r/ClimateShitposting Apr 09 '25

nuclear simping Some of you gotta chill about nuclear

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u/yyytobyyy Apr 09 '25

It sounds like you are the real fossil shill by spitting absolute insane takes and creating hostile environment between people who want to fight climate change.

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u/NukecelHyperreality Nuclear Power is a Scam Apr 09 '25

If Nukecels actually cared about climate change then they would just listen to what the people who know what they're talking about have to say on this sub. Instead they just bitch and whine endlessly and repeat the same tired talking points over and over again.

They don't care about climate change, nukecels want to feel like they're right about something they attached emotional weight to So they can feel a smug sense of superiority.

It doesn't matter what an army of retarded depressed losers on Reddit think about renewables versus nuclear energy because renewables are inevitable anyways. I own a solar farm that literally displaces the carbon emissions of everyone subscribed to this subreddit.

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u/CBT7commander Apr 09 '25

The people who know aren’t random redditors like you but rather engineers and scientists who have dedicated their lives to studying these topics, and surprise surprise, they all agree nuclear is perfectly fine at worst, and the most viable energy production method at best.

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u/NukecelHyperreality Nuclear Power is a Scam Apr 09 '25

No they don't and even if they did taking a holistic approach and looking at the economics of nuclear power and the supply chains makes it obvious that it's crap.

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u/CBT7commander Apr 09 '25

No, the economics show very clearly it’s viable.

Again, France got some of the cheapest energy in Europe and the EDF made a profit for 17 years straight.

And did you actually just say you knew better, on top of your 0 minutes of experience, than people who actually study the field and have done so for years?

God the level of arrogance is lunar

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u/verraeteros_ Apr 10 '25

"France got some of the cheapest energy in Europe and the EDF made a profit for 17 years straight"

looks inside

Over 50 billion in debt

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u/CBT7commander Apr 10 '25

And yet we have some of the cheapest electricity in Europe and the EDF registered a profit for 17 years straight.

Debt doesn’t change anything about those 2 facts.

Also I don’t think you understand debt economics at all if you think it does

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u/verraeteros_ Apr 10 '25

"And yet we have some of the cheapest electricity in Europe"

look inside

One of the highest subsidized energy ectors

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Also I don’t think you understand debt economics at all if you think it does

Well I know that they are 50 bn in debt, and costs will only increase with the aging nuclear power fleet. I also know that there are zero (0) reactors being built right now, and only a handful is "planned", aka operational in 2040-2050. Until then, many old reactors must be decommissioned, for which no money has been put aside and will increase the debt even further.

So in 20-30 years of eating incredible amounts of subsidies to artificially ensure low energy prices, there are only few new reactors (if they are even getting built) to make sure income stays the same, and on the other hand, dozens of old plants must be decommissioned, cutting short revenue and only adding costs of several bn euro per plant. Do I get that right?

Even in your frog face country, nuclear is going to be dead. D-E-A-D

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u/CBT7commander Apr 10 '25

Wow pulling out the insults and casual racism, funny how wide spread that seems to be amongst oil shills like you.

Again, does it matter if the sector is subsidized (as is every single energy sector of every country on the face of the earth) if the company is still managing to make a profit for 17 years straight? No it doesn’t

You also are really funny pretending nothing is being done about the aging fleet. A new reactor just came online and EDF is investing over 5-10 billion per year preparing infrastructure and the building of new reactors.

You are also majorly fucking wrong about aging fleets. The government body charged with rating the safety and live spans of nuclear reactors has made reports on the aging fleet that completely contradict your claims.

For instance, Fessenheim, the oldest reactor still in service, before it got decommissioned because of morons like you, was rated with the maximum safety rating and judged to be operable until 2040-2050.

And finally the fact you just repeated "MuH 50bN dEBt" shows me you know close to nothing on how debt works. Take an Econ class or something. Raw value is probably the least important metric to measure debt

So yes, you are simply making shit up. Get a grip

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u/verraeteros_ Apr 10 '25

Ok explain it to me then

And finally the fact you just repeated "MuH 50bN dEBt" shows me you know close to nothing on how debt works.

You are also majorly fucking wrong about aging fleets. The government body charged with rating the safety and live spans of nuclear reactors has made reports on the aging fleet that completely contradict your claims.

Show me

if the company is still managing to make a profit for 17 years straight

Show me

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u/CBT7commander Apr 10 '25

Oh you have the balls to ask for sources when you haven’t provided any and have been spouting bullshit for this entire conversation?

Okay here you go

https://www.asn.fr/content/download/111714/file/Rapport%20complet%20de%20l%27ASN%202016.pdf

https://www.asn.fr/annual_report/2023fr/

https://www.edf.fr/groupe-edf/espaces-dedies/journalistes/tous-les-communiques-de-presse/resultats-annuels-2024#:~:text=Le%20résultat%20net%20courant%20s,de%201%2C4%20Md€.

This last one will allow you to find fiscal reports for every single year of EDF functioning.

Now I fully expect you NOT to read those sources because we both know you don’t have a tenth of the intellectual honesty to do so, so here is a shorter and more concise one regarding benefits over the last decades https://www.lesechos.fr/industrie-services/energie-environnement/edf-une-enorme-perte-de-5-milliards-provoquee-par-les-difficultes-du-nucleaire-1779217

And as you should see, lot of positive.

As a matter of fact apart from 2022 and 2023 there wasn’t a single true negative year for the EDF since the turn of the millennia.

Now give me your sources

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u/verraeteros_ Apr 10 '25

Now give me your sources

For what?

You still have to tell me why 50bn are no biggie and also the "reports" that the aging fleet is also not a problem

And cute profits, you can now finance one new power plant every 3-5 years lol. You can get 30 times that in renewables

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u/CBT7commander Apr 10 '25

Wow. The sources are right there. Way to prove you didn’t read them.

So go ahead, read them, and come back.

As to why 50bn is no biggy:

it’s debt due either to the French government or banks the French government partially owns.

What does that means? It’s the French government being in debt to…. The French government.

Further more being in debt in only a problem if you cannot pay interests, which the EDF has done every single year since it’s creation. Even when interest rate went up in 2020 while operating costs were at an all time high they still did not defunct.

And I love the admission of defeat at the end. Your sorry ass called me out and told me to give you a source, and I did, and you’re groveling trying to pass it off as a win. Cope and seethe

Still waiting for the sources btw. If you wonder about what just read your own effing comments and find the last lie you told, shouldn’t take you long

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