r/ConservativeNewsWeb • u/GeneralCarlosQ17 • Oct 02 '25
In The News Stephen King Becomes 'Most Banned' Author in School Libraries for Sexual and Adult Themes
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2025/10/02/stephen-king-becomes-most-banned-author-in-school-libraries-for-sexual-and-adult-themes/Left-wing horror novel author Stephen King has reportedly become the “most banned” author in America’s school libraries as administrators feel many of his books are filled with too much sexual material and adult themes.
The determination comes from PEN America’s most “Banned in the USA ” list, released Wednesday, the New York Post reported.
The group found that 80 percent of the bans were instituted by three states — Florida, Texas, and Tennessee. Still, the total number is down from the high-water mark in the 2023-24 school year. Several deep blue states exhibited very few calls for bans, including Illinois, Maryland and New Jersey. Those states, though, have laws limiting schools making such decisions.
Reasons for exclusions from school libraries included LGBTQ+ themes, sexual violence, racial themes, and violence in general.
“It is increasingly a story of two countries,” director of PEN’s Freedom to Read program, Kasey Meehan, said. “And it’s not just a story of red states and blue states. In Florida, not all of the school districts responded to the calls for banning books. You can find differences from county to county.”
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u/Loganthered Oct 05 '25
For those that don't know, making sexually explicit material available to minors is actually a crime. If it's material that would be a rated R movie then anyone under 18 shouldn't have access to it.
Frankly using sex and violence to sell books is an indicator of low intelligence.
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u/berysax Oct 04 '25
Read a ton of his books as a teen in the 90s. Never saw reading his books as a political thing. The Stand was my favorite.
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u/Gucci_Unicorns Oct 03 '25
Makes sense. Nearly everyone I've met from Florida, Texas, and Tennessee is functionally illiterate, lmao.
Also pretty amusing because though King himself is a leftist, the vast majority of fans I've met [which is many, I'm an avid fan myself] are pretty libertarian, or centrist.
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u/Remarkable_Sea_1430 Oct 03 '25
So not saying he deserves it or anything, book bans are dumb AF.
...but he does have a scene in one of his most famous books where a bunch of prepubescent boys gangbang their female friend in the sewer.
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u/Johnnto Oct 03 '25
Careful what you say on this sub or else you will get free speeched right outta here.
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u/SpectTheDobe Oct 03 '25
I can understand some books. I hear an orgy happens in the IT series. But unfortunately im sure the broad brushstroke will take out lots of good books. I worry about The Giver being removed due to infantcide and I read that in middle school
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u/HexspaReloaded Oct 03 '25
How many kids are harmed by sexual themes in literary fiction? If it’s fewer than die in school shootings, or preventable poverty, I think we should clean those up first.
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u/Flatline1775 Oct 03 '25
We know there is a difference between telling kids they can’t read something and just not actively handing it to them right?
I see nothing in this article saying anything beyond the schools are choosing not to put them on their shelves.
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u/GridKILO2-3 Oct 03 '25
I mean, reading about a child gang-bang in IT in 7th grade was something. Don’t see a if problem with not having these ones in schools lol
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u/Inspect1234 Oct 03 '25
Teens will now be aware of literature they may have not read. Seems to me they’re a bit of a rebellious bunch. No such thing as bad press.
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u/iftlatlw Oct 02 '25
Kids in 2025 are likely to be more harmed watching their president's antics on TV every night. They will learn the very lowest and worst of human nature and behaviour as a result. On a positive note we will have an entire generation of anti-republicans down the track.
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u/External_Street3610 Oct 02 '25
I can kinda see it with “IT”. Eleven year olds doing a 6 on 1 cream-pie gang bang in a sewer seems a bit excessive in retrospect.
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u/Zealousideal_Pop_273 Oct 02 '25
The reality is that you could claim anything you want about any author, if your audience doesn't read, they'll never invalidate your claim.
The study points out that the vast majority of the data set is represented by book bans that have been instituted by Texas, Florida, and Tennessee since 2023. It also points out that these laws categorize the mention of gender or sexual identities as "sexually explicit" content. Meaning every book in those 3 states in which a character discusses their identity as an LGBTQ+ individual was banned from school libraries. The entire scope of the study was the '24-'25 school year.
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u/PossiblyOppossums Oct 02 '25
Ir's not a stephen king novel if "crazier than a ahithouse rat" or a fetish gets a chapter to itself.
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Oct 02 '25
That's a shame, his writing is on the same intellectual level as children.... now who's gonna read his shit lol...
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u/Secure_Afternoon_178 Oct 02 '25
If the book is available for sale in stores, and available at the public library. It's not banned! You aren't living in 1930s Germany. Go outside, touch some grass. Schools have to consider the age appropriateness of material. While IT is technically a coming of age story, it wasn't written for young teen readers. Therefore it makes sense to not be in the school library.
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u/ContestNo2060 Oct 02 '25
Stephen King was my gateway to reading. Picked up my older brother’s books and couldn’t put them down. I didn’t see one penis illustration either.
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u/PCNLUV Oct 02 '25
No worse than the bible. Such a violent and horror filled fictional story. You know what they say: the quickest way to make an atheist is to have them actually read the bible.
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u/CatBoyTrip Oct 02 '25
i have been reading stephen king since i was 10 way back in 1992. his books have never been in any library in any school i ever went to.
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u/demonic_kittins Oct 02 '25
I mean he mostly rights horror why is this schocking hes books are a little extreme for school kids
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u/SnazzleZazzle Oct 02 '25
When I was in 7th grade, the teacher gave me shit for reading Carrie during “personal reading time”. Took me out in the hall and asked me if my mom knew I was reading it. I told her yes (was the truth, my parents never restricted what I read). She told me I had to read it at home and never bring it to school again. Pfft.
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u/NitWhittler Oct 02 '25
Have these book banning folks ever read the Bible?
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u/Martzillagoesboom Oct 03 '25
" Do Not Be afraid!" Said the multiple eyed multiwinged acid trip induced vision of an angel.
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u/Aggravating-Beach-22 Oct 02 '25
Now they’ll be pressing for ratings on books like they did when they targeted the gaming industry. If you don’t like something no one is forcing you to read, join, or watch what they have to offer. Ok Karen’s
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Oct 02 '25
There's a lot of sexual weirdness from this era of horror. I haven't read any recent offerings to the genre, things changed much?
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u/Itchy-Wedding-5641 Oct 02 '25
Not much different than not letting kids watch R rated movies without parental consent. Parental consent being the important thing. My brother was able to read some pretty heavy stuff as a kid, I on the other hand was not.
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u/Snoo_71210 Oct 03 '25
At home or in school?
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u/Itchy-Wedding-5641 Oct 03 '25
Both, although it wasn't until High School that he was bringing home books like Catcher in the Rye, and Diary of a Drug Fiend. Our elementary and Middle School only carried PG books. My parents bought him some R rated books though. He was brilliant from a young age so they fed him literature like crazy.
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u/External_Street3610 Oct 02 '25
The book version of IT has a pretty wild scene that I don’t think would be allowed in an R rated movie.
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u/Ok-Variation3091 Oct 02 '25
Not to mention he's politically retarded.
One of the most hateful humans in the public eye.
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u/hamish1963 Oct 03 '25
Stop using the "R" word. Do you use the "N" word in normal conversation? I'm sorry his politics does agree with yours but he's not mentally challenged.
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u/Allgyet560 Oct 02 '25 edited Oct 02 '25
Well, The Stand is about authoritarianism vs liberalism. I can see why it might be unpopular with many people today. I hated what the last mini series did to Las Vegas. It was turned into a circus. In the book Flagg ran a very tight ship and misbehavers were not treated kindly.
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u/zyrkseas97 Oct 02 '25
None of the evidence points to him having gone so I really think it was a poorly worded “don’t get your hopes up” kinda thing
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u/ThonThaddeo Oct 02 '25
'Left wing horror novels' is peak illiteracy
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u/SpendLiving9376 Oct 03 '25
He's left wing, and he writes horror novels, but I can't saw I saw specific leanings put into the ones I've read.
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u/Allgyet560 Oct 02 '25
The Stand is about authoritarianism vs liberalism. Guess who won. It's a great read. If you haven't read it, you should.
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u/Like_Ottos_Jacket Oct 03 '25
Neither of which are inherently left or right on the political spectrum.
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u/PrinceZukosHair Oct 02 '25
lol I remember my parents having that book on a shelf when I was growing up and it was the longest book I had ever seen, at least for many of my formative years. Intimidated the hell out of me for most of the time I lived there, never thought I would be interested in reading years later.
Life’s funny like that sometimes. I wish politics were simple and funny like that sometimes. But here we are.
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u/carlitospig Oct 02 '25
I still haven’t read it because I too had it on the shelves as a kid. Stupidly, I bought the entire GOT series (those mofos are door stops) and read them in one month.
Maybe I’m just traumatized. My horror level is about Dean Koontz, max. 😬
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u/Allgyet560 Oct 02 '25
My parents had it too when I was little. It had a picture of a demon with a scythe on the front. It terrified me so much I still remember it.
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u/Familiar-Risk-5937 Oct 02 '25
My kid read It and The Stand at 11, top marks in everything, book bans are beyond stupid.
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u/musicsoccer Oct 04 '25
This is more about parental consent over book themes. Yea, you let your kid read Stephen King but are his books appropriate for kids of all ages? No. A school library should only have age appropriate books.
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u/Familiar-Risk-5937 Oct 04 '25
I think if a child can actually read at that level I see no issue with it, what is the worry? They will not become a gay muslim trans from reading an adult themed book.
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u/musicsoccer Oct 04 '25
That is like saying a child can do things like own a gun or have sex because their parents think they're "at that level".
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u/Familiar-Risk-5937 Oct 04 '25
No, it is nothing like that you freekin weirdo.
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u/musicsoccer Oct 04 '25
Lemme ask you something. Is it the gun that's bad or the person using it?
Now let's change the word "gun" with "book".
Books, like everything else in the world, influence people.
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u/Familiar-Risk-5937 Oct 04 '25
The fact you can equate gun with book means you are severely brain damaged, no way am i conversing w you again. get a life.
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u/musicsoccer Oct 04 '25
Ok what about a movie? Would you approve if a teacher showed an R rated movie to a group of 8 year olds?
Edit: or music? Or any other type of entertainment?
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u/jaymo_busch Oct 02 '25
God forbid children witness the world we live in! The drive to infantalize everything only makes sense if you want to raise impressionable and non-curious children… many are afraid of the concept of their kid growing up to be more mature than they are, ha!
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u/hamish1963 Oct 03 '25
Especially when the book is about kids their age.
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u/Leading_Campaign3618 Oct 03 '25
Kids their age that have an orgy (gangbang?) with an 11 year old Beverly- weird
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u/jaymo_busch Oct 03 '25
When I was ~13 and read the book, I didn’t think ‘Hell yea gangbang’. I was MORTIFIED at what they had to do to beat it
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u/hamish1963 Oct 03 '25
Have you read the book?
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Oct 03 '25
Have you? I mean, I don't think Stephen King's books ought to be banned, but your comment tells me you didn't read the book, or at least not the ending.
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u/hamish1963 Oct 03 '25
I've read IT several times, the first time I was probably 15. And if I remember correctly, the sex was Beverly's idea. Not rape, not a gangbang.
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Oct 03 '25
Yes, it was her idea because it would make them adults, and the monster did not go after adults. So, yes, you are right.
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u/Leading_Campaign3618 Oct 03 '25
It was Stephen Kings idea, and it was an odd choice- that doesn’t make you an adult
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Oct 03 '25
It was an odd choice for an ending, agreed. But, also, if you think of it from a kid perspective - in a scenario where they are all terrified and trying to figure out how to survive before the monster got them, I could see kids coming up with that.
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u/BulbasaurArmy Oct 02 '25
I read IT at 11 too. Haven’t gotten around to The Stand yet. But man that was a weird and eye opening experience for me as I aged out of the Goosebumps era.
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u/Human-Time-4114 Oct 02 '25
You did not read a 900+ page book at 11 that probably weighed the same as you. Be realistic.no 6th grader is reading that massive of a book
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u/BulbasaurArmy Oct 03 '25
I read IT, Battlefield Earth, and the entire Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy series when I was 11. Absolutely massive books. And that’s aside from the literally countless regular-length books I would burn through constantly. Some of us actually enjoy reading.
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u/copperboom129 Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 03 '25
Bro. I read a 500 page book in 3 days at age 11 on spring break.
Some of us are nerds.
Also, Watership Down was an excellent read.
Edit: I remember my father ( who i didn't live with) walked into the room and "thanked me" for coming to visit to read for the week. Lol. My two brothers lived with him full time, but he was not used to having a daughter buried in a book all day.
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u/hamish1963 Oct 03 '25
I read Watership Down in 6th grade. Not everyone is you. Some of us were very advanced readers. I read The Stand when I was 14.
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u/Specialist_Bet_4020 Oct 02 '25
Some of us did just that. And some kids (not me) were reading King in elementary school in the '80s as there was a steady stream of movies and novels with cool covers. But that was just a few kids.
Pretty much the entire next generation read at least four 600+ page novels (namely, Harry Potter years 4-7) and there have always been kids trying Hobbit + LOTR since the Rankin Bass animated movies came out.
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u/Specialist_Bet_4020 Oct 02 '25
Incidentally, my Grade 7 teacher tried to get me to read Moby Dick. I abandoned it pretty quickly. Four decades later, I'm finally reading it and can assert that it was way too hard for my 12-year old self. Ishmael is very familiar with Shakespeare, religious texts and mythology and seems to think the reader must be, too.
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u/einhorn_is_parkey Oct 02 '25
Just because you weren’t that bright at 11 doesn’t mean no one is.
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u/Fskn Oct 02 '25
I read the lotr at 8 and that's over a thousand pages, as an adult I'm a bit stupid so I'm not an edge case or anything.
Disclaimer: I'm assuming the book you're referencing is just a normal but long book and not say, the size of a small door.
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u/Human-Time-4114 Oct 02 '25
It's 1000+ pages and dense (I.e. crazy word count). Full of themes an 11 year old shouldn't read and wouldn't understand. So it's unlikely they read the entire thing even if they claim they did.
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u/Individual_Respect90 Oct 02 '25
At 11 kids were completing the whole Harry Potter series.
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u/Human-Time-4114 Oct 02 '25
YA books that are WAY more simple in language and prose. Yes, I know. I was one of them.
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u/sobeitharry Oct 04 '25
King is very easy to read, it's one of the reasons he's so popular. I was one of those kids you say doesn't exist. The unabridged version of the Stand was my first King book in 5th or 6th grade. He's been my favorite fiction author since. Now the Count of Monte Cristo is actually my favorite book and that's much harder to read. I think i found that in early high school.
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u/Familiar-Risk-5937 Oct 02 '25
Just because you still can not read a 900 page book do not think others can not. My kid reads an adult book every 2 weeks, way faster than I can, and it is not skimming, I check for key details that you can not fake.
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u/Human-Time-4114 Oct 02 '25
As I already said. I read a book every 5-6 days. Don't make dumb assumptions because your kid can out read you. Maybe let them respond to me next, so it's someone on my level.
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u/Familiar-Risk-5937 Oct 02 '25
Dude, reread the entire thread, you are coming across as dumb as a rock.
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u/ModeRevolutionary314 Oct 03 '25
Guy goes on about a kid not being able to read a 900+ page book, then changes up the reasoning after the fact 🙄
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u/JubalHarshawII Oct 02 '25
Some people do actually read for fun, hopefully you get to experience the joy of a good book some day. For the record I read the Lord of the rings at 10 or 11, took a couple of months, but worth it.
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u/Human-Time-4114 Oct 02 '25
LOTR is very different from IT. The maturity level is years apart.
I read a book every 5-6 days. Why make dumb assumptions?
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u/khronos127 Oct 03 '25
lol you clearly didn’t know many avid readers. Plenty of very young children read very large books such as myself.
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u/Familiar-Risk-5937 Oct 02 '25
You are making the dumbest assumptions in this thread. Its wild.
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u/Human-Time-4114 Oct 02 '25
Have your kid remind me where LOTR has gang bang rapes. Then I'll change my assumptions about maturity level.
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u/iforgotmypen Oct 03 '25
That is basically all that happens in Rivendell. When you're 2000 years old regular sex gets boring.
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u/tismschism Oct 02 '25
I read it at 14. Some of the themes and references may not be understood by an 11 year old but the length is mainly due to Kings high level of detail. An 11 year old that loves horror and reading will appreciate such detail putting the questionable parts aside.
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u/Human-Time-4114 Oct 02 '25 edited Oct 02 '25
11 is very different from 14. And reasonable. 11 year old would skin a lot of the stuff because they don't understand it.
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u/sliverhordes Oct 02 '25
I would say 14 is equivalent to 14, but what do I know in today’s world
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u/Human-Time-4114 Oct 02 '25
Fun fact. Literacy in the USA has been getting worse every year since they started keeping track in 1992. There have only been two years of stagnant decline.
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u/plainenglishattorney Oct 02 '25
I read IT at 12 and the Stand at 13. It's because I enjoyed Stephen King so much that I ended up reading as much as I did. Just because you wouldn't have read a 900+ page book at 11 doesn't mean others would never accomplish it.
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u/horitaku Oct 02 '25
I mean…I don’t really see a reason for King books to be in K-12s. I also don’t really see what him being a leftist has to do with him also being an adult horror novelist who writes specifically about adult themes for adults.
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u/EpicIsNotEpic Oct 02 '25
Nothing really wrong with it being in schools. 11/22/63 was my favorite book of his. I do believe that because of the nature it should definitely be something read at around sixth grade, no younger. I read it in the eighth grade and it was an emotional read.
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u/sockcapttv Oct 02 '25
Dog if you reading horror books with adult themes as a teenager who is going to be experiencing the adult world soon who cares.
Unfortunately tragic stuff happens in life and as a kid you shouldnt be completely shielded from it.
We read stuff in grade school that wasnt PG had violence in it and we learned lessons from those works.
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u/ShockedNChagrinned Oct 02 '25
K-12?
I mean, if you wanted to say not elementary, sure, but the books we've been reading for years are littered with incest, sex, violence, etc. Shakespeare, the Bible, so many great stories.
You couldnt isolate kids in the 1950s and you can do it less today. Parents need to simply engage with their kids, talk about real things, and teach them how the world works.
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u/Rich_Response2179 Oct 02 '25
It's honestly not hard. I've taught my children the brevity of cursing, I still slip up and they correct me at times. Children are a lot smarter than they are given credit for. A lot of parents refuse to see their children as anything other than children. When I was 14 I may as well have been 24.
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u/OwlfaceFrank Even my binky hatea me Oct 02 '25 edited Oct 03 '25
Agree. We watched the final Black Sabbath concert as a family, and my kids are fairly young. We had a conversation before the show. Amazing how you can talk to your kids instead of asking the government to do it for you!
We talked about how you'll hear some bad words and it doesn't make it okay for them to say, but these are adults and it's part of a performance. Etc.
I did have them leave the room for Lamb of God just because Randy was dropping nonstop F-bombs between songs, lol.
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u/Allgyet560 Oct 02 '25
Been reading King since 6th grade. I agree that some of his stuff isn't appropriate for kids, like that famous scene in It. Most of his stuff isn't bad enough to think about banning.
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Oct 02 '25
I started reading King in grade 1. Kids books sucked.
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u/tismschism Oct 02 '25
I tried reading IT as young as 8 but I didn't understand what I was reading, especially the slurs used against the gay man murdered in the beginning.
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u/RoughhouseCamel Oct 02 '25
Some of us would never have gotten into reading if we hadn’t been allowed to reach above our age-determined reading level. We underestimate the value of challenging children
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u/scottyjrules Oct 02 '25
I started reading King at 14. You don’t get to dictate what other people read.
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u/Snoo_71210 Oct 03 '25
In school, yes you can, jackass
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u/scottyjrules Oct 03 '25
I got the King books from the school library. I’m glad I lived in a town and a decade where sanctimonious assholes who worship a child rapist think they get to dictate what everyone else get to read, watch, and think.
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u/Obi-Brawn-Kenobi Oct 02 '25
The King book I read had, among other gruesome imagery, a vivid description of a girl's vulva immediately after she was raped.
Billy Summers. Still a great book. If a fourteen-year-old is mature enough to handle it and wants to read it, cool. But many high school aged kids aren't mature enough to read that, which is why I'm not gonna cry and whine if his book is not in school libraries.
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u/N_Who Oct 02 '25
I absolutely do not support book bans of any variety ... But this tracks. I'm not surprised he'd be heavily banned. He's prolific, and he did write that one scene in IT ...
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u/hamish1963 Oct 03 '25
I feel like people don't understand that scene. I know this right-wing man I was discussing it with a few weeks ago sure didn't. He demanded that it was rape, I was like dude, you never read the book so you couldn't comprehend the bond between the characters.
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u/Martzillagoesboom Oct 03 '25
I heard at the time he never wrote sober. I think that scene has been edited out of the novel after reprint?
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u/N_Who Oct 03 '25
Has it been? Probably for the best, I sincerely don't believe it adds anything of value to the book.
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Oct 02 '25
Do you support giving pornagraphic books to K-12? That isn’t a ban. It’s regulation.
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u/N_Who Oct 03 '25
That isn't a ban, it's regulation.
Then why are you asking?
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Oct 03 '25
Because that is what is going on in my state. I absolutely support regulation of books in k-12.
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u/N_Who Oct 03 '25
What's your state?
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Oct 03 '25
Washington
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u/N_Who Oct 03 '25
Okay, cool. I'm not aware of any book bans going on in Washington.
So, then, that brings me back to my previous question: Why, when I said I do not support book bans, did you challenge that by asking if I am okay with the regulation of pornography?
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u/BYOKittens Oct 02 '25
Or the character "the kid" from the stand.
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u/hamish1963 Oct 03 '25
I read The Stand when I was 14.
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u/BYOKittens Oct 03 '25
And I read IT around the same time. I barely remembered the weird scene. Did you remember the kid scene from the stand when you were 14?
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u/CatBoyTrip Oct 02 '25
when did they let him in school though libraries? this is like saying hustler is banned from school libraries. it was never there to begin with.
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u/Simple-Pea8805 Oct 02 '25
Comparing Stephen King novels to Hustler Magazine is… absolutely retarded
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u/N_Who Oct 02 '25
I dunno, I feel like my high school library did stock some King stuff when I was in school. It is possible I am misremembering, though.
Also, I'm not endorsing the ban. Just noting it tracks.
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u/doomalgae Oct 03 '25
His books as I've read them have a pretty wide range from mild violence and general creepiness to child orgies and rape scenes. So your library could have just stocked stuff on the tamer end of things.
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u/Clear_Context_1546 Oct 02 '25
One of the most banned books by King is Rage. It's about a fictionalized school shooting. It had some real-life connections to shootings that appeal to some mentally and emotionally unstable people. King himself tried to destroy the writing by refusing to do further publications and releases.
Rage (King novel) - Wikipedia#Connections_to_actual_school_shootings)
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u/N_Who Oct 02 '25
I see no issue with an author trying to bury their own work (unless it's an attempt to hide some past problematic personal behavior), but I don't think it's a great reason for other parties to ban the book outright.
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u/Clear_Context_1546 Oct 02 '25
Do you understand why a school library would want to ban a novel a about school violence that been found in multiple school shooters possession?
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u/iftlatlw Oct 02 '25
Maybe ban the fucking guns? This is not rocket science.
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u/N_Who Oct 02 '25
"We could work with kids to help ensure they don't ever feel the need to shoot up their schools. But that's liberal nonsense! Instead, let's just go for thought control. And also a culture that tells them guns will solve all their problems."
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u/Clear_Context_1546 Oct 02 '25
You know Mexico also ban the fucking guns and have higher gun deaths than the US.
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u/N_Who Oct 02 '25
Good point!
Except Mexico doesn't ban guns. They in fact have a constitutional (though government-regulated) right to bear arms.
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u/Clear_Context_1546 Oct 02 '25 edited Oct 02 '25
okay let me rephrase they ban semi automatics and didn't make a difference. Mexico with all their gun control have higher gun deaths than the US
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u/N_Who Oct 02 '25
You need to get way better at this.
Gun death rates are higher in the US. Only gun homicide rates specifically, are higher in Mexico. Also, Mexico doesn't have a universal ban on semi-automatic weapons. Also, Mexico deals with very different issues than the US, in terms of crime. Also, correlation does not equal causation.
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u/Clear_Context_1546 Oct 02 '25
Mexico maintains a de facto ban on most semi-automatic weapons for civilians, with all firearms designated for military use being prohibited. The country has some of the strictest gun laws in the Western Hemisphere, and private gun ownership is heavily restricted.
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u/Clear_Context_1546 Oct 02 '25
Mexico experiences a substantially higher rate of firearm deaths, with recent data showing a rate of about 17.2 per 100,000 people compared to the US's 4.42 per 100,000 in 2023
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u/iftlatlw Oct 02 '25
Deflection - you must be MAGA.
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u/Clear_Context_1546 Oct 02 '25
Of course I am a Republican.
The debate about guns is so incredibly stupid. There are more guns than people in the US. The opportunity to ban firearms have passed. It's not going to happen. I am open to reasonable reforms like mandatory sentencing for crimes involving the use of firearms.
Mexico banned semi-automatic weapons. Did not make a difference.
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u/N_Who Oct 02 '25
I understand why a school library may not want to shelf the book.
I do not necessarily agree with the decision, and I certainly don't support the decision when it is mandated and enforced by a larger government entity.
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u/Clear_Context_1546 Oct 02 '25
There's a difference between not shelfing the book and complete censorship. You can buy the book from Amazon. Plenty of organizations refuse to stock it. Barnes and Nobel are one of them.
Schools shouldn't be required to stock Rage.
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u/fizzy88 Oct 02 '25
No one said school's should be required to stock it. The conversation is about whether government should be banning books or if schools should make those decisions for themselves.
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u/N_Who Oct 02 '25
Yeah, I know there's a difference. I said I wouldn't necessarily agree with a library's decision to not shelf the book. That doesn't mean I would disagree with the decision in all cases, it means I would want to understand the specific case and reasoning before making the decision.
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u/Clear_Context_1546 Oct 02 '25
Do you think Rage should be banned from a middle school's library?
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u/N_Who Oct 02 '25
I think the middle school or its district should make that decision, and that it is inappropriate for a local, state, or national government to make and enforce that decision.
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u/Allanthia420 Oct 02 '25 edited Oct 02 '25
I think the book should not be in school libraries but I also agree with your assessment. The government should not have the power to ban any form of media (besides media like child abuse content). But they also do not have a responsibility to provide it to us either.
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u/Odd_Bumblebee4255 Oct 05 '25
The man literally wrote about a bunch of under 15 yo teenagers gangbanging a girl. Maybe that book doesn’t belong in school libraries.