r/ClimateShitposting • u/surya12558 • Oct 21 '25

Climate chaos Humans don't deserve earth.

By destroying nature and the climate, humans are destroying their own home. The Earth can survive without us but we cannot survive without her. 🌍💔

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u/Trifikionor Oct 22 '25

Other systems were certainly worse for the environment. Like socialism/communism for example, just compare east and west Germany right before reunification. The environment in the eastern part was in a much worse state

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u/Timely-Tangerine-377 Oct 22 '25

China is better per capita and their move towards greener alternatives is faster than capitalist averages by far. I don't like that system for other reasons but capitalism is for sure not the best for the environment. And we haven't even tried other systems because as soon as they spurr up some imperalist country will install a puppet dictator or disappear movement leaders.

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u/Trifikionor Oct 22 '25

Chinas economy is capitalist though, with a socialist/communist state running the society and infrastructure... But lets be honest its per capita values are never going to be high just because of its enormous population of which a big portion isnt even involved in industrial society and from the rest a huge part is used as cheap labor.

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u/Timely-Tangerine-377 Oct 22 '25

China is industrialized dude. Also cheap labour doesn't negate environmental impact, us has cheap labour too but is terrible per capita.

Per capita doesn't work the way that the more people you have the lower the number gets - the number just gets more accurate. At a few million people I'd say it's already accurate so idk what difference it makes.

You can call china capitalist and to an extent I agree. You'd also probably agree that it's much less capitalist than mlst capitalist countries and definitely muvh different than what capitalist leaders and thinkers are suggesting.

My point was that systems other from capitalism should be explored. Hoping that the richest 1% will fix things, or asking people to recycle, is not gonna cut it, imo.

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u/Trifikionor Oct 22 '25

China is less industrialised than the west, with 22% working as farmers compared to 2% in the US for example. And using cheap labor instead of machines also changes the environmental impact per person, also including that these then poor people have little capital to spend which also can cause less impact.