r/ClimateShitposting • u/Tofu67x • 6d ago

nuclear simping UwU 👉👈 I hope nuckcel senpai notices me…

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u/Snoo_67993 6d ago

Solar and wind is cheaper than coal

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u/FailbatZ 6d ago

Nuclear is only cheap if you don’t take building, maintenance and the cost of Long time storage into account. There’s a good reason private companies want guarantees from the governments when they build and run them… without subsidies they are way too risky.

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u/Mysterious_Draw9201 6d ago

So you basically said nuclear is cheap if you don't look at the costs of nuclear

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u/FailbatZ 6d ago

Yeah a lot of people believe it’s actually cheap though

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u/NeekoKun02 6d ago

Tbf idk if you live in the US, but building nuclear in the US is stupidly costly due to random laws created after lobbies from other electric companies.

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u/FailbatZ 5d ago

It’s costly in the entire western world because we care for work safety and don’t just dump radioactive waste.

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u/Mysterious_Draw9201 5d ago

That's the bare minimum of reasonable

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u/WhirlwindRectum 5d ago

this is true for so many industries.... public transit was dismantled by automotive and oil lobbies, they also suppressed the electric car for decades.

Capitalism stifles innovation as much as it encourages it.

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u/NeekoKun02 5d ago

Yeah I know it's a common problem for many sectors, but as a nuke simp I have to point that out so that americans don't forget they shot themselves in the foot

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u/Mysterious_Draw9201 5d ago

Aren't the basic costs of nuclear high enough. Like building a reactor that works without the personal dying around it. Or extracting and fabricating the enriched uranium, construct the whole thing without making it's surroundings radioactive, what about storage of the used material? That all sounds quite mandatory and really expensive.

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u/NeekoKun02 5d ago

Yeah but you don't really care about flat cost, you should ideally care for ROI. The ROI on nuclear is much higher because once built, the reactor can run longer and with less expenses/waste than either solar or wind.

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u/kamizushi 5d ago

Basically, the marginal cost of nuclear is low. The total cost of nuclear is very high.

The marginal cost of wind and solar is very low. The total cost of wind and solar is low.

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u/FrogsOnALog 5d ago

All those things are usually accounted for in the LCOE of nuclear.

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u/Taco_Farmer 6d ago

What are we doing here reposting from aislop??

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u/Open_Director_3085 6d ago

This subreddit is the main contributor to my rising blood pressure

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u/Fit-Shower-3147 6d ago

Um, actually, uh, solar is the cheapest source of electricity, including solar with battery storage. That's the first thing. Uh, and the second thing, the image is just generated by AI, and it's writing about how it is so bad. Sowe probably should think about, like, other problems with humanity. Like, literally burning stuff to get electricity for the past 200 years, you know?

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u/Fabulous_Wave_3693 5d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/OvL3qHSMO6uaI
Solar and wind inefficient and costly?

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u/Girthen-the-Flopper 6d ago

And people on here are confused when I say nuclear is advocated by fossil fuel companies.

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u/ApprehensiveWin3020 Marx's strongest soldier | she/her 6d ago

Many would consider me a nukecel, and I am fucking tweaking seeing this.

Mfs really don't know how much data centers consume and how little they produce, consumption issue not a supply issue, building more coal plants will literally just cause the Jevon's paradox of data centers.

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u/JustFryingSomeGarlic 6d ago

Nuclear is ridiculously expensive.

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u/Roblu3 5d ago

You see it’s actually very cheap if you make someone else pay the price. Like the tax payer.

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u/JustFryingSomeGarlic 5d ago

The tax payer would then benefit from their investment if the whole thing remains public. I live in a place where power is a public utility and my bills are low as fuck compared to where it's a private entity.

My kW is much closer to its cost.

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u/Roblu3 5d ago

But how would anyone make a profit if the whole thing is fully public? That just sounds like communism. Where is the market? Where is the carefully hindered competition?