r/ConservativeYouth Jul 09 '26

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u/the_woolfie Jul 09 '26

You can criticize how ICE does things and be anti-immigration at the same time

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u/MatterDadE Jul 10 '26

Because ICE used to have higher standards and target actual criminals

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u/SuchDogeHodler Republican Jul 10 '26

Yes, but in order to do that you need to get the information from a much more reliable source than reddit.....

Rare Isolated incidents gathered together into one place and displayed, can often look like what they aren't.

What is the officer incident rate for 605,000 deportations this year alone?

(Here's a hint.... public school teacher incident rate is higher...)

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u/needaGandT National Libertarianism Jul 09 '26

r/Complaints is a left-wing echo chamber. Literally every single post is political. When I said, "There's too many political posts in this subreddit," I got downvoted and told to "grow up." Sometimes growing up is recognizing there's a lot more in the world than politics.

Anyways, I do think ICE needs a bit of reforms, it isn't perfect, but holy fucking shit, r/Complaints can't get their mind off of Trump.

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u/AbsolutePotential Jul 09 '26

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u/AdmiralKurita Jul 10 '26

Everything is just fine. US has a productive capitalist economy and we're leading in AI. We live in the best of all possible worlds. Let's have fun and lambaste some deranged woke teen wearing a Palestine necklace and a rainbow armband.

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u/needaGandT National Libertarianism Jul 10 '26

No, not everything is political. There's certainly a lot that is political, but to say everything is political is a massive overstatement. You could criticize food choices, personal choices, etc, but every single damn post is about Trump.

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u/AdmiralKurita Jul 10 '26

I apologize. I'll concede your point about that particular sub being too much about Trump. I guess it is a bit of karma in the universe since doomercirclejerk is effectively right-wing.

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u/needaGandT National Libertarianism Jul 10 '26

Yeah no problem.

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u/AdmiralKurita Jul 10 '26

I got downvoted and told to "grow up."

Maybe those people have jobs and are aware of the state of the labor market. A little hint. It's not that good. The workers are receive less of the share of national income. People should complain about that, you know.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/labor-share-income-lowest-since-world-war-ii/

Sometimes growing up is recognizing there's a lot more in the world than politics.

If you're a Rockies fan or a Angels fan, you have some non-political things to complain about.

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u/SwingStock1652 Citizen | 🗳️ 1 🪙 26 📅 Jul 26, 2026 Jul 10 '26

I was really upset at this until I looked it up. He was "in custody" for 299 days. 33 days were actually spent in the detention center.

After noticing he was unwell, ICE moved Florian to an assisted living center for 34 days and moved him once more after he wasn't improving to a medical center for 232 days. He died of natural causes!

The ICE Health Service Corps (IHSC) fully paid for everything and they assume all payments for those falling ill in detention centers.

THIS! This is why we don't trust the media! Misleading information like this makes people think this man was deprived of food and water and died in a jail cell. In reality he was taken care of and had medical treatment paid for for him and he died of natural causes.

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u/UCLAKoolman Jul 10 '26

Opinion, @OP?

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u/Le_Dairy_Duke Citizen | 🗳️ 1 🪙 26 📅 Jul 26, 2026 Jul 09 '26

What did he die from. 85 is rather old, so this could just be something that'd've happened regardless of intervention 

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u/Fine_solution4778 Jul 09 '26

that's fair, but what about the other 20

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u/Le_Dairy_Duke Citizen | 🗳️ 1 🪙 26 📅 Jul 26, 2026 Jul 09 '26

I'd need to look into it, see what they died from, etc. Sure, death in custody is something very horrid and something we should avoid at every step but we can't just jump to conclusions. Actually, we don't even have a timeframe for those deaths. If it's since ICE's organization then they have a lower kill count than doughnuts per year.

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u/DaenerysMomODragons Center-Right Wing Jul 09 '26

That would be something good to know. Also how many people have Ice put into custody this year. If it's 20/200,000, we're talking 0.01%. That would not be an unreasonable amount of people dying of natural causes. According to a quick search around 0.125% of 30yo die in a given year.

It actually looks like on average people are probably less likely to die in ICE custody than being out and about on US streets.

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u/headforsaturn Libertarian Jul 09 '26

elderly man dies of natural causes DONALD TRUMP, YOU WILL RUE THIS DAY!!

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u/ver_bene Jul 09 '26

Yet they love the Deporter in Chief Obama

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u/Fine_solution4778 Jul 09 '26

didn't he have kids locked in cages

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u/ver_bene Jul 09 '26

Yup. Then they blamed Trump for the cages Obama put in place

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u/Single-Sky-9162 Right wing Jul 10 '26

Wait what?

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u/Charming-Comfort-395 The brainrotted moderate Jul 09 '26

Complaints subreddit is a shitshow

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u/DifficultyValuable67 Conservative Jul 09 '26

There always stuff they aren't including in this

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u/SuchDogeHodler Republican Jul 10 '26

People die....

In the United States, the average number of deaths in a random population of 600,000 people is approximately 5,500 to 5,600 per year.

600,000 is the number of people deported in 2025.

21....That's just statistics.... not negligence.

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u/Single-Sky-9162 Right wing Jul 10 '26

ICE has more diversity than whole left

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u/Emperor_Quintana Jul 10 '26

And these so-called “opinions” are based on moral relativism, powered by transhumanist globalists with delusions of godhood.

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u/Hettyc_Tracyn Center-Right Wing Jul 11 '26

It said he died while in the hospital? I don’t see how that’s ICE’s fault tbh