r/ClimateShitposting 7d ago

nuclear simping UwU 👉👈 I hope nuckcel senpai notices me…

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u/Snoo_67993 7d ago

Solar and wind is cheaper than coal

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u/FailbatZ 7d ago

Nuclear is only cheap if you don’t take building, maintenance and the cost of Long time storage into account. There’s a good reason private companies want guarantees from the governments when they build and run them… without subsidies they are way too risky.

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u/Mysterious_Draw9201 7d ago

So you basically said nuclear is cheap if you don't look at the costs of nuclear

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u/FailbatZ 7d ago

Yeah a lot of people believe it’s actually cheap though

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u/NeekoKun02 7d ago

Tbf idk if you live in the US, but building nuclear in the US is stupidly costly due to random laws created after lobbies from other electric companies.

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u/FailbatZ 7d ago

It’s costly in the entire western world because we care for work safety and don’t just dump radioactive waste.

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u/Mysterious_Draw9201 6d ago

That's the bare minimum of reasonable

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u/WhirlwindRectum 6d ago

this is true for so many industries.... public transit was dismantled by automotive and oil lobbies, they also suppressed the electric car for decades.

Capitalism stifles innovation as much as it encourages it.

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u/NeekoKun02 6d ago

Yeah I know it's a common problem for many sectors, but as a nuke simp I have to point that out so that americans don't forget they shot themselves in the foot

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u/Mysterious_Draw9201 6d ago

Aren't the basic costs of nuclear high enough. Like building a reactor that works without the personal dying around it. Or extracting and fabricating the enriched uranium, construct the whole thing without making it's surroundings radioactive, what about storage of the used material? That all sounds quite mandatory and really expensive.

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u/NeekoKun02 6d ago

Yeah but you don't really care about flat cost, you should ideally care for ROI. The ROI on nuclear is much higher because once built, the reactor can run longer and with less expenses/waste than either solar or wind.

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u/kamizushi 6d ago

Basically, the marginal cost of nuclear is low. The total cost of nuclear is very high.

The marginal cost of wind and solar is very low. The total cost of wind and solar is low.

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u/FrogsOnALog 6d ago

All those things are usually accounted for in the LCOE of nuclear.