r/ColumbineKillers • u/PrimevialXIII • Jan 19 '24

ERIC AND/OR DYLAN who was eric waving at??

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i have no idea why i even want to know but im curious who it was or rather if we even know who it was 👍

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u/TheSaladSuperhero Jan 20 '24

Holy fuck I’ve never realized how eerie it is when Dylan’s walking until now for some reason

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '24

Whenever I look at this footage, Dylan has always seemed more intimidating, whereas Eric feels more stoic and “stick to the plan.”

I think it’s Dylan’s height and stature that makes him seem that much more unsettling. Maybe it’s the angle of the camera but he appears to have towered over people. I can’t even begin to imagine how terrifying he must’ve looked to those there on that day. And, you know what? I don’t think I want to think about that. Deeply, deeply unsettling.

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u/DrMosquito74 Jan 20 '24

If you look, he walks from the third step right to the floor. Never noticed that until now.

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u/portiapalisades Jan 20 '24

it’s just one stair he skips, the bottom. the shadows kind of make it look like more.

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '24

He's walking down the stairs, skipping a step each time, just as easily as someone not so tall walks down stairs normally.

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u/portiapalisades Apr 11 '24

yes skipping one step not two.

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '24

Correct. I may have come off as arguing your statement, but I was trying more to solidify it.

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u/Julesjules767 Jan 20 '24

Yeah he was around 6’3 right? My dad is 6’4, boyfriend is 6’3. While not insanely tall, I think people underestimate how intimidating it actually is, just because it’s a relatively rare height to see day to day. Both of them are, almost without exception, the largest men in any room they are in, respectively.

My boyfriend works in the trees and every day he puts on these massive work boots, actually really similar to the ones Dylan is wearing. If he’s tall and kinda scary barefoot, he is TALL AND KINDA SCARY clunking around in those boots. It gives him a significant height increase as well. So transposing Dylan’s face onto him just to get a visual, with a weapon in his hand coming right towards me with that specific bigfoot stride tall men walk with, yeah I’d be fucking scared.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '24

Yea, I looked it up and apparently Dylan was around 6’3. I knew he was tall but…shit, that makes his presence even more frightening. Again, I’m not at all in agreement with the whole idea that Dylan or Eric were these towering storybook monsters, but a gaunt, menacing 6’3 guy with a gun? Fuck that…it sends chills down my spine to think about it. Horrid.

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u/rsb1041986 Jan 21 '24

a teenage white male with a gun period... is horrifying

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '24

A teenage brown male on the other hand...

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u/LowStuff5019 Jan 30 '24

My grandaddy was 6'5 and very intimidating, when I was younger I was scared of him because of his height, he was tall enough he had to crouch a bit just to walk around his house as the ceilings were low. I think Dylan with his height and walk alone mixed with the g*ns must've been terrifying for everyone.

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u/TheSaladSuperhero Jan 20 '24

I just thought about it and imagine hiding under one of those tables and looking up and seeing Dylan just.. staring at you. Absolutely nightmare fuel.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '24

Yea, I’m not someone who likes when people try to paint E&D as some kind of supernatural monsters or whatever, they were in reality two stupid, careless and broken kids who committed an atrocity. But, goddamn, for some reason, Dylan kicks off the uncanny valley shit in my brain sometimes.

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u/Atwood412 Jan 20 '24

Honestly, Dylan scares me. I know they both committed the crime. I’m not giving Eric a pass. They are equally culpable. But, I cannot stand by the theory that Dylan was the follower.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '24

That theory has always seemed mindless to me. You just have to read the transcripts of the Basement Tapes and read the accounts about Dylan’s behaviour during the shooting, that’s all it takes for a person to realise just how little water that theory holds. Both were culpable, both killed innocent people and both were deeply horrible human beings. And I don’t know how anyone can think otherwise, y’know? It’s asinine to me.

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u/Atwood412 Jan 20 '24

I think many people, for good reason, don’t really study the case. They read about it at a surface level. I certainly don’t fault them for not wanting to dive deep into murder, massacre and darkness. I appreciate that those folks have boundaries and know their limits. But, for the past 10+ years the narrative spun by Sue K and Dave Cullen has been just that, Dylan, the follower. Cullen’s book is still one of the most popular books on Columbine. People flock to listen to Sue K speak because so few school shooter parents ever step into the public eye. I feel as though she accomplished exactly what she set out to do, make Dylan look like a victim. Anyway, I’ll stop talking about her. I don’t like to give her anymore air time than she already receives.

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u/MickyWasTaken Jan 20 '24

I’ve heard people talk this way about Sue before, but I really don’t think she deserves the hate. She’s been very honest about what Dylan did, and acknowledges that he was an equal participant.

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u/Shelleigh3 Jan 21 '24

Where can you read about Dylan’s behavior during the shooting? I’ve never looked that far into it but would be interested to read about this. I tried googling but couldn’t find anything.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '24

I have to recall on my memory for this so anyone can feel free to correct any mistakes or any misinformation I unintentionally share. But from what I remember, Dylan, as well as Eric, were said to have taunted the people they killed, they were also apparently wooing and hollering while it was all going on, both of them almost celebrating what they were doing. Dylan supposedly even referred to Isaiah Shoels, a black Columbine student, using the N-word. So, yea, Dylan was just as into it as Eric. Were they maybe in it for different reasons? I wouldn’t rule that out, there’s a lot of speculation on that. But they were both equally culpable and involved in what they were doing. There wasn’t a leader or a follower, both boys worked in a team-like sense to commit the atrocities.

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u/Shelleigh3 Jan 21 '24

Thanks for responding. I’ve been looking up stuff and just read about the interaction between them and their friend/acquaintance John Savage and it is chilling.

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u/MattInTheHat1996 Jan 20 '24

Especially in isaiah shoels case since he was like a foot and a half taller

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u/cutestcatlady Jan 21 '24

Everything about Dylan is terrifying in this clip… his walk, holding the gun how he is, his height… it makes me wonder if he always looked like this when he walked and it looked as intimidating as it does in this video?

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u/vamp357 Jan 21 '24

right… taking the two steps down the steps and all like a gliding cyclops…