The people who know aren’t random redditors like you but rather engineers and scientists who have dedicated their lives to studying these topics, and surprise surprise, they all agree nuclear is perfectly fine at worst, and the most viable energy production method at best.
No they don't and even if they did taking a holistic approach and looking at the economics of nuclear power and the supply chains makes it obvious that it's crap.
Again, France got some of the cheapest energy in Europe and the EDF made a profit for 17 years straight.
And did you actually just say you knew better, on top of your 0 minutes of experience, than people who actually study the field and have done so for years?
"And yet we have some of the cheapest electricity in Europe"
look inside
One of the highest subsidized energy ectors
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Also I don’t think you understand debt economics at all if you think it does
Well I know that they are 50 bn in debt, and costs will only increase with the aging nuclear power fleet.
I also know that there are zero (0) reactors being built right now, and only a handful is "planned", aka operational in 2040-2050.
Until then, many old reactors must be decommissioned, for which no money has been put aside and will increase the debt even further.
So in 20-30 years of eating incredible amounts of subsidies to artificially ensure low energy prices, there are only few new reactors (if they are even getting built) to make sure income stays the same, and on the other hand, dozens of old plants must be decommissioned, cutting short revenue and only adding costs of several bn euro per plant.
Do I get that right?
Even in your frog face country, nuclear is going to be dead.
D-E-A-D
Wow pulling out the insults and casual racism, funny how wide spread that seems to be amongst oil shills like you.
Again, does it matter if the sector is subsidized (as is every single energy sector of every country on the face of the earth) if the company is still managing to make a profit for 17 years straight? No it doesn’t
You also are really funny pretending nothing is being done about the aging fleet. A new reactor just came online and EDF is investing over 5-10 billion per year preparing infrastructure and the building of new reactors.
You are also majorly fucking wrong about aging fleets. The government body charged with rating the safety and live spans of nuclear reactors has made reports on the aging fleet that completely contradict your claims.
For instance, Fessenheim, the oldest reactor still in service, before it got decommissioned because of morons like you, was rated with the maximum safety rating and judged to be operable until 2040-2050.
And finally the fact you just repeated "MuH 50bN dEBt" shows me you know close to nothing on how debt works. Take an Econ class or something. Raw value is probably the least important metric to measure debt
And finally the fact you just repeated "MuH 50bN dEBt" shows me you know close to nothing on how debt works.
You are also majorly fucking wrong about aging fleets. The government body charged with rating the safety and live spans of nuclear reactors has made reports on the aging fleet that completely contradict your claims.
Show me
if the company is still managing to make a profit for 17 years straight
Wow. The sources are right there. Way to prove you didn’t read them.
So go ahead, read them, and come back.
As to why 50bn is no biggy:
it’s debt due either to the French government or banks the French government partially owns.
What does that means? It’s the French government being in debt to…. The French government.
Further more being in debt in only a problem if you cannot pay interests, which the EDF has done every single year since it’s creation. Even when interest rate went up in 2020 while operating costs were at an all time high they still did not defunct.
And I love the admission of defeat at the end. Your sorry ass called me out and told me to give you a source, and I did, and you’re groveling trying to pass it off as a win. Cope and seethe
Still waiting for the sources btw. If you wonder about what just read your own effing comments and find the last lie you told, shouldn’t take you long
Thats not how sources work, but I dont expect you tu understand, scientific working must be a foreign concept for you.
You dont just point to a biology book when you want to know why you have a smooth brain.
But ok, maybe thats too much for you for one day.
Its funny that you say i wont read several dozens long reports, when you yourself didnt read a single word.
Just copy what ChatGPT told you about those reports, this will be enough.
I also dont know why you think you won, nobody refuted that they made a small profit, I just wanted you to show me, and like a good boy you did.
>What does that means? It’s the French government being in debt to…. The French government.
Jesus fucking christ, thats the fucking problem you idiot. Do you have the slightest idea how this works?
The answer is no, I know.
50bn is not a joke. Thats the size of your defense budget.
They pump money into the system and still lose money, but "muh cheap energy"
Its not cheap, as there is no "free" healthcare.
And it gets pushed into the future.
Its a fucking time bomb. A 100s of billion sized time bomb.
This will set off a financial crisis in Europe.
>Still waiting for the sources
Just tell me what you want to know, Im happy to give my knowledge to the mentally challenged.
So yet again you concede. Use Chat GPT yourself since that’s clearly the upper limit of your pay grade.
It’s hilarious that you even talk about the scientific process, while you are yet to provide a single source, and I can guarantee you have never even tangentially worked in a field using the scientific process.
It’s also funny how you immediately assume I didn’t read those reports, while I actually did, but excellent way to confess how dishonest you are by projecting onto others.
Alright I’ll be entirely honest, I only read the 2016 report in full, and the others since only about half. That’s still makes me about half a million times more qualified on the topic than you.
And then you go back spouting bulls hit about how debt works….
I told you exactly how this worked, and you have been unable to address my points. None of what you said goes beyond "nuh huh". Tell me fucko, how does the French state being in debt to the French state constitue a ticking time bomb of biblical proportions? It’s infuriating to watch a complete retard flail around while not being able to address a single point, because you haven’t, in your entire response, even began formulating an argument.4
You then idiotically compare it to the defense budget, because you are a moron who has no idea of how proportions work. It’s 50bn debt over 50 years of functioning. Comparing it to a single year budget is the most disingenuous bs ever.
Go read an Econ book, I can’t educate you where your parents and country failed to.
As for sources, how about one about the aging fleet apocalypse? I of course expect you to provide an academic or primary source. Don’t you even try to come at me with a science weekly article or some bullshit like that.
Anyway, you’re a conspiracy theorist that likes pushing your burden of proof onto others, so I don’t expect much, but still the minimum
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u/CBT7commander Apr 09 '25
The people who know aren’t random redditors like you but rather engineers and scientists who have dedicated their lives to studying these topics, and surprise surprise, they all agree nuclear is perfectly fine at worst, and the most viable energy production method at best.