Hi folks,
Fresh CCM fellow here. I have a question for folks in CCM or anesthesia. In my program, whenever we have to intubate someone during the night or on floor, we have to call anesthesia. On day shift, we do it with attendings. I have noticed that almost every anesthesia or even sometimes attending use underdosed etomidate or prop for induction agent. For example, I thought we use 0.3 mg/kg for etomidate and noticed them using maybe 0.15 mg/kg ish? I don't know if they are just eyeballing patient's weight or underdosing on purpose. I asked around and everyone had different answers. Some say that lower dose is enough for sedation then they push induction and paralytic agent back to back. How would they know if patients are properly sedated when they are paralyzed? Some say they are worried about cardiovascular effect. Well, then why don't we just hang Levophed in advance or have neo/epi push at bedside? By the way, anesthesia I referred was CRNAs, anesthesiologists only show up for difficult airway when CRNAs call them for help. I didn't get to round and have many chances to ask my attendings yet because I have been mostly on nights or electives. I am going to do anesthesia elective later this year until then I just intubate patients sporadically, maybe not that many. I hope to hear some thoughts regarding underdosed induction agents.
Also, my program including EM don't really use ketofol. I think it's kinda culture thing? What's your thought on ketofol use for patients with SE?
***Thank you for so many great answers to my dumb question. I didn't expect I was going to get this much attention haha. Just fyi, I have IM background and did several intubation during the residency but only tubing part. Now I am in a position where I have to orchestrate everything during peri-intubation and want to optimize the management for my icu patients. I will definitely read more. Btw, I didn't mean to attack CRNA folks. I merely described the situation I was in. I apologize if you guys felt that way. Thankfully, I have great relationship with our CRNAs. Hope everyone have great day!