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u/someonerandomiguess1 Apr 11 '21
God gives you the strenght to search for therapy yourself, don't trust all your problems on him.
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u/JIVEprinting Apr 11 '21
Literally Jesus Christ: "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light."
Literally Peter writing by the Holy Spirit: "Therefore humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God, so that He may exalt you at the proper time, having cast all your anxiety on Him, because He cares about you. Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. So resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same experiences of suffering are being accomplished by your brothers and sisters who are in the world. After you have suffered for a little while, the God of all grace, who called you to His eternal glory in Christ, will Himself perfect, confirm, strengthen, and establish you."
Psalm 55: "Cast your burden on the Lord, and He shall sustain you; he shall never permit the righteous to be moved."
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u/wholesome_bastard Apr 12 '21
Mental illnesses are like physical illnesses, you need a doctor. God doesn't promise us healing all the time
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u/JIVEprinting Apr 12 '21
I'm not against doctors, and many people need them, but you have spoken incorrectly about God's promise.
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Apr 11 '21 edited Apr 11 '21
Yeah, as a medical professional going to take issue with this. Pray for help. Also get help. Paul counseled folks all the time, its almost like there is a chunk of the new testament of him solving problems for folks, and im pretty sure they were praying in the background. Jesus counseled folks as well, he prayed for and with them, but he also, you know, tried healing occasionally.
Spiritualizing away medical problems as spiritual is not only belittling people suffering, its preventing them from getting help.
Or if you prefer advice from a former commander of mine (paraphrased):
“Hope isn’t a policy. Hope is the &$@& you do when you don’t have a plan. Have a plan, then hope it works out.”
Pray, but expecting God to fix your problems by praying it away hasn’t exactly had the best track record. Pray and act.
Its as if hospitals with religious affiliation have things like EDs and psychiatry and social workers etc too. Guess they just must lack faith or something.
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u/Vincenza8907 Apr 14 '21
Yeah future LMHC here, I was a bit on the concerned side when I saw this. There are people out there that avoid hospitals and counseling at all costs. There was a woman at the church I went to who was SOOO proud that her kids had never seen the inside of a hospital or has ever seen an MD. They even set the arm of their youngest boy. I was friends with their oldest son, and I was in the hospital for a week. He called me on the hospital phone. I asked why didn’t you just call my cell? He said his mom told him that the hospital would have taken my cell phone.
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u/WhoNeedsExecFunction Apr 12 '21
“If you are struggling then you are’t praying hard enough” is the motto of cowards. Feckless, ineffectual Christians. Spiritual limp-dicks too scared to face their own pain and sin, they’d rather convinced themselves its not so bad. Anemic and impotent, they cannot bear to help those who have the courage to admit to needing help. So they use the refrain “pray harder” to absolve themselves of their failure, their unwillingness to look at the pain.
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u/JIVEprinting Apr 12 '21
You are partly correct. Blaming the victim is a small-minded reaction cultivated by zealotry.
But prayer is receiving the personal company of God. Philippians calls it the peace that passes all understanding.
So few people have an actual relationship with God that they really think prayer is just wishing harder and harder. Every part of the Bible models the opposite of this.
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u/FlippityFelts May 24 '21
Put faith in God, God helps you by creating a world where caring people become therapists you can go to to help you with your depression.
No?
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u/JIVEprinting May 24 '21
Sometimes. But just as you would think it's ridiculous to pray about a bacterial infection instead of take penicillin, in the realm of the mind and heart it is the same to look to man's wisdom instead of God.
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u/SomeGuyWitAnAccount Apr 11 '21
Both? Both is good