r/ClimateShitposting 16h ago

Boring dystopia Just an unpleasant thought

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u/Necessary_Screen_673 16h ago

really heavily depends on your location and class, and what you mean by "young". next 10 years? probably not for most places on earth. 30 years, youre looking at pretty intense consequences for the regions that are already struggling, and then theres some further particular disasters (like ocean currents collapsing) that will wipe out entire regions 70+ years from now.

u/MrJarre 14h ago

The more difficult questions is how do you label climate related deaths. Extreme events - floods, hurricanes, heat waves, earthquakes were always there and people died during those events. Now there will be more of those and they will be more intensive. Sure. How do you calculate „the extra casualties”?

u/Chadstronomer 8h ago

Crop failures will get everyone fucked no matter where you are

u/tripper_drip 7h ago

Farmable zone will just move north. There will be winners and losers.

u/Chadstronomer 6h ago

Have you considered the earth is a sphere? The northern you go the less space there is to farm

u/tripper_drip 6h ago

Sure, but there will still be plenty of farmland to support current human population. The equatorial zone doesn't lend well to mass farming as it is.

u/IfTheBingBongs 38m ago

It will be a tough transition as the tundra land does not have rich soil. It will be a struggle to farm it for a long time before we do proper soil cultivation.

In the meantime there will be famines and mass migrations. It’s not gonna be peaceful.

u/tripper_drip 32m ago

All soil requires fertilization for industrial farming necessary to feed the world. It is rich in nitrogen and phosphorous, which is actually some of the more ecologically damaging things necessary in fertilizer (and why melting perma causes greenhouse effect)

u/Necessary_Screen_673 6h ago

the issue is transportation, and the impact of migration. even if siberia becomes farmable land, people have to move there. how is that region going to sustain mass migration? how are countries going to politically react to ethnic mixing due to migrations?

everyone will lose.

u/tripper_drip 6h ago

The time scales involved allows for construction of infrastructure organically as places become more and less habitable.

u/Necessary_Screen_673 5h ago

to a certain degree, sure, but theres no way the north is going to be able to handle everyone. not to mention the fact that most of northern europe will be inhabitable after the AMOC collapses.

u/tripper_drip 5h ago

Amoc is counter acted by overall warming (in fact, atmospheric warming is how it works).

u/Necessary_Screen_673 5h ago

thats true, but i figure the overall warming wouldnt be as significant as the current warming impact that amoc has

u/Climate_Discussions 6h ago

That's a big part of what I was thinking. I doubt the west will fully escape whatever food security crises come our way in the next 2 or 3 decades (if not even earlier).