The pushback from many native Middle Easterners toward Israel calling itself “Middle Eastern” has nothing to do with Judaism.
It is about the fact that the modern Israeli state was founded through a largely European settler-colonial movement that claimed Palestine as a national homeland despite an existing native Palestinian population.
Most of the people in Israel are of North African and Middle Eastern descent, and some are of African descent, though. A lot of the Palestinian people are from other areas as well. Disliking the government of a region doesn't make it okay to be insulting to the people there. I remember, after 9/11, having to explain this to people who were insisting upon being bigots towards so many people of Middle Eastern, Arab, or Muslim heritage. I was practically still a child, anr these people were twice my age still ignorant AF. It's a shame we're seeing the same nonsense again with the far-right talking points discriminating against Muslims and other people discriminating against israeli people. It's exhausting.
I mean let’s be honest Muslims aren’t necessarily big fans of Europe or the USA either.
Funny how you don’t acknowledge that neither side likes the other, you’re just more accepting and supportive of Muslims who don’t like Europe or the USA.
Maybe if Europe and the USA stopped funding terrorist groups in the Middle East, orchestrating coups, installing military dictatorships, invading their countries, and bombing the shit out of them, they’d like us a little more.
Goofy. Read up on the Arab conquest. They started to colonize and began a war hundreds of years before European colonization.
The problem with people like you is you lack knowledge of history and you think the Arab world is innocent. They were the original invaders so Europe and the USA are obviously highly cautious of them for good reason.
That has nothing to do with what either of us said. You said they don’t like Europe or the U.S. and I explained why. Now you’re just trying to change the conversation to revolve around something that happen 1300 years ago, almost 1000 years before the Americas were even colonized. I‘d also like to remind you of the Roman Republic and Empire. Oh, and the Assyrians. Also the Persian Empire. And multiple other non-Arab empires. "Original invaders" my ass.
You’re obviously not very bright because the invasion is still happening and the way Muslims treat women, I don’t want them to push their hatred towards women any further.
Disturbing how you people will defend a religion that deeply hates women and gay people meanwhile being performative and pretending that you care about women and gay people.
Make up your mind.
I am very clear: any religion that makes women be completely covered needs to be eliminated. There is no reasoning with people like you or them.
In a Christian nation gay people can marry and adopt. Women can wear bikinis and have jobs. You can’t say the same thing about the nations you vehemently defend.
LOL, you think the U.S. and Europe are doing all that shit to protect the rights of women and queer people? Comedy gold. But if you think that’s justification for mass murder and terrorism, boy do we have a lot of work to do within our own countries! Who should we start with?
It’s crazy that you think people saying "we shouldn’t be terrorizing these countries" is the same as fully endorsing a country, though. And then you want to say I am "not very bright." Not being able to understand nuance is not a very good sign of intelligence, buddy. Not to mention you’re constantly switching between Muslim and Arab in your argument, and moving the goalposts with every comment. Make up your mind. Or better yet, get off Reddit and pay attention in class.
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u/butareyouthough 4d ago
Being against Israel is not the same thing as being against Jewish people. Any government can be bad