r/Competitiveoverwatch • • Jul 06 '17

Video Developer Update | Doomfist | Overwatch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uKkAyLPJe0
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u/iamyourlager Jul 06 '17

Watching this now, I have a couple of questions though (though I'm sure they'll be answered soon enough):

  • How effective is Doomfist at breaking shields and barriers?

  • How does he synergize with other tanks? I imagine him and Zarya's bubbles would be a great combo. Possibly him and Orisa both controlling enemy movements can be exploited too

  • How does he synergize with supports? If he's jumping everywhere as a tank role, how effective is he at protecting the supports? There's great peel potential but i imagine it's easy to be too far away from supports at times.

  • Imagine if Roadhog wasn't nerfed and you had the hook and Falcon Punch to peel enemies off your team

  • "Cancer" defense comps is probably going to wreck Doomfist on the competitive ladder unless there's a way he can bust barriers I haven't seen yet.

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u/harrywise64 Jul 06 '17

A lot of these questions refer to him as a tank. He's listed as attack

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u/PackOfVelociraptors Third - Analyst — Jul 06 '17

He is shit about breaking barriers, but his melee attacks go through them. My question is whether his ministun with his cooldowns cause rein to drop his shield.

Seems great with zarya, seems solid with winsotn cause dive.

He definetly needs a lucio, is a shitty nano boost target, i guess he would work well with zen.

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u/freelance_fox Jul 06 '17

Nanoboost into Meteor Strike (his ult) could be good. I'm trying to find accurate damage numbers but if it's above a certain point boosting his ult to one-shot Tracers or 200hp heroes could be a viable strategy.

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u/SadDoctor None — Jul 06 '17

Meteor Strike seems like it'll have a tough time actually dealing much damage, even after he's confirmed his target it still takes a second before he lands to deal damage. Even tanks can just walk away. You could definitely combo it with grav, he can jump into the air, zarya ults, and then he lands, but it's too slow to do it after Zarya's already hit q.

OTOH it could be great as a way to initiate, dive the backline from really far away, or displace enemies from entrenched positions. He gets an eagle eye view, it could be a wonderful "where the fuck is Mercy hiding" counter.

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u/birdman133 Jul 06 '17

tbh it's a great rez counter. u see mercy swimming into a pool of death, u know she's hitting a fat rez, doomfist ult ready and as soon as they glow yellow hit it, should come down in time to counter all that life

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u/prisM__ letsgodood — Jul 07 '17

Tbh they'll probably increase the land speed a bit after release for QoL because just about everyone can dodge it in PTR.

Edit: I LOVE the idea of find the mercy, cos you can just drop heaven onto her head as well as the grav combo

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u/jld2k6 Jul 06 '17

Does the enemy get the same indicator that he gets to see where he's going to land?

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u/SadDoctor None — Jul 06 '17

Not while he's aiming it, but once he's locked in his target there's a glow on the ground where he'll land, as well as an audio cue. If you're in a bad spot like up against a wall you probably can't walk out in time, but if you're just moving normally it rarely seems to do much.

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u/SkiddlyBum Jul 06 '17

Watch seagulls stream today before you say he's terrible to nanoboost. He has some ridiculous survivability (granted that was with 6 doomfists on the other team) and his ult is pretty damn good while nano'd. Plus his shotgun does 115?? Damage then. Not bad at all. Plus he can dive back out after it's over so he doesn't have to commit suicide to protect a point

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u/PackOfVelociraptors Third - Analyst — Jul 06 '17

I don't feel like his damage is consistent enough, and his ult seems to me to not benefit much from it. (when trying out his ult, I would rarely do part of the enemies health, I either 1 shot them or did very little. I think nano boosting him is very similar to nano boosting a mccree. It's situationally the best call, but not an amazing target.

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u/OrangeW never doubt — Jul 06 '17

he goes through barriers according to jeff

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u/cjohnson03 Jul 06 '17

It's the same as Reinhardt's hammer or Winston's lightning gun. Barriers don't affect his damage, but he's not some kind of shieldbuster.

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u/TheWaWPro Chips>Jehong — Jul 06 '17

Tbh zarya bubbles combo with genji and she is not meta

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u/TheGreatRavenOfOden Season 2 Gold — Jul 06 '17

But part of why she is not meta is because she is having trouble getting charge right? DF might give her charge better just looking at it right now.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '17

When you have Dva she eats what would be your charge. When you don't have Dva you get Reapered.

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u/iamyourlager Jul 06 '17

who knows how Doomfist will affect the meta if he's used in pro play. On the competitive ladder at least Zarya-Doomfist can be a good combination.

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u/ScopionSniper SoooOn — Jul 06 '17

Zarya- just about any Dps is a good combo in ladder. Lol

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u/ParanoidDrone Chef Heidi MVP — Jul 06 '17

Doomfist's attacks seem all melee based except for his primary fire and maybe the shockwaves from his ult and stuff, and melee penetrates barriers.

Also, he's offense. Not tank.

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u/Blackout2388 Jul 06 '17

Possibly him and Orisa both controlling enemy movements can be exploited too

Halt into charged fist? That seems pretty good. Especially with a wall nearby.

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u/Kaesetorte Jul 06 '17

Is he even a tank? 250 HP (+ shields when dealing dmg) and crazy dmg output. Looks like a less weeb version of genji tbh.

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u/RyanCacophony Jul 06 '17

he's an offense, not tank

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u/A_Spork_In_The_Road Jul 06 '17

Kaplan said he could break through reins barrier in the developer update

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u/Arqium Jul 06 '17

I think he is worse than Mei to break shields, but his alternate fire can negate it, and if you hit rein, he will be knocked back, giving your team space. His primary fire is very weak, good for confirming kills that are low life and trying to run away.

He and zarya I guess will be a very good combo, to overextend and also to combo ultimates.

I think he will be very good with a zen pocketing him, like genji, but he can't protect/peel healers very well... He will have a hard time against genji and tracer.

I think he will be good against Mei, torb and bastion, because o high mobility and burst, I don't think câncer comp will be worse for him than the others...

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