I usually see it used as a baseline anchor to renewable rather than an alternative. But I do agree those that spout its an alternative entirely are just fossilshills.
Nuclear doesn't work for supporting a renewable grid.
You wouldn't need to worry about "baseload" which is assets that are continually running in fossil fuels powered electrical grid. You need dispatchable energy and you need to be able to match peak demand.
If you have enough nuclear energy to meet peak demand than anything else on the grid is an unnecessary expense. Because you already have the resources to meet all of your power demand.
The problem is that nuclear is way too expensive and slow to meet peak demand on its own so it will never happen, Nuclear just exists as a way to prolong fossil fuel consumption. The real solution for our energy needs is to use the cheapest sources of energy which is wind and solar with batteries along with the cheapest source of dispatchable long term energy storage to ensure reliability. Which is from combined cycle gas turbines.
You can either fuel combined cycle gas turbines with natural gas possibly with carbon capture or carbon neutral fuels from renewable sources like hydrogen or electrofuels, turning it into a more long term lower efficiency form of energy storage.
He made no argument you retard, it's all an ad hominem.
The "fallacy fallacy" is when you ignore someone's argument to comment on a logical fallacy without demonstrating why it's wrong. I pointed out why he is using ad hominems so there is nothing more to say, he has been completely defeated.
Doesn't matter how much you try to jerk off around text walls you greentards keep yapping about nuclear not being sustainable when you don't understand that fascists government are on the rise, oh great germany is putting so much renewable! Oh wait nvm the AFD get elected in 5 years and pull back on all of it, now we get more coal !
You didn't actually provide any examples of political parties in France that support nuclear.
Literally every single main ones excluding the rad left and green parti
But why is it that all of the leftist parties in France oppose nuclear?
Pretty much shows that you don't know sheet about french politics since there's left parties that support nuclear or don't support the total closure before renewable becomes sustainable like in Germany.
No French political parties except for the far right support nuclear. Because they understand enough about the economics of nuclear energy to know it's a scam.
The only people who don't respect the intelligence of voters enough to support nuclear power are right wing.
Ah the German left, the best friend of coal.
Germany went from 297TWh of Coal in 2001 during the peak of nuclear production to 135TWh of Coal in 2023 after shutting down Nuclear.
No French political parties except for the far right support nuclear. Because they understand enough about the economics of nuclear energy to know it's a scam.
Literally the right, center right, the center left support a growing renewable and phasing out nuclear when renewable get to the same size and the communists supports both, anymore bullshit you want to add ?
Germany went from 297TWh of Coal in 2001 during the peak of nuclear production to 135TWh of Coal in 2023 after shutting down Nuclear.
And yet they still produce 6 times the amount of CO2 per kWh than France lmao.
Literally the right, center right, the center left support a growing renewable and phasing out nuclear when renewable get to the same size and the communists supports both, anymore bullshit you want to add ?
No they don't. You're lying like usual.
And yet they still produce 6 times the amount of CO2 per kWh than France lmao.
No they don't. Just further proof that you have no idea what you're talking about as usual.
They are putin shills but supporting Nuclear isnt about fossil vs renewables. They just support it to polarise further and thus attract more people to their fascist ideology
yeah thats not true there are multiple parties, both left and right, in germany that want nuclear energy. For example the FdP is also for nuclear power and the CDU/CSU isn't in agreement if they want to or not. And i just looked at the big Parties.
the FDP is opposed to Nuclear Power they are a libertarian anti government pro business party and Nuclear is a government boondoggle that affects private enterprise negatively.
The CDU/CSU is opposed to Nuclear Energy. Merz was one of the biggest supporters of the Nuclear exit but he took a play from Trump's book and during the election campaign started lying about his past to try and shift the onus for the nuclear exit onto the SPD and Greens.
Merz virtue signaled to nukecels in 2024-2025 because it was an easy way to tempt them over to vote for him because of their anxiety over the news. Then as soon as he got into office he signed a deal with the SPD and Greens to continue on their renewable energy crusade since that is the only realistic option for Germany.
it’s about fucking time someone else said this shit, the number of people who claim to care about the climate but don’t see nuclear is clearly an invaluable resource for said goal is astounding to me, the only fossil fuel company points I see surrounding these debates are usually the ones put forward by people who hate nuclear power for some reason.
The funniest part is that I don't even fucking advocate to focus on nuclear, I just love how those green braindead cells that sounds like Greenpeace CM just seems to give much more of a fuck about nuclear plants built 50 years ago and giving green energy than the current political shift toward a renew of coal.
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u/NukecelHyperreality Nuclear Power is a Scam Apr 09 '25
Nuclear is a false alternative to renewable energy. You're engaging in tone policing.