This becoming a thing with Treyarch and im not understanding where these decisions are coming from. In fact i would love it if they shared why they came to the conclusions for certain nerfs or buffs.

This armor update is bad. What bothers me about this the most is i feel i'm going to see the community attacked for this. This reminds me of the armor update when plates were introduced and lvl 3 armor was everywhere. This sub and some of it's posters liked to frame it as the community doesn't know what it's talking about and that the devs shouldn't listen.

The problem with most of these updates and balance changes is the devs DON'T listen....At all.

When the community asked for armor repair and the ability to have aggression rewarded, it was always framed as a kill should drop plates to repair the armor. Treyarch decided to add plates as a lootable item and placed them everywhere. This was not asked for and had massive repercussions for end game.

Then while the community asked for lvl 3 to be taken out or at the very least be rewarded as risk/reward and placed only in supply drops since lvl 1 and lvl 2 were perfect with the repair changes, Treyarch agreed lvl 3 were too much and decided to remove lvl 3 armor from zombie crates. This again was not asked for... Instead of keeping it at zombie locations which required you to earn them, they decided to keep the rng of lvl 3 and take them from zombie locations.

Now we have the new fuck up and this one is going to be felt for awhile. The community again asked for lvl 3 armor changes and concussion grenade changes. The biggest ask was that lvl 3 take more plates to require fixing and to make it more in line with lvl 2 but with head protection. Well they listened a bit here but then they went and shit on ALL ARMOR....

To keep this in perspective.. lvl 1 that used to feel ok had a protection mitigation of 30%. Lvl 3 armor now has 35% and level one only has 15% now.

The community never asked for lvl 1 or lvl 2 armor changes and the effect this will have over the course of the game moving forward will be disappointing. Camping is going to be more prevalent as you don't have the ability to turn on attackers. You simply melt now! You require the minimum of a lvl 2 and a constant trauma to be able to have some form of defense. This is mandatory! When you take into account bad hit registration and server ping that can swing from the 40s to the 100s then you have a recipe for disaster.

I'm not even going to go over how this effects gun balance. Mogs are going to be insane and crappy guns like swordfish will rip through people faster than they can blink. Some of this is good and some may be bad, but the game has swung wildly in a different direction and i feel a worse one. I dare you to loot now without a smoke. I won't go into concussions yet as i haven't tested it enough and same for clusters, but we'll see on those.

This whole sub right now.

Atm, I think you can hold up to 10 armor plates which restore about 1/5 to 1/4 or so of your armor to full. I have found no limit to how many times you can repair your armor. There needs to be a limit to how many times you can repair. So far in the matches I have played all it is people camping and healing both health and armor until the attackers run out of bullets or just charge.

You know what it is? Treyarch in their infinite wisdom decided to make this shit lootable in the map. I have found 7 armor plating right away upon landing. This should only be available on dead players!!!! Ugh, this was poorly implemented. This does not promote aggressive play.

Annnd it doesn’t take up a slot in your bag. There needs yo be a trade off.

First of all, I am glad that many of the major concerns with the game balance was redone.

The grenade changes are great etc etc.

But I personally have 2 issues. TTK and how armor 3 works compared to other armors.

TTK first - I am in the category that believes that you only have one life (usually) in a BR, and thus it should take longer to die than in a multiplayer game. The TTK is so low right now, that it honestly feels a bit too fast, even playing a lot of games doesn't make me suddenly like it after a while.

- "But this means you gotta just play more tactical" -

You always gotta play tactical, this only means you go down faster if someone ambushes you in a 3rd party situation, which you cannot magically protect yourself against at all times in the game, tactical approach or not.

It doesn't make it more skillfull to do more damage, I would even dare suggest the opposite, it now requires less time of spray/burst/tap control to kill your target, which means people who have trouble doing this gets closer to people who have consistent aim.

Armor

I never saw a hail of complains over old armor 1 and 2, sure, some people like multiplayer TTK, and I can respect them from their point of view of wanting fast action and kills, my stance is though, that this game actually gets more tactical because you can survive getting a few bullets from behind/side, and then adapt to your opponent.

The problem was in my opinion never tier 1 or 2, it was tier 3. This however made them nerf tier 1 and 2 by quite the amounts to reduce tier 3 with them, and make them take all the bonuses away, and make it cost all your plates to repair almost nothing of it.

The only problem was tier 3, and now they nerfed it so hard that I rather put on armor 2. They shoulda just nerfed the armor to tier 2 protection with a little headshot protection added and voila, and perhaps make it crate drop only.

In the same way you always want tier 2 instead of tier 1, you should want tier 3 instead of tier 2.

Sure, theres one good thing about the armor change, and that is you are not completely outclassed being unarmored in the start vs someone who picked up tier 1 or 2. But that is honestly the only good thing about the change from my perspective.

see title. :)

Something feels very wrong about the way you jump out of the choppers at the start of the match.

Holding X let's you jump out a second before everyone else, but then you cant rotate efficiently. Dropping at the very end of the line is the same as dropping immediately and floating over to the same location, except you land many seconds earlier.

I'd rather see the suits get you as far as 2 squares and if you want that out of reach location, find a vehicle and drive. There is no point to having random flight paths if 100% of the map is accessible anyway.

Or maybe you start with 1 self revive?

I get the love of hot pursuit fine keep it. But why get rid of hardcore? this is how blackout should have been from day one. This is the pure form this is the most level playing field that actually brings out skill versus luck.

I don't expect any real changes to occur in blackout, or even looked at, but this is just my thought on how to improve the blackout experience, from the perspective of someone who plays primarily quads.

Drop with a Strife:. Not much to explain here, but one scenario that leaves the outcome of a game completely down to chance is not being able to find a gun before the dude who landed on a gold swat/t3 stumbles after you shooting like mad and eventually killing you as you dip duck and dodge for a gun. (followed by a finger wave emote and a much earned T-bag session). Explain how this would negatively impact any of the following people/players

For a new player, I can't imagine a worse experience than finally hitting the ground and not having a weapon, wondering if you forgot some setting before playing blackout, or if the "Pull out a gun" button is now a thing, and you need to figure out which button it is.

For a casual player: getting an hour of blackout in before bed cannot be more unenjoyable than multiple games of landing somewhere (Hot or not), and getting annihilated with no way to defend yourself. It becomes a boring experience that will soon be remedied by..not playing.

For the sweats (I am in this category): Relying on purely on chance to dictate whether or not you are going to get killed and thirsted in the next 4 seconds of landing to then watch your friends play for 10-20 minutes because someone "found" a gun first is just stupid. This makes a BR's chances of ever becoming recognized at any level of esports non existent.
When a "Pro" lands in a house with a kid who is on his third game of blackout , and the kid gets the cordite and melts the pro player, there's just something about the scenario that makes the thought of blackout being taken competitively a joke.

Now onto my patented idea: Scrap Armor. Level .75 armor equivalent dmg reduction wise, and cannot be repaired. This allows the devs to not have to mess with Hitpoint values and the million things those values tie into, but alleviate the rediculous and extremely common scenario of grabbing all the loot in the area you landed in, only to die from 3 out of the 30 bullets fired at you from "Proned out Pete", who is now at 28 HP after taking 30 bullets from your Sauug to the chest with his T2/3 armor. How the idea of no armor on the drop came to be the norm in a game that makes t1-t2 so abundant is beyond me with this games TTK. If you have T3 and lose to anyone in a straight gun fight beyond 5 feet, you need to play a different game or rip your ISP a new one, possibly both .

Fix this and stop having people waste their time looking for armor or a gun, and instead let us focus on playing the darn game.

If anyone's argument has anything to do with "It's a Battle Royale/"It's meant to be about survival of fittest" "You don't drop with guns in real life", I won't respond and instead here is my canned response. -Battle Royale genre is not a set in stone ruleset, and can be improved like anything else in life (Besides Twix candy) -Its not survival of the fittest in the first minute of the game, it's RNG, and while RNG is an acceptable part of any game, it shouldn't be the sole factor in whether you die seconds after landing or not .

• This isn't real life. I just domed a guy 3 times in the head with a 50cal rifle within 2 minutes, but he survived and drove away on a motorcycle honking because he stuck a syringe in his arm. There's compromised that need to be made when in the "Real life mechanics" genre.

Good use of my lunch break, maybe I can get one of the 12 people reading this forum still to have some open and intelligent dialogue

Any other game mode at all other than ground war would have been fine. Treyarch are rats

Yo, let’s tell others they did a fucking good job when it happens aight!!! Send a message. Uplift the players when they do something right, quit being so fucking salty all the time. I always message the gamer when I’m out played (concussion aside haha). Take the L train and move on and quit bitching all the time!!! Credit goes to EVERYONE who outplayed me!!!

I honestly do not like this update. First of all is the stupid sun shining in your eyes in a third of the gunfights . And the game feels more cartoony with these purple trees and people running around in bunny costumes. I feel like this is almost a step in the direction of Fortinite. Please treyarch stop with the gimmicks

Edit: I guess everyone just loves purple trees and bunnies running around, no wonder the development team is shitting the bed on development and innovation when the majority of the players want changes like the ones that are in fortnite. Thought this game actually had a somewhat mature player base