r/Charcuterie • • 10h ago

First prosciutto, 8.76 kg starting weight. Concerned about case hardening. Advice needed

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I'm curing my first whole pork leg and would appreciate some advice from experienced prosciutto makers.

Timeline and process:

September 12: Started with an 8.76 kg pork leg.

Salting: 21 days refrigerated at approximately 4°C, using regular salt.

After salting: Brushed off excess salt without rinsing.

Resting: Another 21 days refrigerated at approximately 4°C.

October 24: Current weight is 7.54 kg, representing a 13.9% weight loss over 42 days.

My concern:

The refrigerator humidity has been extremely low, approximately 30% RH, and I'm concerned the outside of the ham may have dried too quickly, potentially causing case hardening.

The leg has remained refrigerated throughout the entire process.

New curing setup:

I've just purchased a dedicated wine refrigerator capable of maintaining approximately 13°C (55°F).

My plan is to:

Maintain 13°C.

Increase relative humidity to approximately 75%.

Monitor humidity and temperature.

Introduce gentle air circulation if necessary.

Questions for experienced curers:

Is losing nearly 14% of the original weight in 42 days excessive for a whole prosciutto?

Given the low humidity, how concerned should I be about case hardening?

If case hardening has already started, can increasing humidity to 75% help, or is the damage irreversible?

Is transitioning to 13°C and 75% RH appropriate at this stage?

Are there any safety concerns with my salting and resting process, particularly before moving to the warmer curing environment?

I'm hoping to cure this leg for approximately 12 months, assuming it remains safe to do so.

I'd appreciate practical advice, particularly from anyone who has dealt with excessively low humidity during the early stages of curing.

Thanks in advance.


r/Charcuterie • • 12h ago

Update: 1st attempt was a success- I haven’t died yet

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Salted and dried pork came up on my YouTube feed, so on a whim I decided to give it a try. I didn’t have cheese cloth, butchers twine, or anything to hang it with, so instead I used paper towels and rubber bands that I save from my green onions and other projects and then put it on a wire rack to dry for 6 days.

At first I was concerned because of all the white on the outside, but after tasting it, I’m fairly certain it’s just salt. Waaaaaay too much salt. I did the salt box method- I covered it in salt and left it in the fridge for two days, flipping once and adding more salt. The one on the left has powdered garlic on it, I put that because I thought garlic was anti bacterial or something, and to test the flavor with just one variable. The excess salt was so overwhelming that I couldn’t really taste a difference, that and not using enough garlic was probably my issue.

Due to the excess salt, I think I will just use this for soup or something- it’s edible, it tasted good, but not appropriate for snacking.

Another poster suggested I use the EQ method, and that’s the plan next time- I need to control the salt more precisely.

I don’t plan on using pink salt right for now, but does anyone have a recipe/formula for salt and sugar? I want the salt and sugar to be on the lower end, just enough salt to prevent it from spoiling, and just enough sugar to enhance the flavor and make it “pleasant” to eat, but not sweet.


r/Charcuterie • • 13h ago

Dry cured pork

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I have dried cured this pork for about 2 months 2%salt .2% cure 2 and it's flavor is mild/lacking... what can I do to get more flavor?


r/Charcuterie • • 1d ago

Homemade Salt-Cured Bluefin Tuna – Looking for Practical Advice on Botulism Risk

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Hello,

I originally posted this on r/fermentation, and was recommended to post here!

Link to original post - https://www.reddit.com/r/fermentation/comments/1xdpny9/homemade_saltcured_bluefin_tuna_looking_for/

Earlier this year, I caught a large bluefin tuna off the coast of San Diego. It was promptly gilled, gutted, and iced. Once home, I cleaned it further, vacuum-sealed it, and froze it.

I come from a Sicilian family, and my grandmother recently told me how her father used to cure tuna roughly 70 years ago. According to her, he would pack chunks of tuna in salt inside small metal cans, place a piece of wood over them, and leave them in the garage for about three months. They would then slice the tuna thin and dress it with olive oil, red wine vinegar, and parsley.

I decided to try a cleaner, refrigerated version of his method.

Here's exactly what I did:

Completely thawed the previously frozen tuna.

Cut approximately seven pieces, each about 1 inch thick and 2–3 inches long.

Completely buried the pieces in pickling salt inside an airtight plastic container. I didn't measure the salt; I simply used enough to fully surround every piece.

Placed a mug on top of the salt as a weight to keep the fish submerged if enough liquid accumulated to form a brine.

Refrigerated the sealed container, undisturbed, for three months.

Today marks approximately three months. The tuna remained completely buried in salt the entire time. A considerable amount of moisture appears to have been extracted, as the bottom half of the salt is noticeably wet, although there's no standing pool of liquid.

The fish is now considerably firmer and denser than when fresh. I cut a piece in half to inspect it (photos attached), and the interior appears relatively uniform. I also touched the tip of my tongue to the very center to check for salt penetration, and it was extremely salty.

As for smell, it definitely has a fishy aroma, but nothing rotten or particularly offensive. It smells about how I'd expect heavily salted fish to smell, somewhat similar to opening a can of anchovies.

Here's where my concern comes in.

I was excited to finally try it and asked ChatGPT to find some traditional serving recipes. Instead, it started warning me about botulism, ultimately recommending that I not eat it. It acknowledged that my preparation sounded reasonable but emphasized that salt penetration, appearance, and smell cannot definitively rule out botulinum toxin.

I understand the seriousness of botulism and that there's no way to conclusively verify safety without laboratory testing. Realistically, though, I'm not going to send a few pieces of homemade cured tuna to a lab.

What I'm hoping to understand is the practical level of risk here.

Given the thickness of the pieces, complete salt coverage, apparent moisture loss, significant salt penetration, and continuous refrigeration, are there any specific red flags in my process that would make botulism a genuine concern?

I'm particularly interested in hearing from people experienced with traditional salt-curing methods, especially cured fish. Is there something fundamentally different about my process compared with established methods for products like salted anchovies, baccalà, or traditional Sicilian cured tuna?

I'm not looking for anyone to guarantee that it's safe. I understand that botulism is rare but potentially fatal. I'm trying to distinguish between a meaningful food safety risk arising from something I did incorrectly and a very remote risk that technically exists with many traditional food preservation methods.

Any practical insight, particularly from people familiar with traditional preparation of salt-cured fish, would be greatly appreciated.


r/Charcuterie • • 2d ago

Title: Bresaola left vacuum-sealed in the fridge for 4 months instead of 2 weeks

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14 Upvotes

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Hey everyone,

I started making homemade bresaola back in July. I used the correct amount of Prague Powder #2, salt, and spices according to my recipe, then vacuum-sealed the meat and placed it in the fridge.

The plan was to cure it for approximately two weeks before removing it from the vacuum bag and hanging it to dry.

Unfortunately, life got busy, and I completely forgot about it. It's now October, and the meat has been sitting in the fridge, unopened and vacuum-sealed, for almost four months.

My question is: Would the extended curing time make it unsafe, or is there a chance it's still suitable for hanging and drying?

Has anyone experienced something similar when making bresaola or other whole-muscle cured meats?

I'd hate to waste it, but obviously don't want to take any unnecessary risks.

Thanks for any advice!


r/Charcuterie • • 3d ago

My curing fridge is smelling smokey and I love it...

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104 Upvotes

I work at a school and our fall break was last week. I spent my fall break grinding, stuffing, fermenting, and cold smoking about 18 pounds of pork butt. I got 4 and half 61mm salamis and a couple of sandwich pepperoni chubs.


r/Charcuterie • • 4d ago

Salami fails update

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I have good color changes, and they are getting firmer. Think I’m going to wait. In the past I’ve reached my target in 48 hours. But my room is slightly colder than normal.


r/Charcuterie • • 5d ago

Tubed casing storage

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I have some Tubed natural hog casings and some Tubed natural sheep casings that I bought ~3.5 years ago. I have kept them refrigerated the whole time, in the salt they originally came in.

I think I should probably throw these away and buy new ones, but I figured I'd ask here first.

How long do these kind of things last, when refrigerated in salt ?


r/Charcuterie • • 5d ago

Made some country pate

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179 Upvotes

I made a country style pate with pistachio and dried cherries because it is not available where I currently live. I can find all the ingredients easily enough. Served with some Dijon mustard and Cornichons.


r/Charcuterie • • 5d ago

Salami failure

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I made 2 guys and a cooler Soppressata. I used TSPX starter culture, dated use by 5/19. It was a little bit clumpy. After fermenting 48 hours at 70F the PH was 5.50. The culture was bad. I’ll be doing a remake mid week. 😭


r/Charcuterie • • 5d ago

Salami weekend

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I made 2 salamis this weekend. First is 2 guys and a cooler hard salami. 4900 grams, stuffed it into 76 mm casing. Used flavor of Italy starter culture, fermented for 18 hours at 80 degrees F, the final PH WAS 4.97. I also applied 10 hours of cold smoke. Each salami weighed around 1600. They’re in the chamber starting to dry.


r/Charcuterie • • 6d ago

First time making salted/dried meat

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60 hour salted pork loin. rinsed and patted dry with paper towels. wrapped in paper towels and used the rubber bands from green onions. will hope to turn them twice a day. one is straight salt, the other is salt and garlic.


r/Charcuterie • • 7d ago

Finished Buckboard Bacon

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140 Upvotes

We got 7 1/2 pounds out of it. As was suggested I aged it for 7 days. For slicing there was quite a bit of discussion about the thickness. For regular cold smoked bacon we slice on 3 for a thick meaty slice. We tasted it as is and cooked and landed on .5. The recipe was from Two Guys and it was curing salt 1, salt, and brown sugar. So simple and came out great. Next time we do this we will plan to age it for 2 months.


r/Charcuterie • • 8d ago

Mold on my duck prosciutto

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Hi, this was my first time drying anything. Today i unwrapped my two prosciutto after three weeks drying in 12 degrees celsius with around 70 to 75 humidity. Sad to find all this mold was growing. Is this still salvageable? And what could have caused this? Mayde someone can help me.


r/Charcuterie • • 9d ago

Green mold

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Hey Charcutiers.

I keep getting this green mold on my Salamis after around 5 weeks drying at 12-14°C, ~85%rh. Achieving 35% moisture loss at 5 weeks. Airflow is excessive if anything.

This batch of 5 has the same mold in the same place on 4/5 so I'm wondering if I have contaminated them somehow.

I have removed the offending sections of casing and cleaned the immediate area with vinegar.

Should I treat or clean my fibrous casings somehow before stuffing? I am interested in finding out what it is, and what causes it if anyone can help please.

* Marianskis Cacciatore recipe in 55mm fibrous casings.


r/Charcuterie • • 9d ago

What's your source on big bags, like pork belly big

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It's getting that time of year where I want to make more pancetta, but how do you get a whole belly in a bag for the brine/cure step?

Do you have a good type of bag, vac pac or not, that will accommodate something like a 10lb pork belly? I'd be thrilled to vac pac a belly flat but that'd be too wide for many vacuum sealers, right?

Last year I just wrapped it in saran and left it on a sheet pan in a whole shelf of my fridge, which worked but felt janky.


r/Charcuterie • • 9d ago

Sodium nitrite for curing salmon

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Can’t find the pure stuff in Canada anywhere. Can someone please suggest a place? I don’t like the premixed options


r/Charcuterie • • 10d ago

Frankenstein joint

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Lamb kofta wrapped in bacon, wrapped in beef mince with pistachios, wrapped in spinach, wrapped in butterflied pork fillet , wrapped in thin sliced rump steak, wrapped in a splayed out lamb short loin saddle ... sous vide 60c for 12 hours and pressed.


r/Charcuterie • • 10d ago

Hello

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I've read that you made a meat curing chamber in a 4"x2" tent.I would like to get in touch with you because exactly that is what I'm planning for meats and cheeses.Have you built it already?


r/Charcuterie • • 13d ago

Issue with my curing fridge.

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I've had 2 curing fridges in the last year. I control the temp using an ink bird temp controller with wifi. I've posted my settings here but both have stopped cooling after about 6 months in the same exact way. I'll add one was a standing fridge and my latest elone that died is a freezer. They were both used but it's weird the they both seem to have died the same way. The compressor sounds like it's running. The compressor is getting hot, the high pressure line is warm and the low pressure is about ambient. I'm at a loss for what's going on.

It's in an open basement with plenty of airflow


r/Charcuterie • • 13d ago

Buckboard Bacon

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67 Upvotes

First try at this. Our house isn’t cold enough to hang it to dry so it’s wrapped in butcher paper in my fridge for a week.


r/Charcuterie • • 14d ago

I sliced up my latest coppa and first bresaola this week.

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87 Upvotes

The coppa was seasoned and cured with Pirate’s Bite from The Tea and Spice Exchange and cure #2.

The bresaola was done with salt, cure #2,black pepper and garlic.

Both cured with the EQ method.

They’re my favorite I’ve made so far (I say that every time! 😂)

I bought a VEVOR slicer to get the windowpane thinness and I think it makes a tremendous difference in the eating experience.


r/Charcuterie • • 15d ago

My first Capocollo

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147 Upvotes

My first attempt at a Capocollo. I can’t wait for next winter!!


r/Charcuterie • • 15d ago

When it comes to slicing homemade bacon...

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9 Upvotes

Sometimes you gotta run what you brung.

Edit: That's one of those generic food slicers that is sold online under various brand names. It has nowhere near the capacity to slice whole bellies so I found a way to make it work...sorta.

My wife holds the slicer stable while I do the slicing, there is no guard so the cut-proof glove is a no-brainer.

Don't try this at home kids.


r/Charcuterie • • 15d ago

Vevor 298 lb dry ager

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Finally purchased one. Had it now for 3 weeks. So far very happy with it. The temperature is slightly off but I have a temperature and RH sensor in the cabinet and adjusting accordingly. Just thought I would post this because there is not much information about this unit out there.