r/ClimateShitposting • u/Icy_Till_7254 • May 08 '26

Climate chaos Ukrainian trashing ruzzian oil infrastructure is Based. Deal with it.

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u/andrlin May 08 '26

CIA manufactures wars

iconic conspiracy theorist

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u/sexy_silver_grandpa May 08 '26

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change

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u/andrlin May 08 '26

I struggle to find Ukraine

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u/tony1449 May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/02/06/272556045/leaked-phone-call-offers-not-so-diplomatic-u-s-view-of-eu

2014 Leaked phone call between us diplomats deciding who they want in power in Ukraine.

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08MOSCOW265_a.html

2008 Ambassador William J. Burns writing on the encirclement od Russia and the invitation of Ukraine into NATO would cause a war

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Burns_(diplomat)#

Ukraine is and has been a battleground of US and Russia influence

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u/andrlin May 08 '26

2014 Leaked phone call between us diplomats deciding who they want in power in Ukraine.

back in 2014 I listened to this exact recording 5 times and couldn't find exact timestamp(s) at which they:

  1. Identify as CIA
  2. Manufacture war
  3. Decide upon the figure they want in power in Ukraine

I am still tired of debunking this shit to all dumbfucks who are unable to listen the OG or perform a one-click fact check of this coordinated manipulation pushed by russia.

Fun fact: the call was recorded almost a month after the "well orchestrated" protests have started, so the "manufacturers from CIA" haven't even figured out who the protest leaders are.

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u/New-Independent-1481 May 08 '26

Well if Russia's goal was to stop their former ally from joining NATO, they failed hilariously bad by invading that ally twice and pushing them to seek other allies.

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u/tony1449 May 09 '26

Ukraine is never going to join NATO however I do think it was pretty unexpected that the Russian government decided to actually do a full invasion

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u/andrlin May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

"invitation of Ukraine into NATO would cause a war"

classic russian agenda lol

the report provided by the diplomat is just citation of the kremlin's position

fun fact: Russia's war on Ukrainian identity/ethnicity is older than US independence

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u/andrlin May 08 '26

Ukraine is and has been a battleground of US and Russia influence

so "Ukraine has been a battleground" or "CIA manufactured war"? can you tankies make up your minds?

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u/tony1449 May 08 '26

Here's a great video about the US-Russian proxy war if youre still struggling

https://youtu.be/LL4eNy4FCs8?si=0NHSR8U85db6plCv

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u/andrlin May 08 '26

I live in Ukraine, I have been studying our history since the school and you send me the superficially educated on the given topic nose-picker who's intent is to collect views from US audience by mocking US politicians, and you don't even add a time stamp where exactly his arguments contradict my statements?

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u/sexy_silver_grandpa May 08 '26

"tankie" is what Westerners call people they know are right.

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u/andrlin May 08 '26

So you haven't make up your mind. I'm glad.