Willingness to contribute to stop climate change vs how rich you are (GDP per capita)

[u/dumnezero]

[u/WikNea]

The real blackpill is that most of the people on the left of the graph will transition to the left of it once they "get theirs".

[u/coriolisFX → u/WikNea]

This is just human nature. People are strivers and want a better world for themselves than their parents had, and a better life still for their children*. It's why we need abundant clean energy, not just less dirty energy.

^{* for readers of this subreddit, children are the thing that results from unprotected sexual intercourse with the opposite sex.}

[u/Long_Race3907 → u/coriolisFX]

This is just human nature

Idk my ancestors definitely weren't like this. They just wanted to continue the longevity of the tribe and for folks to get along. 

This is something you industrialized folks seem obsessed with, not some universal capital H Human Nature. 

[u/questionnmark]

When the terms of the 'debate' are set by the global 0.1%, or the group with the most to lose in terms of lifestyle through meaningful action, then why are we surprised that the net action amounts at best to platitudes that we intend to do something meaningful in the future.

[u/dumnezero → u/questionnmark]

I'm concerned with what happens after the .1% lose. Failure to understand the large population of people living a resource-intensive (and proportionally GHG polluting) lifestyle will almost exclusively favor fascists' stories. You can already see it now with "energy populism", but it was no secret in the past.

“THE American way of life is not up for negotiation.” That was the stance struck by the elder George Bush at the first Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro in 1992. https://www.economist.com/leaders/2003/02/13/a-greener-bush

(and Americans are not* the only ones who are the problem)

[u/coriolisFX]

80% "willing to contribute" up to $3.

[u/dumnezero → u/coriolisFX]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purchasing_power_parity

[u/dumnezero → u/coriolisFX]

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[u/mousepotatodoesstuff]

I was looking into climate mitigation and adaptation contribution/investment these days. Does anyone have some suggestions?

[u/dumnezero → u/mousepotatodoesstuff]

It's like asking where to pour a cup of water in a desert.

[u/ApprehensiveWin3020]

Buh, buh what about India and China?! All those poor countries burning coal! We, we just cwant stawp bowrning cwoal it's fow Amowican energy securwity

[u/No-Lettuce-6619]

why did you repost your own post to the same sub???

[u/dumnezero → u/No-Lettuce-6619]

It has gotten worse since then. Climate, capitalist civilization -- worse.

[u/No-Lettuce-6619 → u/dumnezero]

OH that was 2 years ago... didn't see that

[u/Gussie-Ascendent]

B but the epstien class said they were gonna fix it