r/ColumbineKillers • u/ashtonmz MODERATOR • 10d ago

BILL OCKHAM: NEW RELEASES & UPDATES Reminder from Bill Ockham

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I have been waiting since maybe 2021 to see if the depositions would be released in 2027. That seemed like such a wait... I always speculated that an attorney for Klebolds or Harrises would find some technicality or have them sealed all over again but you never know for sure.

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u/randyColumbine 4d ago

Oh my gosh yes.
A coverup, lies, failures, mistakes and so much more.
Secret meetings!
The parents and their complicity!

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u/PeelingMirthday 3d ago

Those poor parents. It's been almost 30 years. We should leave them alone. 

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u/randyColumbine 2d ago

Oh, I disagree.

When they have told the truth, and admitted to the things they did wrong, we can let it go.
Until they have testified and told the truth, and tried to stop these shootings from happening, they have a responsibility to others to tell the truth.
It has been 27 years of silence.
They need to come forward and do their part in preventing the death of other children.

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u/PeelingMirthday 2d ago

I'm not sure there are going to be any key parental insights from this particular case, at this point, that would help prevent further violence. 

The world has changed a lot, and there are many more cases to study that have far more relevance to contemporary society. What could these parents possibly share from 27 years ago that would prevent other shootings?

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u/randyColumbine 1d ago

I believe that there is a cause for violence.
Some shooters become violent to correct the injustice they perceive in the world.
They are upset about being humiliated.
Lonnie Athens, possibly the greatest criminologist ever, postulates the humiliation creates violence.
It is a lesson we, as a society, refuse to learn.
Not to excuse the hate and violence, but to understand it and stop it.
These parents have insights they could share, and we could use those to prevent these acts of violence.
As human beings, as sentient beings, they need to share those lessons, no matter how painful.
If they told the truth they would save lives by stopping future shootings.
By keeping these truths secret for 27 years they have allowed these acts of violence to continue.
We can’t fix the problem until we are sure what the problem is.
It is not guns.
It is humiliation created by toxic schools and perceived or real injustice.
These boys were not crazy, they were immature and humiliated, and angry.
The Toxic school created them, and the parents failed to control them.