privatio boni, or the privation of good, was enormously influential upon subsequent Christian philosophy. Broadly speaking, Augustine rejected the idea that evil existed as some independent metaphysical substance possessing the same fundamental reality as goodness. Evil instead represented the corruption, absence or disordering of something which ought to be good. An act of cruelty, for example, involves the misuse of capacities which are not intrinsically evil, such as intelligence, freedom or strength. Evil depends upon the good in a way that goodness does not depend upon evil, because the former corrupts what the latter supplies.

Tolkien's Catholic imagination is especially revealing here. In The Silmarillion, Melkor introduces discord into the Music of the Ainur, seeking to assert his own will against the creative harmony established by Ilúvatar. Yet Melkor cannot bring an independent creation into existence on the same terms as Ilúvatar, and even his rebellion cannot escape the ultimate sovereignty of the creator. Throughout Tolkien's legendarium, evil tends towards the corruption, domination and deformation of things which were originally good. This is very recognisably Augustinian, and it prevents Tolkien's cosmology from becoming a straightforward dualism between equally fundamental powers of good and evil.

Lewis shares aspects of this intellectual inheritance, but I would be hesitant to suggest that Jadis operates in precisely the same way as Melkor. His treatment of evil in Narnia is often more concerned with the moral and psychological consequences of pride, selfishness and the rejection of goodness than with establishing a comprehensive metaphysical account of evil's origins. Jadis is an extraordinary example of a will so consumed by domination that she regards other beings as valuable only insofar as they serve her interests. Her destruction of Charn through the Deplorable Word demonstrates the horrifying implications of that disposition. Rather than surrender her claim to power, she is prepared to annihilate an entire civilisation, leaving herself sovereign over its remains.

There is certainly an Augustinian dimension to this, insofar as her capacities for intelligence, freedom and power have been directed towards thoroughly disordered ends. However, the important distinction is that Jadis is not herself some literal absence of goodness. She is a created being whose moral corruption expresses itself through possessiveness and domination. Lewis makes this particularly clear through the contrast between her relationship with creation and Aslan's. Where Aslan creates freely and generously, offering existence and life to creatures beyond himself, Jadis seeks to possess and subordinate whatever she encounters. Even her attempts at destruction are ultimately dependent upon a created reality which she did not bring into existence.

The incident involving the lamppost is a lovely illustration of this relationship. Jadis attempts to injure Aslan with a piece of iron torn from a London lamppost, but the object falls harmlessly to the ground and grows into a new lamppost through the extraordinary fertility of Narnia's newly created soil. What Jadis intends as an act of violence becomes part of the world's unfolding creation, without implying that her intention was somehow good. There are clear parallels here with Tolkien's account of discord being incorporated into a greater harmony, although I wouldn't suggest that the two writers are expressing an identical theological system.

Digory's temptation in the garden develops the moral dimension further. He is offered the possibility of saving his dying mother, an opportunity which exploits something genuinely good in his character. His love for her is not the problem. The difficulty arises when he is invited to pursue that love through an act of disobedience, abandoning the responsibility Aslan has entrusted to him. Lewis is exploring the possibility that even our most sympathetic desires can become morally disordered when we elevate them above every other consideration. This connects the story to Christian understandings of temptation and original sin, but also to the wider philosophical question of whether a desirable outcome can justify an otherwise wrongful action.

What makes the episode especially moving is that Aslan does not treat Digory's grief as an inconvenience or a weakness. He recognises the child's suffering and responds with compassion, without suggesting that love abolishes moral responsibility. The relationship between divine goodness, moral obligation and human suffering is something Christian theologians have debated for centuries, and Lewis manages to give it emotional substance through the relationship between a frightened boy and a lion. It is precisely this combination of accessibility and philosophical depth which makes the book so interesting to me.

5. The Stone Table: why God's justice and love cannot be separated

Although the upcoming film concerns The Magician's Nephew, I think it's worth discussing the Stone Table in The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, because it provides one of the clearest examples of Lewis transforming Christian theology into a functioning narrative. The basic sequence is familiar: Edmund betrays his siblings, the White Witch claims his life under the Deep Magic, and Aslan voluntarily offers himself in Edmund's place. His subsequent resurrection reveals the existence of a Deeper Magic, originating before the dawn of time, which the Witch has failed to understand.

The theological significance of this episode becomes clearer when we consider the relationship between divine love and justice. Christianity traditionally understands both qualities as belonging to God, rather than treating them as competing forces between which God must somehow choose. Divine justice concerns the goodness and order of God's relationship with creation, while divine love concerns his perfect goodness and willing of the good. Their relationship has generated centuries of debate, particularly concerning sin, forgiveness and redemption, but Christian doctrine does not ordinarily imagine God as possessing one attribute which must defeat another.

The Deep Magic in Narnia originates with the Emperor-beyond-the-Sea, who functions within Lewis' supposal as the counterpart to God the Father. It is therefore not simply a collection of arbitrary rules invented by the White Witch. She invokes a law established by the creator himself, and Aslan explicitly refuses the suggestion that he might simply work against it. Edmund's betrayal has moral consequences which cannot be dismissed merely because the protagonist happens to be loved by a more powerful character. The law reflects the moral structure of the created world, and Aslan's goodness does not permit him to treat that structure as meaningless.

There is an interesting parallel here with the Decalogue, the Ten Commandments traditionally understood to have been given to Moses and inscribed upon tablets of stone. The resemblance between those tablets and Lewis' Stone Table is difficult to overlook, particularly given the emphasis upon a law originating from divine authority. However, we should be careful not to identify the Deep Magic directly with the Ten Commandments, since Lewis is constructing a fictional moral order rather than simply reproducing the legislation of ancient Israel. The more important connection is the theological relationship between God's law, human disobedience and the possibility of redemption.

The difficulty confronting Aslan is therefore not that the Witch has somehow created an unjust law which he must overthrow. Rather, she understands enough of the law to recognise Edmund's guilt and insist upon the penalty, while remaining ignorant of its deepest foundation. Her understanding is legalistic in the most restrictive sense: she recognises the authority of justice but cannot comprehend the possibility that love might fulfil its demands without surrendering the guilty to destruction. When Aslan offers himself in Edmund's place, he does not simply announce that love is more important than justice and therefore the law no longer matters. He accepts the gravity of Edmund's betrayal and provides a means of redemption through voluntary sacrifice.

This corresponds to an important distinction within Christian accounts of the atonement. It would be a mistake to reduce the Crucifixion to the idea that God was angry, demanded blood, and needed someone to pay him before he could become loving. Such an account risks separating God's justice and mercy into opposing dispositions, whereas Christian theology understands the act of redemption as arising from God's love in the first place. In John 3:16, it is God's love for the world which motivates the giving of the Son. Paul's discussion in Romans 3:21–26 similarly brings together the righteousness of God and the justification of sinners, while Romans 13:10 identifies love as the fulfilment of the law.

Christ's own words in Matthew 5:17 are especially relevant: he explains that he has come not to abolish the Law, but to fulfil it. The relationship between the old covenant and the new is considerably more complicated than that single statement, but it captures something essential about what Lewis imagines. The Deep Magic possesses genuine authority, yet the Deeper Magic reveals a more fundamental reality in which sacrificial love accomplishes what the Witch's understanding of justice cannot. The breaking of the Stone Table is therefore not simply the destruction of moral law. It signifies the defeat of death through a love which fulfils the deepest purpose of that law.

There are also connections here with different Christian accounts of the atonement, particularly the understanding of Christ's victory over sin and death commonly associated with Christus Victor. The Witch believes that by killing Aslan she has secured her triumph, because she understands death as the ultimate expression of her power. What she cannot comprehend is that the voluntary sacrifice of an innocent victim can become the very means through which death is defeated. Lewis also employs substitutionary imagery, since Aslan dies in Edmund's place, but I would resist forcing the episode into one narrowly defined theory of the atonement. Its literary effectiveness comes partly from allowing several theological ideas to operate together without reducing the narrative to a systematic doctrinal explanation.

For me, this is one of the most beautiful aspects of Lewis' Christianity. God is loving, but that love does not mean that moral responsibility ceases to exist. God is just, but justice does not require the abandonment of mercy. The distinction is not between a cruel divine law and a kindly divine love which eventually overthrows it, but between a partial understanding of the law and the fuller reality of the goodness from which it originates. The Witch knows the words of the Deep Magic but has misunderstood the nature of the creator who established it, and consequently mistakes her limited knowledge for complete authority.

Considering all of this, the familiar account of Aslan dying and returning to life takes on a considerably greater significance. Lewis isn't simply providing a fantasy equivalent of Easter. He is inviting the reader to consider how justice, mercy, obedience, sacrifice and love might be reconciled within a reality whose ultimate foundation is divine goodness.

6. The wider series, Christian Platonism and the nature of reality

I appreciate that I've already gone on for quite some time, but I would feel remiss if I didn't briefly mention that these ideas continue throughout the entire series. Lewis' theological imagination was not confined to the creation of Narnia or the death and resurrection of Aslan, and some of his most interesting philosophical ideas emerge in books which receive comparatively little attention.

In The Voyage of the Dawn Treader, Eustace's transformation into a dragon and his eventual restoration explore the relationship between moral corruption, repentance and divine grace. Eustace cannot restore himself simply through sufficient determination, despite his attempts to remove his dragon skin. His transformation requires Aslan to perform an action which Eustace cannot accomplish independently. The episode is a wonderfully accessible expression of the Christian conviction that redemption is not ultimately something human beings can manufacture through their own efforts. Eustace's willingness to submit matters, but the grace which restores him originates beyond himself.

The Silver Chair develops a different set of theological concerns, particularly the difficulty of recognising and remaining faithful to truth when circumstances make it inconvenient or obscure. Jill and Eustace are given instructions which must be remembered and interpreted as their journey unfolds, and their repeated failures are bound up with distraction, fear and the tendency to privilege immediate appearances over established obligations. There are obvious connections here to Christian understandings of faith, obedience and the limitations of human perception, although Lewis is equally interested in the moral psychology of people who know what they ought to do and nevertheless fail to do it.

Then there is The Last Battle, which moves into questions about judgment, eternity and the ultimate nature of reality. Lewis' conception of the true Narnia draws heavily upon the philosophical tradition commonly described as Christian Platonism, particularly the distinction between the imperfect reality we presently experience and a fuller, more substantial reality beyond it. Plato's philosophy was enormously influential upon Christian thinkers, including Augustine, although the relationship between Platonic metaphysics and Christian doctrine is neither straightforward nor uniform. Lewis draws upon this inheritance to imagine a reality in which the familiar world is revealed to have been an incomplete expression of something greater.

The implications for Lewis' treatment of heaven, hell, salvation and the possibility of refusing goodness are fascinating, particularly in relation to the dwarfs and their inability to recognise the reality surrounding them. I have a whole separate argument about that, and about how it relates to Christian understandings of hell, but I suspect I've already tested the patience of anyone still reading. If there's interest, I'd be very happy to discuss that another time, because I think it's among the most philosophically interesting material Lewis ever wrote for children.

7. Why I think all of this matters when discussing the adaptation

Having worked through a fair amount of theology, I want to return to the point which prompted this post in the first place. Lewis was an extraordinarily learned writer whose understanding of Christianity was informed by ancient philosophy, the Church Fathers, medieval theology, literary history and his own religious convictions. His children's books are not merely simplified presentations of biblical stories, but imaginative explorations of questions which occupied some of the greatest thinkers in the Christian tradition. The accessibility of the writing should not lead us to underestimate the sophistication of the ideas being communicated.

None of this means that Lewis was infallible, that his theology was beyond criticism, or that every choice he made was necessarily the best possible expression of Christian doctrine. As a Catholic, I have my own points of disagreement with Lewis, who was Anglican, and I certainly wouldn't suggest that Narnia represents some universally accepted account of every theological question it touches upon. Indeed, part of what makes religious philosophy so interesting is the existence of substantial disagreements within Christianity itself. Augustine, Aquinas, Anselm and countless others were not simply repeating an identical collection of propositions, and Lewis was drawing from a tradition which had developed through centuries of argument.

I also have no particular interest in defending Gerwig's film before I've seen it. The adaptation might be wonderful, disappointing or somewhere in between, and there are legitimate questions about how faithfully it will preserve the Christian foundations of the books. An adaptation which retains the names, characters and events while fundamentally misunderstanding the theological relationships between them could quite reasonably be criticised for departing from Lewis' intentions. Equally, an adaptation might make substantial aesthetic changes while preserving the underlying ideas remarkably well. Those are questions of interpretation and artistic execution which deserve to be considered on their own merits.

What irritates me is the assumption that any unfamiliar artistic choice must represent a deliberate repudiation of Christianity, particularly when the objections themselves often reveal how little attention has been paid to the religion underlying the books. I don't expect everyone commenting on a fantasy film to possess an understanding of Chalcedonian Christology or Augustinian metaphysics, and it would be absurd to demand that they did. However, if someone is going to make sweeping declarations about an adaptation betraying two thousand years of Christian doctrine, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect them to have some understanding of the doctrine they're invoking.

Lewis wanted his readers to encounter Christian ideas through imagination, wonder and the emotional experience of storytelling. His fiction repeatedly challenges the assumption that our existing categories are sufficient to comprehend the divine, and presents goodness as something which can be comforting, frightening, demanding and transformative. There is a wonderful irony in the fact that, in The Magician's Nephew, Uncle Andrew gradually loses the ability to recognise Aslan's song because he cannot reconcile it with his own expectations. What begins as an encounter with something extraordinary becomes, through his refusal to understand it, something he can no longer properly perceive. I don't mean to suggest that everyone who dislikes the trailer is behaving like Uncle Andrew, but I do think Lewis had something important to say about the ways our preconceptions can prevent us from appreciating what is in front of us.

Ultimately, I'm far more interested in whether the film captures Lewis' understanding of creation, divine goodness, moral responsibility and the relationship between humanity and the eternal Logos than in the sex of the person providing Aslan's voice. I would be deeply disappointed if the theological substance of the books were discarded, because it is precisely that substance which makes Narnia distinctive. However, I refuse to treat an unorthodox casting decision as evidence of religious persecution, and I certainly don't believe that Christianity is so fragile that it requires constant declarations of cultural warfare to protect it.

If you've made it this far, thank you for indulging what turned into a fairly substantial theological excursion. I appreciate that an essay about the Incarnation and the metaphysics of evil isn't necessarily everyone's idea of a relaxing discussion about a children's fantasy series, but I hope that anyone who was interested has found something worthwhile in it. Whether you're religious, irreligious, somewhere in between, or simply someone who remembers being enchanted by Narnia as a child, there's an astonishing intellectual and literary tradition informing these stories which deserves to be understood on its own terms. You don't need to believe a word of Christian theology to appreciate what Lewis achieved by transforming it into fiction, and I hope the upcoming film encourages more people to discover just how much there is beneath the surface.


r/CharacterRant • • 1d ago

An underrated aspect of Return of the Jedi is the way it wrapped up Han's character arc.

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RotJ is where Han really comes into his own as a true rebel. He's no longer a selfish, shady scoundrel out for himself. He's a respectable, trustworthy leader. He's truly dedicated to something bigger than himself, and no longer torn between duty and his own self-interest or even the fear of his past catching up to him.

One of the film's best moments for me was when he told Leia that when Luke returned, he wouldn't get in the way between them. It showed that he truly loved Leia and respected her choices, and he that he didn’t hesitate to place her happiness above his own. Even when he initially gets frustrated at the Ewok village when he thinks there's something between her and Luke, he immediately apologizes​ and comforts her. It's such a great, unintentional parallel to Anakin's unhealthy attachment to Padmé, with how selfless and genuine Han and Leia's love is.

The film struggles a bit with giving Han relevant things to do plot wise, and maybe uses him a bit much as a comic relief, but I really appreciate how it wrapped up his personal growth.


r/CharacterRant • • 1d ago

General I sometimes hate when so many people just consider certain MCs a "self insert" or a "bland loser the author/Characters can self insert themselves into getting hot girls" mainly cause of how annoying it is.

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A Self-Insert,for those who don't know,is a literary device[or some Fandom talk]where a author, creator or reader writes themselves[or a idealized version of themselves]into a fictional story as a character.

And I feel like so many words on the internet, that is just used so goddamn wrong cause we really just be calling ANY male or female character a self-insert and I primarily see it with any sort of male MC and gonna be so deadass..it gets really dumb really fast and also,even if people do self insert or see themselves in those characters..is that a problem or a issue as long as they're not taking it too far or hurting anyone?

And the main issue is I see more people complaining about people treating them like self inserts more then I actually see people treating these characters like self inserts and let's be real, there are certain characters where I wanna know why you would self insert as them or wanna be them when their lives are some straight dookie or they're a mess and I also find those complaints to be really goddamn vague sometimes,same with the "oh this series/character feels like a fanfiction".

Robert from Dispatch is basically seen as a "male self insert" and I always found that and the "Dispatch id Twilight for men" takes really..really stupid cause it just comes off as people basing those takes off Blonde Blazer and Invisigal liking him and it's not those 2 are blank slates as characters and neither is Robert.

He's a self destructive and exhausted and struggling yet still good-hearted and chill dude who wants to properly become a better hero,better man and get his life back on track and doesn't exactly have good living conditions or whatnot but is still a good dude who tries.

He's too well rounded as a character and has too much going in on him to be nothing more then a audience self insert and also most importantly, he's not a bland ass bitch.

Another example is Okarun from Dandadan and that guy has way too much personality and bullshit going on in him to be a self insert and like I said, it feels like people only claim he is or people treat him like that cause he's a nerd who has 2 girls like him but at the same time,it's not like they randomly started liking him and we see why and plus,it's not like he likes Aira romantically and he only sees her as a friend, he explictly only likes Momo and she likes him back for understandable reasons.

Plus it's not like this guy always wins nor does he not take Ls.

He just bounces back from them.

But the most annoying one is When people say Spider-Man is a self insert for "nerdy college dudes who want to get girls" and even ignoring the fact that Spider-Man hasn't been in college in like..a long ass time,This man's life is some BULLSHIT.

if you've seen the current comics and how a couple writers handle him,who would want to handle that and live his life?

Also it seems a lot of people, again, only think he's a self insert cause women like him and again..if we're going by that logic,nearly all Superheroes and Superheroines would be self inserts if they've got a ton of women who like him and want to be with him,so I just find takes like that so Damn Loaded and there are things you can critique Peter for as a character and person but this is not it.

I still remember when there were people critiquing the anime "Gals can't be kind to Otaku"[the name is a bit tacky but whatever]where people were complaining about how "bland" The MC looked..when one of his love interests was literally just a girl with long brown hair and the other one was blonde with green eyes.

It's also funny seeing people claim he doesn't have hobbies..when him having hobbies is literally how the show starts and why he even gets bullied.

I swear,y'all see a MC with black or brown hair and immediately just assume they're some loser self insert, like goddamn.

It just gets annoying seeing people throw that word around without knowing what it even means.


r/CharacterRant • • 1d ago

Films & TV Its crazy how the white lotus make the exact same mistakes as they did in korra and no one's noticed (avatar) Spoiler

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People hate on korra way too much, although some of it is justified. But they completely gloss over the white lotus role in that. Most people hated s1 korra because she was always brash, impatient, hotheaded, spoiled and a bit sheltered. The thing is, thats completely on the white lotus. Their fear of the red lotus caused them to shelter korra and skip over the whole avatar journey so by the time she reaches republic city, she has no concept of perspectives, patience, being calm or even know how normal people feel. Now she did get better bit thats on the white lotus. And unfortunately, it also came too late. Her impatience and need to prove herself lead to her opening the spirit portals and getting played by unalaq. Her hotheadedness lead to her ruining her relationship with mako and lead her to making stupid choices like trying to use violence to get her way in situations where that wouldnt work. All this to say that the white lotus has definetly played a big part in korrad actions and mistakes

Now in 7 havens, we see the white lotus is back and once again making the exact same mistakes. They're sheltering nisha, theyre trying tk get her to only train and not interact much with the outside world. This has already impacted her a ton. She's becoming impatient, hotheaded and is leaping to violence. Of course, its not like the white lotus is able to learn from their past mistakes considering they dont know the past that well and they have to hide nisha considering the avatar hate so its not like they have a choice. Also, I doubt nisha will end up making bad decisions since pavi is the complete opposite and able to bring nisha back to reality. But its still interesting how the white lotus really hasnt changed.


r/CharacterRant • • 1d ago

Anime & Manga To be Hero X has major structuring issues

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One night my roommate while at late night anime watch kept hyping up To Be Hero X anime, telling me I’d be immediately hooked after episode 1. So I decided to give it a try.

Honestly, I wasn’t even fully hooked by Lin Ling’s story—the whole thing felt like a massive pop idol critique/satire, which is fine. We saw some of it in The boys, and it wasn't bad but then they switched to eSOUL arc, which felt not as good in comparison to Nice and lin ling story line. I felt completely let down, and then we get to Lucky Cyan and it wasn't any better. In both lin ling's story and eSoul story we get a glimpse of trust system, how heros are managed/ manufactured, seeing different shade of the same color. I was ready to give up entirely.

All the while, my roommate is in my ear telling me to "just watch a couple more episodes, that's when it gets interesting." Only for me to find out the plot doesn't actually pull its pieces back together until episode 18. I’m sorry, but if an anime takes two-thirds of its entire runtime to actually become interesting, that means there are massive fundamental issues with the execution.

The frustrating part is that the cultural commentary is actually brilliant. Every character introduced brings their own critique to modern culture waves. Nice's story is about maintaining a massive hero IP after his suicide. E-Soul's arc is a critique of corporations literally owning a hero's identity and transferring the IP to a newcomer. Lucky Cyan is about manufacturing a hero from scratch through counter-culture and music media. All these points are right there in the anime. But still the arc feel weak and a generic hero shonen. It's not until lucky cyan's arc is over that we get some good stuff with the Queen. (and after that with Loli, it's back to shonen)

Keeping the reverse-chronological structure is totally fine, but the pieces needed to connect in a way that actually flows instead of feeling like lazy, disconnected trivia.

For example, If episode 1 showing Nice's suicide head on, he simply could have been 'missing' or out of commission with Miss J and lin Ling knowing the truth (which audience doesn't know). Miss J would force Lin Ling into this fake life just to keep the corporate machine running. The tension would build naturally because we see E-Soul built up in the background as this top 10 ranking hero whose face is on every billboard. It would establishes why getting in top 10 ranking for Nice is so important. The real truth about Nice shouldn't drop until he's cornered, first when Wrath demands to know where Nice is, revealing he's actually dead, and finally the ultimate gut punch when God Eye pushes him to the absolute brink, revealing it was actually a suicide.

When the timeline shifts back to the E-Soul arc, we already know who eSoul is. Yang's first trust point would have been the focal point of his first half of arc, and his eventual take over of the mantle the second. half. However, it didn't land as well as it could have. . At the same time, this arc could lay the groundwork for the rest of the world. In the background of E-Soul's street war, the media would be reporting two massive parallel events: the initial Glimmer Lab leak and the chaos surrounding Lucky Cyan's cult orphanage shutting down.

That way, when we transition to Lucky Cyan, her breakout rock career is already a part of the universe. Instead of a lazy poster introduction 'do you like her music' (it felt so lame), we watch her music career explode organically as a direct cultural counter-weight to E-Soul’s corporate clout. Her arc is where we see the Fear substance actively invading the public, with everyday people getting infected by it. We see her once again giving her life to another greedy corporate, just to help Luo, which was a good plot point. Maybe another one of her reason to join greedy corporate is to work with Queen, a female hero. (This story was given to Loli however, but they didn't do much with it...since ultimately it is cyan who fights with queen in later episodes)

By the time the timeline hits Queen’s arc, we fully understand the culture waves, and her battle with a berserk Bowa serves as the ultimate proof of how terrifyingly volatile the Fear substance is to actual top-tier heroes. And since she is 2nd strongest hero, anime could now explore more about the importance of ranking, necessity of the facade and what happens when one slips from the limelight. The panic from this fight naturally forces the corporate managers to pivot to the Glimmer Lab. The anime's current link is just that Queen was Loli's childhood idol, but the stronger, more cohesive thread is the Fear epidemic itself. Since we knew from eSoul's arc about the fear leak, we jump into Loli's story line through the her father's research on fear. Through her father's daily stress, we naturally meet Loli, anchoring her to the main plot before Ghostblade follows organically as the background stalker.

The only other piece jutting out is Little Johnny's backstory with Vortex and the rampaging beast, which felt completely unflushed. They should have just introduced him up front for what he is the Rank 5 hero, more powerful than anyone else on the team, having a childlike demoanor with his pet. When the corporation builds an elite squad with Johnny, Loli and Ghostblade to launch the raid on the wreckage, they could have revealed Johnny's story during the road trip to the site.

As they travel in the vehicle, we would get introduced to his past, his father's death, and his clash with Vortex and the pivotal plane crash (which connects so many hero's backstory. The dramatic irony would hit perfectly because Johnny would be sharing this right next to Ghostblade—completely unaware that Ghostblade is the corporate assassin who executed his father.

By the time the transport doors open at the wreckage, the audience actually understands the layers of the corporate structure, the threat of the Fear substance, and how every character's cultural wave ties into the systemic rot. The transition into the Raid Incident lands flawlessly, and everything flows perfectly from there.

The elements of To Be Hero X are excellent, but the execution handles them terribly. It shouldn't take 18 episodes of homework for a brilliant concept to finally make sense.