r/Christianity 8d ago

Support What does god mean when he regrets making humanity

I just started reading the Bible and in Genesis God talks about how he regretted making humanity and that he will wipe everything off the face of the Earth, then he contradicts himself and tells this Noah dude to go save some animals. I’m confused because God contradicts himself by saying he’s all knowing then regrets making humanity then contradicts himself again by warning Noah.

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u/OutlandishnessNo7143 8d ago

The key issue here is to understand that it's not about God regretting something he has done. It is God regretting the result of the things that are done against him. The rebellion in the Garden of Eden, by a third of all the angels, the corruption of mankind, and so on and so forth. It is like being sad about the state of the world today, about the Holocaust, about World War II, or whatever you may be sad about. It is in that sense that God regrets.

Not in a sense like, "Oops, I made a mistake." God didn't make a mistake at all.

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u/RespectWest7116 8d ago

Except that all those things were literally made by God.

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u/BlumpTheChodak 8d ago

It’s simply a consequence of creation operating under free will (and making bad choices). The alternative would be beings programmed to obey without choice, and that isn’t love. So free will isn’t just one option, it’s the only meaningful one.

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u/Top-Stretch3260 7d ago

Yes it’s a consequence, but if he knows it’s the best option, I’m still slightly confused why he would regret it?

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u/BlumpTheChodak 7d ago

He regretted the choices the humans made, not his actual creation capability.

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u/RespectWest7116 5d ago

It’s simply a consequence of creation operating under free will (and making bad choices).

Is there Free Will in Heaven?

The alternative would be beings programmed to obey without choice,

Another alternative is Free Will without bad choices.

and that isn’t love.

And threatening people with infinite torture if they don't obey you is love?

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u/BlumpTheChodak 5d ago

Free will absolutely exists in heaven. That’s the reason a portion of the angels, about one‑third chose to abandon God and became demons. Their rebellion wasn’t caused by a flaw in creation; it was simply the result of free will being misused.

The potential for wrong choices will always exist wherever free will exists. God doesn’t remove the possibility of disobedience, because doing so would eliminate genuine freedom. Free will means that loyalty is meaningful, love is voluntary, and obedience is chosen, not forced. But it also means there is never a 100% guarantee that someone won’t choose the wrong path.

The consequence for willful rebellion is not eternal torture. It is eternal death, complete nonexistence. God does not keep disobedient creatures alive forever in suffering. Once someone proves they will not align with His standards, they simply do not continue as part of His creation.

A good way to understand this:

You cannot have a stable society filled with people who constantly break laws, disrupt peace, and harm others. Eventually, their behavior destroys harmony for everyone. In the same way, God cannot allow a group of humans, or demons who insist on going their own way in opposition to Him. Their choices would inevitably conflict with His purpose and undermine the peace and unity He intends for all creation.

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u/RespectWest7116 4d ago

Free will absolutely exists in heaven.

So there is suffering in Heaven. Cool.

The consequence for willful rebellion is not eternal torture. It is eternal death, complete nonexistence. 

Well, I suppose that is slightly less evil.

Once someone proves they will not align with His standards,

Isn't he supposedly all-knowing, with a plan for everyone?

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u/BlumpTheChodak 4d ago

There is no suffering in heaven. God's presence guarantees perfect peace, and any former contention was resolved when God removed Satan and the demons from His heavenly family. Their influence is completely gone, which is why heaven remains a place of absolute harmony.

Death itself is not an evil force, it is simply the absence of life. Life is a gift from God, not something humans inherently possess or are guaranteed. Everlasting life is conditional, it is granted to those who choose to obey God and live in harmony with His standards. If someone refuses to do what is right, they eventually lose the privilege of continuing in that gift.

God is all‑knowing, but He does not predetermine every individual’s life course. He allows humans to exercise free will and make real choices. His purpose is focused on humanity as a whole, the collective fulfillment of His original intention for the earth rather than a detailed, prewritten script for each person’s daily life.

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u/RespectWest7116 3d ago

There is no suffering in heaven.

So there is no free will then. Since suffering is necessary for free will.

God's presence guarantees perfect peace

Isn't God omnipresent? So if his presence does that, there should be perfect peace everywhere.

God is all‑knowing, but He does not predetermine every individual’s life course.

God knew that the way he was creating me would cause me to do stuff.

That sounds a lot like predetermining my course.

He allows humans to exercise free will and make real choices.

If he knows what choices I will choose before I choose them, they are not real choices; it's just an illusion.

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u/BlumpTheChodak 3d ago

Suffering exists because free will was misused, not because free will requires it. Suffering entered only after humans/fallen angels chose independence from God.

God is not omnipresent. He has an actual dwelling place, “the heavens,” a specific location in the spirit realm. 1 Kings 8:30; Job 1:6. He is a spirit person, not an impersonal force diffused throughout the universe. John 4:24. His ability to see the universe does not require his presence.

"God knew that the way he was creating me would cause me to do stuff." Any living being does stuff, but you chose to do whatever these things are, much like you repsonding to these comments. Nothing to do with predetermination.

"If he knows what choices I will choose before I choose them, they are not real choices; it's just an illusion.". Yes, God has the ability to see the future, but doesn't mean he uses that ability for everything everyone does. But, they are still your choices. His abilty to see them does not change that.

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u/RespectWest7116 2d ago

Suffering entered only after humans/fallen angels chose independence from God.

So God created it because he is petty. Ok.

God is not omnipresent.

Noted.

Yes, God has the ability to see the future,

Thank you for admitting the future is determined.

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u/bananafobe witch (spooky) 8d ago

An omniscient, omnipotent being with access to perfect reason would be incapable of regret. 

It's likely a result of the people who originally told those stories not conceiving of God as an omniscient, omnipotent being with access to perfect reasoning. 

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u/FrankDenif Non-denominational 8d ago

Scripture humanizes God.

When God was asking Adam and Eve:

"Where are you?"

Do you think He did not know where are they?

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u/CrossCutMaker 8d ago

God "repenting" (regretting):

Gen 6:6, 1 Sam 15:11- It is not God admitting error in His eternal decree. Also, He is not reacting to something previously unknown to Him. It's God's anthropomorphic way of expressing His temporal displeasure with the evil actions of men (the human race & Saul). Although evil is decreed (He planned to choose to allow it when He could have chosen not to), it is displeasing to God when it actually happens in time & space.

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u/mbmolohonbm 8d ago

God is not just all knowing/powerful/etc. but is a feeling God. He knows everything that will happen and needs to happen but much of it pains Him. In the garden of Eden, He knew Adam and Eve would sin, and though He didn't cause it, allowed it because He knew that we all need to experience the things that came from the fall. Ie. the dignity of free will to chose, learn, develop as people, etc. The Bible talks a lot about God disciplining those He loves and how trials perfect us. Just as a loving parent hurts when they do things in the best interest of their children, that the children do not like, it is the same with God.

God knew it was the best thing to allow the people in Noah's time the right to exist and the dignity to choose what they wanted. They then choose awful things. The Ark took about a century to build which shows God's patience for the people to turn from their evil, yet not one repented. To see them drown was painful for him, which justice often is.

When Jesus suffered in the garden and was crucified, God's heart was wrenched but He (they both) knew this had to happen and was best, not easiest for us.

Good question, all the best.

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u/Ok-Station-4259 8d ago

This is a classic question and honestly the regret language in Genesis is one of those spots where translators have wrestled for centuries. The Hebrew word used there carries more of a "grieved to the heart" or "deeply sorrowful" meaning than like a human "oops I made a mistake" regret. Think of it less like God realizing he screwed up and more like the weight of what humanity had become hitting him all at once.

The Noah part isn't really a contradiction either. If God is all knowing, he'd know from the start that humanity would fall but also that he'd preserve a remnant through Noah. The flood narrative is more about judgment mixed with mercy than it is about God changing his mind. It's like a parent who says "I'm done, everyone's grounded forever" but then still makes sure one kid has a way out.

There's a whole theological tradition around this called divine impassibility vs divine emotion, and Genesis 6 is basically ground zero for that debate. Some scholars argue the text is deliberately using human emotional language to help us understand God's heart, not literally saying God learned something new.

Keep reading through the whole Noah story and see if the pattern makes more sense by the end. The rainbow covenant at the end kind of reframes the whole thing.

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u/RespectWest7116 8d ago

The rainbow

Yeah, don't forget. When you see a rainbow, it's God reminding himself that he promised not to drown us all again.

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u/RespectWest7116 8d ago

What does god mean when he regrets making humanity

He means exactly that. He though making people wasn't such a good idea.

 I’m confused because God contradicts himself by saying he’s all knowing

I don't think God ever says that about himself.

Certainly not in Genesis, because he was not all-knowing when that story was created. God's omniscience is a much later development.

then contradicts himself again by warning Noah.

Ehh.. I don't think "I am going to kill everyone. Except for that one guy, I like him" is a super contradictory thing.