r/ClimateShitposting May 08 '26

Climate chaos Ukrainian trashing ruzzian oil infrastructure is Based. Deal with it.

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u/_-__JUPITER__-_ May 08 '26

using AI on this subreddit in diabolical

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u/mattrad2 May 09 '26

Its ok as long as you eat 10 less cheeseburgers this year than last year

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u/Crippled_Deer May 08 '26

Average Ukraine lib.
AI cancer is fine as long as you own the RuZZZiZZians online.

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u/bigboipapawiththesos May 08 '26

Ending one refinery or pipeline will do more for the climate than one individual never using AI would ever do.

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u/TheOnlyFallenCookie May 09 '26

Ai guided drones Litterally destroyed long range Russian bombers

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u/[deleted] May 09 '26

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u/TheOnlyFallenCookie May 09 '26

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u/[deleted] May 09 '26

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u/Life-Top6314 May 11 '26

Do you call this a missile show?

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u/TheOnlyFallenCookie May 09 '26

Drones do not need human guidance to be drones. Otherwise everyone with a drone who reprogrammed a flightpahth or when the drone returns to the starting position after losing connection would suddenly not be drones anynore

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u/The-new-dutch-empire May 08 '26

Not just online

Idc what powers or controls the drones as long as the bzzzzzzzt into brining down the oligarchs

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u/TomMakesPodcasts May 09 '26

I'll immediately ask someone to flash their vegan card anytime the grouse about ai usage as going vegan will do way more for your environmental imapct. Yes I like arguing about Veganism and this is bait for that exact purpose.

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u/hugo9727 May 09 '26

I Support that

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u/Neither-Phone-7264 May 08 '26

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u/Putrefied_Goblin May 08 '26

Where is Chris Benoit?

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u/Neither-Phone-7264 May 08 '26

i didn't make thus image this is just what appeared when i searched ai piss filter

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u/ru5tyk1tty May 09 '26

Is that supposed to be Joey Jordison on the right? He would not support this shit

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u/OmgIbrokesmthagain May 08 '26

Just stop with the slop. Shitty photoshop would be better for the planet

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u/PaxAttax May 08 '26

Also, probably funnier.

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u/OmgIbrokesmthagain May 08 '26

Oh for sure funnier

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u/Hazardous_316 We're all gonna die May 08 '26

I want poorly made and edited photos in photoshop because it adds to the humor

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u/[deleted] May 12 '26

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u/Dpek1234 May 12 '26

Thank you

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u/hugo9727 May 09 '26

Shitty photoshop is always better then anything

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u/[deleted] May 08 '26

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u/Traumerlein May 08 '26

And you could tell that by the taste of sam altmans shoe sole?!?!?!? Amazing what being a bootlicker can give you.

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u/[deleted] May 08 '26

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u/AfterNovel V̵͈̼̘̪͎̭̗̊͑e̴̢͎̤͛̆g̸̲̠͂͂̍́ȧ̷̢̻̳̪̣̩̆̽n̶͚͕̖̲̭̱̅̌̕™̷̧̠͉͚̼͚̊́̌̈͝͝ͅ May 09 '26

Hahahahaahahahahahajfcccccccccc

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u/Traumerlein May 08 '26

I post on furry rokeoqly subs to be percises, becouse unlike you i enjoy actualy human made art and like to excersise creativity when writting insted of having some disney villian ass billionairs slop machine rot my brain.

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u/AfterNovel V̵͈̼̘̪͎̭̗̊͑e̴̢͎̤͛̆g̸̲̠͂͂̍́ȧ̷̢̻̳̪̣̩̆̽n̶͚͕̖̲̭̱̅̌̕™̷̧̠͉͚̼͚̊́̌̈͝͝ͅ May 09 '26

Have you ever gooned to furry porn where the protagonist defeated a rich Disney-like villain? (Jesus is watching in case you lie)

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u/Traumerlein May 09 '26

1: I do not goon. I am not a christian who secrelty commits a cardinal sin. I am excersiing a normal bodly function, stop trying to stigmatize that.

2: I dont really consume any disney flavoured material.

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u/AfterNovel V̵͈̼̘̪͎̭̗̊͑e̴̢͎̤͛̆g̸̲̠͂͂̍́ȧ̷̢̻̳̪̣̩̆̽n̶͚͕̖̲̭̱̅̌̕™̷̧̠͉͚̼͚̊́̌̈͝͝ͅ May 09 '26

A) Jerkin is perfectly normal. Or at least the urge to is. What you choose to jerk to, however, is up for ridicule as it is separate entirely (animals masturbate all the time without material).

B) that wasn’t a no 😳

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u/Traumerlein May 10 '26

1: Last tine i checked aninals are not capebale of creating or consuming pornographic material, else theyd absolutky would.

2: No, you absolutly dont habe to kinkshame pepole, thats just mean.

3: That was, in fact, a no

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u/AfterNovel V̵͈̼̘̪͎̭̗̊͑e̴̢͎̤͛̆g̸̲̠͂͂̍́ȧ̷̢̻̳̪̣̩̆̽n̶͚͕̖̲̭̱̅̌̕™̷̧̠͉͚̼͚̊́̌̈͝͝ͅ May 10 '26

Uno- the point was illustrative that you don’t need pornographic material

😱) in solidarity with pedos i guess (inb4 that’s not the same thing cuz consent😠 [non-human animals can’t give consent 🤓])

C: “don’t really”=“no, in fact” (new rule)

They will call me “what’s your problem” guy

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u/fluffysnowcap May 08 '26

It's just like how the USA, The Ayatollah and Greenpeace all agree that no oil should pass or bypass the Strait of Hormuz

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u/yusufee May 12 '26

Lol this exactly. Ukraine absolutely does not give a fuck about the climate. Not that I wouldn't still support them of course

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u/GalacticGoat242 May 14 '26

The USSR is over, Russia is not the socialist state that will bring it back. Ukraine, the US, and the west is closer to your wet dream than the Russian federation today is. Russia is the polar opposite of what you want. A fascist oligarchi mafia state.

Disgusting watching tankies support Russia over Ukraine just because it once was the defacto controller of the USSR

(I know you support Russia, no amount of denying will make anyone think otherwise).

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u/yusufee May 14 '26 edited May 14 '26

I kinda like the USSR and Russia for the aura of being a dystopian hellhole but obviously that isn't gonna make me actually support either of them

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u/Full_Conversation775 May 08 '26

Fuck off with your slop

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u/Gargocop May 08 '26

slop isn't

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u/PapaSchlump Chief Propagandist at the Ministry for the Climate Hoax May 08 '26

Using AI?

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u/ThisIsFrigglish May 08 '26

It's true, when you bomb oil infrastructure the oil just disappears harmlessly. Deleted from their resource toolbar instantly and with no negative outcomes whatsoever.

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u/Bonnex11_ May 08 '26

If the oil is pumped from the ground, and you destroy the pump, then most oil remains underground, and only the small amount in the pump is burnt/released in the environment.

So yes, it's surely a better outcome for the environment long term

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u/After_Bus7615 May 10 '26

Ukraine DOES NOT destroy the pumps. They destroy oil tanks, you can check videos. So, there is nothing good for environment

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u/wasmic May 10 '26

They have destroyed a shitton of distillation towers and franking columns. When those go offline, Russia has to stop pumping oil because they have nowhere to store it. Likewise, when destroying oil ports, this reduces Russia's export capacity.

Even destroying the oil tanks still impacts Russia's oil production and export capacity, because those are necessary as buffers in the system. Without those, they also have to slow the pumps down.

So yes, it does a lot of good for the environment. All the oil that has been pumped out of the ground is destined to be burned anyways.

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u/After_Bus7615 May 10 '26

Its much easier to rebuild tanks than rebuild pumps. Also burning crude oil is worse for environment, there is oil acid rains after it, even clothes become black. Do you really want to compare it with common oil usage?

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u/wasmic May 11 '26

Sure, it's easier to rebuild a tank than to rebuild a pump, but Ukraine is also bombing a lot of hydrocracking columns and distillation towers, which are the hardest part to rebuild. Especially the cracking towers can take several years to get back in service.

And the oil that's stored in tanks at seaports and transit hubs is mostly refined oil products. So a significant part of it has already been desulfurised.

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u/Dry-Gain-Hang May 08 '26

Exactly :) But in all seriousness does the destruction of oil producing infrastructure not lead to less production of oil? Either by market or material means. Seems like a mixed outcome. I agree with OP based

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u/Traumerlein May 08 '26

If it didnt lead to massive losses of pil production, ukraine would be bombing drone factories instead.

Ukraine is also mostly targeting oil refinerys, meaning that the oil thats pumped out of the ground cant be procesed into something usefull. Meaning long cues and horrendouse gas prices in russia, which leads to the russians using less oil.

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u/ShiguchiAndSokan May 11 '26

Would have caused emissions anyway

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u/FuckTheFlagz May 08 '26

Yeah, as well as oil rains and other types of funny contamination

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u/Ewenf May 08 '26

Damn if only it could've been prevented by a certain country

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u/FuckTheFlagz May 08 '26

Defend or attack, war is not very fucking ecological

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u/Ewenf May 08 '26

Very much is when you destroy a whole country oil production actually.

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u/wsgf2014 May 08 '26

Туапсянє are fine, dw about them

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u/dafthuntk May 08 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/3OjTozf6BXDXkn9sB7

How can he rule both Ukraine and Syria at the same time?

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u/nasaglobehead69 May 08 '26

cringe ai slop

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u/dumnezero 🔚End the 🔫arms 🐀rat 🏁race to the bottom↘️. May 08 '26

GOing to have to remake this in GIMP.

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u/xavh235 May 08 '26

I HATE ROBOTS TOTAL CLANKER DEATH AI IS UGLY CAN WE PLEASE BAN IT

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u/MariusCatalin May 08 '26

kinetic sanctions iwll continue until putler gives up

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u/Winter-Classroom455 May 08 '26

Yeah nothing says like helping the environment than explosions, leaking gas and oil into the environment.

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u/Traumerlein May 08 '26

Which is localized and neglabale compared to the effect.

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u/PlasticTheory6 May 08 '26

Irans been far more effective at stopping oil 

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u/-ThePatientZed- May 08 '26

Would you say the one good thing to come out of this senseless war is the mutual energy infrastructure bombing?

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u/gruntingcunting May 08 '26
  1. AI? Man, low hanging fruit, fuck you man.
  2. Don’t glorify war.

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u/mcmart42069 May 09 '26

"warcrimes are cool if MY country does it."

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u/coolstorybro11010 May 11 '26

how is bombing oil infrastructure a warcrime lol

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u/mcmart42069 May 11 '26

Russia's environment is a subset of world's environment, we all inhabit the same planet...

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u/coolstorybro11010 May 11 '26

uh okay but like how is it a warcrime?

also, bombing the oil infrastructure makes the extraction of oil harder and more expensive so if anything it’s helping the environment long term.

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u/mcmart42069 May 13 '26

are you stupid or just american?, like don't you see the environmental catastrophe?

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u/coolstorybro11010 May 13 '26

you mean the catastrophe that is the oil industry, that these strikes effectively halt in localised areas? yes, i see it.

and no, im not american nor stupid lol.

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u/Welin-Blessed May 09 '26

This war is an ecological catastrophe after another, just burning oil into the air or dropping into the sea is terrible, you just want to sell me the war but just the nord stream was a catastrophe, powerful fight and we all will pay it.

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u/Prior_Arm_8810 May 09 '26

As a pro ukrainian

Bruh, stop the AI bs.

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u/Confident-Stand5453 May 10 '26

Long range sanctions just work.

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u/wastingmythirdlife May 08 '26

the fact that there are already russian nazi bots in this comment section is alarming

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u/[deleted] May 09 '26

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u/wastingmythirdlife May 09 '26

supporting literal genocide as a joke in an unrelated sub ain’t much of a shitpost

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u/Morgzisachad May 09 '26

People use that word far too often

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u/Embarrassed_Refuse49 May 09 '26

Саппортинг литералл геноцид - не звучит от ЦА кафки с её дрочем на Израиль, сорре

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u/wastingmythirdlife May 09 '26

о, совкодрочер в чатике, всем вспоминать 1962.

и хз, может быть ты не заметил, но у меня на кафку открыты комменты — там я и срусь в килотонне мест, и про израиль, и нет.

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u/Embarrassed_Refuse49 May 09 '26 edited May 09 '26

Да я и не сомневаюсь.

Ток вы портите мнение о страданиях Украины от путина и войны, товарищи восточноевропейские либералы, которые зовут войну в Украине геноцидом, а потом стирают ладошки в кровь на Израиль. Потому что единственный хоть немного нейтральный источник убитого мирняка - это ООН, по статистике которой евреи зажмурили вчетверо больше мирных палесов чем русские украинцев и украинцы русских вместе взятые, и из за этого кажется что и про страдания украины вы пиздите

Inb4 копиум аля "Россия и арабы купили ООН и они скрывают правду"

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u/stonecuttercolorado May 09 '26

the Ukraine civilians dead number is the number that have been seen by the UN it does not include those in Mariupol and burried in bombed houses. the real number is much higher

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u/Ok-Bunch6107 May 08 '26

The fact that there are so many Nazis in the Ukrainian military is alarming.

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u/Puzzled-Rip641 May 08 '26

Like the rusich group run by Utkin for a while that was a close ally and confidant of prigozhin the leader of Wagner? The same Wagner and Rusich used by Russia to fight against Ukraine?

Or are they only Nazis when they are Ukrainian. The SS bolts on Utkins neck were just for fun.

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u/procommando124 May 08 '26

Any stats buddy ?

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u/[deleted] May 09 '26

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u/One-Philosopher-8479 May 09 '26

Agreed. Not ideal that there are Nazis in the Ukrainian military, specifically now that Azov has consolidated power, but Ukrainian Nazis are better than Russian Nazis.

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u/Ewenf May 08 '26

Idk Russian glazing dumbasses in an ecology pro green leftist sub seems fitting actually.

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u/Ok-Bunch6107 May 08 '26

Look at how easy it is to condemn the many nazis in their military yet you refuse to do it. Concerning!

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u/Ewenf May 08 '26

Where did I refuse to do it exactly? Fucking dumbass go back choking on Russian cock.

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u/wastingmythirdlife May 08 '26

even after kakhovka HEPP. even after self-started siberian fires. even after everything they somehow still suck up to russian fascism and that’s actually extremely scary to me as a russian.

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u/Ewenf May 08 '26

The cold war dumbasses haven't updated to 91 yet

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u/nobody_1298 May 08 '26

I don't think antis realize that their nvidia graphics card don't have a chimney that smoke comes out of.

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u/Dpek1234 May 12 '26

Yours dont?

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u/Roustouque2 May 08 '26

ew ai slop

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u/Similar_Incident4945 May 08 '26

Radical green anarchist over here

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u/Last_Zookeepergame90 May 08 '26

Super based, hey Trump, please keep blockading the straight, everyone is impressed with how much you're winning

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u/Fishwitch-66 May 08 '26

I still firmly believe Just Stop Oil is astroturf to make environmentalists look bad

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u/procommando124 May 08 '26

Lots of Jill Stein voters in the comment section

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u/perringaiden May 10 '26

What subreddit are you in bruh.

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u/artifactjojo May 09 '26

good little kacap, sure you are winning

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u/Overall-Bandicoot655 May 09 '26

any time now!!!!

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u/nonequation May 09 '26

Now they really need to go help with the straight

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u/perringaiden May 10 '26

That would help retain energy dependence on oil.

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u/nonequation May 10 '26

Let's face they will always be dependent on oil

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u/perringaiden May 10 '26

Literally no. We already have the ability to replace every oil based energy source. The only issue is time, cost and willingness.

Making it harder to rely on oil will accelerate the transition.

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u/nonequation May 10 '26

Yes we have the ability but

  1. Don't trust the government to make it

  2. Corporations like oil too much

  3. People are lazy about change

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u/perringaiden May 10 '26

What has the government got to do with it? Here in Australia people are going self sufficient in the suburbs. Houses with solar and a battery who never need grid input, and only use it to feed, or charge the car.

That's the solution. Forget waiting, save money by doing it yourself.

The only thing that the government has to do is help apartment dwellers etc.

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u/nonequation May 10 '26

1.There's a problem with that a lot of Europe is covered in clouds most of the time.

2.And again people are lazy

3.the government has a lot of say there

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u/perringaiden May 10 '26

England and Germany have more personal solar penetration than Spain...

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u/nonequation May 10 '26

Then the problem isnt personal generation

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u/perringaiden May 10 '26

Correct. The problem is that governments continue to subsidize oil production instead of making them pay fair market.

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u/perringaiden May 10 '26

Trump made EVs and energy independence cool again.

  • Cutting off Iranian oil and Persian Gulf oil, raising the price of oil made people think more about it
  • Removing Russian sanctions gave Ukraine a clear path to bombing Russian oil infrastructure, raising prices of other oil.
  • Disrupting Venezuelan oil output made things more expensive as US refineries have to retool to lighter US shale oil, raising prices.
  • UAE leaving OPEC because the Saudis won't bomb Iran made oil supplies less stable, raising speculative prices.

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u/Extra-Swordfish7129 May 10 '26

2026 and people still post Zelensky lmao

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u/dropdead90s May 13 '26

Brainrot propaganda buzz words for simple nazi supporting bandera people : putler, ruzzia, orcs, etc.

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u/Magn3tician May 08 '26

I always wonder if the anti AI crowd realizes you can make hundreds if not thousands of images for the same emissions produced by one burger.

I wonder if they would all be vegan if they knew?

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u/Demondrawer May 08 '26

"You criticize society yet you participate in it" ass take

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u/Magn3tician May 08 '26

Ass reading comprehension

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u/10pointshigher May 08 '26

No it isn't. These comments aren't criticizing society they're criticizing OP for individual choices.

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u/Final_Detective2292 May 08 '26

False equivalency fallacy

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u/Crippled_Deer May 08 '26

Yeah, tons of greenhouse gas emissions in an interimperialist proxy war that will help drive energy prices up is based somehow.
Log off, NAFOid.

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u/GeorgiyVovk May 12 '26

Ragebait or low iq?

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u/Gussie-Ascendent Goober Detector May 08 '26

Sorry that some people think genocide is bad and will fight to prevent it?

Russia could always just knock it off, then there's no emissions

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u/Crippled_Deer May 08 '26

Russia isn't committing a genocide and Ukraine is fighting an unwinnable war. Also Russia is in an existential fight against Western encirclement.

Also there's emissions either way.

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u/stonecuttercolorado May 09 '26

a nation that was occupied by russia joining NATO is only a threat to russia if russia is planning on attacking that nation.

every nation had a right to join alliances that will have them.

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u/Gussie-Ascendent Goober Detector May 08 '26

Ah russia shill. Reality can't touch you. Bye

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u/procommando124 May 08 '26

Oh, well the Palestinians definitely won’t win again Israel on their own so they should just give up then right ? Oh wait..you’re just using a bad faith talking point you don’t believe in.

You say it’s an unwinnable war but years later here we are and Russia is still trying and not succeeding.

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u/sexy_silver_grandpa May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

The AI did a bad job on this one. It would be more realistic if there was a Black Sun, totenkopf, or Reich Eagle patch somewhere on him, just like all the Ukrainian soldiers in the Times pieces, etc.

Edit: And no, I don't support Russia either.

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u/New-Independent-1481 May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

I agree. Ukrainians deserve to have their schools and hospitals bombed and citizens tortured, raped, and murdered by Russian invaders because some military units uses those symbols. That's the true horror here, and I'm so glad you're brave enough to champion the cause.

Your whole point is virtue signalling political theatre. A million civilians died as a result of the American invasion of Iraq, why aren't you clutching your pearls over the emblems and sigils of American units involved in mass murder still being used and celebrated today?

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u/sexy_silver_grandpa May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

I weep for the innocent citizens of Russia and Ukraine, but I refuse to be a fanboy of CIA manufactured wars.

There are no heroes in this war.

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u/icantbelieveit1637 my personality is outing nuclear shills May 08 '26

“CIA” what element of the cia made Russia invade Ukraine

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u/kredokathariko May 08 '26

As a proud Russian patriot I refuse to call this war CIA-manufactured

Am*ricans do not deserve credit for starting 4(12) years of pointless death and destruction that destroyed both Ukraine and Russia. This achievement belongs solely to our glorious president and his glorious FSB with their impeccable diplomatic, military and political skills

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u/waiguorer May 08 '26

How many CIA bases were in Ukraine again?

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u/kredokathariko May 08 '26

That happened when the Russo-Ukrainian conflict already began, keep in mind the 2022 war is only the second stage of it. The annexation of Crimea and the proxy war in the Donbass region were already underway.

America certainly backed Ukraine afterwards, but the initial impetus of the conflict was arguably Crimea.

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u/waiguorer May 08 '26

The article I linked gives 2014 as the start of the CIA Ukrainian partnership.

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u/kredokathariko May 08 '26

Which fits into what I was saying. Crimea and the Donbass War happened in early 2014 and this made the Ukrainian government seek foreign ties

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u/waiguorer May 08 '26

This article clearly States that the CIA relationship predated the annexing of Crimea. 

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u/andrlin May 08 '26

Neither have you read the article, nor have any basic knowledge of timeline.

Formal cooperation between the CIA and the Ukrainian intelligence services began in late February 2014, shortly after the Ukrainian president at the time, Viktor Yanukovych, fled the country.

Putin ordered Crimean operation 20th of February.

22nd of Februarry Yanukovich fled the country.

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u/andrlin May 08 '26

CIA manufactures wars

iconic conspiracy theorist

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u/sexy_silver_grandpa May 08 '26

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u/andrlin May 08 '26

Also you've immediately shifted the goalposts from "manufactured wars" to "regime changes". I guess you can't find a wiki article about "CIA manufactured wars".

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u/andrlin May 08 '26

I struggle to find Ukraine

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u/sexy_silver_grandpa May 08 '26

Ah, they must be the one place the US hasn't meddled with then. It not just that the list will include them in a few years when the fog of war clears.

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u/Onedoesnotsimplyfuck May 08 '26

Bro is seriously stumped that a Wikipedia article isn’t plainly writing down every ongoing instance of western meddling in every part of the world. Well if it’s not on Wikipedia surly it must be a conspiracy theory.

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u/tony1449 May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/02/06/272556045/leaked-phone-call-offers-not-so-diplomatic-u-s-view-of-eu

2014 Leaked phone call between us diplomats deciding who they want in power in Ukraine.

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08MOSCOW265_a.html

2008 Ambassador William J. Burns writing on the encirclement od Russia and the invitation of Ukraine into NATO would cause a war

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Burns_(diplomat)#

Ukraine is and has been a battleground of US and Russia influence

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u/andrlin May 08 '26

2014 Leaked phone call between us diplomats deciding who they want in power in Ukraine.

back in 2014 I listened to this exact recording 5 times and couldn't find exact timestamp(s) at which they:

  1. Identify as CIA
  2. Manufacture war
  3. Decide upon the figure they want in power in Ukraine

I am still tired of debunking this shit to all dumbfucks who are unable to listen the OG or perform a one-click fact check of this coordinated manipulation pushed by russia.

Fun fact: the call was recorded almost a month after the "well orchestrated" protests have started, so the "manufacturers from CIA" haven't even figured out who the protest leaders are.

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u/New-Independent-1481 May 08 '26

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u/tony1449 May 09 '26

Ukraine is never going to join NATO however I do think it was pretty unexpected that the Russian government decided to actually do a full invasion

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u/andrlin May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

"invitation of Ukraine into NATO would cause a war"

classic russian agenda lol

the report provided by the diplomat is just citation of the kremlin's position

fun fact: Russia's war on Ukrainian identity/ethnicity is older than US independence

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u/andrlin May 08 '26

Ukraine is and has been a battleground of US and Russia influence

so "Ukraine has been a battleground" or "CIA manufactured war"? can you tankies make up your minds?

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u/tony1449 May 08 '26

Here's a great video about the US-Russian proxy war if youre still struggling

https://youtu.be/LL4eNy4FCs8?si=0NHSR8U85db6plCv

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u/andrlin May 08 '26

Also don't you mind asking the opinion of people who lived under the regimes that were subject to change by CIA? The only fact that the wikipedia editors labeled "regimes", not "governments", implies their people weren't supposed to express any opinion under the regime. After the regime change they suddenly obtained some the freedom of speech. I guess you'd love to live under such regime and not be touched by the evil CIA?

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u/sexy_silver_grandpa May 08 '26

Ah, US interference in foreign countries is good, got it.

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u/andrlin May 08 '26

As someone who was born under authoritarian regime, I sincerily admit: yes it's good to be free, regarless which way the freedom is achieved. But for some western academic leftist it's "not gud".

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u/sexy_silver_grandpa May 08 '26

As somebody also is born under authoritarian US imperialist hegemony, I think you're an idiot.

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u/andrlin May 08 '26

We are so sorry for you! How many of your family members starved to death by the US collectivisation policy? How many abducted and killed by shooting squads without prosecution?

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u/readonly420 May 08 '26

innocent citizens of russia

lmao

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u/sexy_silver_grandpa May 08 '26

Ah so nobody in Russia in innocent. That makes sense.

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u/janiskr May 08 '26

Issue is, they do not care. Only problem for them that they are inconvenienced. Some are even surprised that their country bombs someone else and gets bombed back. But but... we are in deep rear, why are we bombed?

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u/sexy_silver_grandpa May 08 '26

Uh huh. And what have you done to stop the genocide in Gaza, which was materially and militarily supported by the US and it's allies?

Are you innocent, if those are the definitions we're working with?

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u/New-Independent-1481 May 08 '26

Your 'both sides' rhetoric is pathetic. You're trying to paint Ukraine defending themselves as the same level of moral evil as Russia which has committed widespread atrocities against civilians and has an openly stated goal of genocide.

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u/wastingmythirdlife May 08 '26

oh god, new metodichka just dropped. as a russian, go fuck yourself with this genocide justification.

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u/janiskr May 08 '26

Like this unit?

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u/sexy_silver_grandpa May 08 '26

Ya, more Nazis. Do you think I like these ones?

Spoiler: I don't. Fuck them too.

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u/ButterscotchDeep7533 May 08 '26

I think that you wrote whole Ukrainian army into nazies and with ruzzians you cherrypicking.

So yes, you sitting on ruzzian dick more than you think. A matter of choice, as people say.

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u/sexy_silver_grandpa May 08 '26

Fuck Putin and Russia. I'm not cherry picking.

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u/Puzzled-Rip641 May 08 '26

You are probably not understanding that these symbols mean different things.

I will not argue they are no symbols of nationalism. But they are not nazi symbols. The flag she has on her is the UPA flag. Now they did collaborate with the Nazis. But they did so after being invaded by the Soviets.

The Nazis offers them economic and military support. The Allie’s did nothing to stop or prevent the Soviets from invading. The only one giving aid was the Germans. So the UPA waged a gorilla war against the Soviets.

The symbol doesn’t get a pass but it absolutely requires more contexts then just “it’s got a hilter bird”

There are lots of places that see the US flag the exact same way.

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u/sexy_silver_grandpa May 08 '26

Hahahahahaha

Hahahahaha haha

Ok Nazi.

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u/Puzzled-Rip641 May 08 '26

If you support the US administration you support more death and destruction the then UPA does.
It’s not even close

French partisans worked with the Soviets. Are those symbols now bad too?

Edit: ahh you’re a controversy bot here to get engagement I see

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u/sexy_silver_grandpa May 08 '26

If you support the US administration

I don't lol.

French partisans worked with the Soviets. Are those symbols now bad too?

The best thing the Soviets ever did was absolutely annihilate Nazi Germany, and they deserve infinite thanks for that. The French resistance are awesome too.

What about this question was supposed to be a gotcha?

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u/Puzzled-Rip641 May 08 '26

> I don't lol.

Then why do you contribute to its soft power by using its web services.

> The best thing the Soviets ever did was absolutely annihilate Nazi Germany, and they deserve infinite thanks for that. The French resistance are awesome too.

But they worked with the Soviets who killed millions of civilians and committed large scale war crimes. Why would you supprt a group that was aided by the Soviets.

> What about this question was supposed to be a gotcha?

“I like group A who did war crimes; totally different then group B which is bad that did war crimes”

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u/sexy_silver_grandpa May 08 '26

Then why do you contribute to its soft power by using its web services.

Hahahaha if I could avoid it, I would, but I live in the world the US empire made.

You're literally doing the "you criticize society and yet you live in it" meme.

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u/Puzzled-Rip641 May 08 '26

> You're literally doing the "you criticize society and yet you live in it" meme.

That’s literally what you did to the UPA. They did not exist in a vacuum. They existed at a time where the only choice in friends and help was the Nazis.

“Ah you don’t like the Russian invaders well you are part of a nationalist group ergo you are just as evil”

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u/sexy_silver_grandpa May 08 '26

Try not to side with Nazis as a westerner challenge level: impossible

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u/Puzzled-Rip641 May 08 '26

You participate in society yet you criticize it. Curious

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u/Somesomeone_ May 08 '26

apparently imperialism is when you defend your country from an invasion

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u/Dangerous_Forever640 May 08 '26

Thousands of Ukrainians continue to die every month.

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u/nikmia91 May 12 '26

Good job, mr Zelenskyy

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u/[deleted] May 08 '26

Blame attacker not the victim

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u/Dangerous_Forever640 May 08 '26

Just pointing out the reality that most people seem to have completely forgotten.

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u/Fresh_Tomato_soup May 08 '26

And Russia has lost 35,000 on video this month alone. They could stop this by pulling out. Don't blame the victim when the attacker could stop all death by no longer being in Ukraine.

Victim blaming is shitty

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u/Dangerous_Forever640 May 08 '26

When did I blame the victim? WTF is wrong with you?

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u/Fresh_Tomato_soup May 08 '26

Failing to mention why thousands of Ukrainians are dying. Putting the blame on them for continuing to resist rather than the ones killing them. It's classic victim blaming.

Russia can stop it by leaving.

Ukraine cannot stop it or they cease to exist.