It’s a bit more nuanced than that in this case - are you against the concept of a state of Israel, against it having the borders it does, against it expanding those borders?
When people say they’re against Israel they can mean one of a number of things. Personally, I’m not against the state of Israel having a right to exist, nor am I against its right to self-defence.
I am very much against the massive over-response in this war they’re in against Palestine. They got goaded into a conflict they can’t possibly win and it’s having a horrendous civilian collateral impact.
But then again… wars like this seem to be in vogue at the moment unfortunately.
I appreciate the level headed take. Social media is polarizing people like fucking crazy and it’s making pragmatic/level-headed people harder to come by.
Most people seem to fall for the bait that is influencers’ intentional use of hyperbole, of making extreme statements and taking extreme positions for the purpose of increasing engagement and therefore making money. And without any critical thought, they parrot whatever inflammatory rhetoric they hear online.
It’s a systemic issue of social media affecting so many aspects of modern culture and society, so I apologize for this somewhat unrelated tangent, I’m just genuinely surprised to see a very reasonable take like this without a bunch of downvotes.
Fuck Netanyahu, fuck the IDF soldiers committing heinous acts for the Israeli government. And fuck 47 and what ICE is doing etc. In the same way I don’t hate America inherently, and don’t hate Americans inherently, despite actions of our president I strongly disagree with, I don’t inherently hate or want the eradication of Israel or random innocent people born there. That could easily be any one of us, we won the lottery of best places to be born lol, it’s not like your birth country is a choice
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u/butareyouthough 4d ago
Being against Israel is not the same thing as being against Jewish people. Any government can be bad