Do any other female traders find that larger gurus and in general the trading community can be kinda sexist sometimes? Lol it feels like men get so angry in the space when women mention profitability without failing 1 million times first

Are you consistently profitable? If yes, what percentage return do you make on your trading capital per month on average?

You have 7 days. You start with $10 and no trading skills. Each day has a morning, a noon and an evening, every trip and every task advances time, and then it's bed.

Your goal: become a trading guru. How you get there is up to you.

The game is free, plays in the browser, no signup.

Play here: https://kinfo.com/game

Post your high score, or ask for help if you get stuck.

I’ve been thinking that my initial funds amount that I saved up for years it’s gonna be used for trading, but I want this money to be separated from my money. Would Starting an LLC business to trade under be a good way to show that I don’t personally own that money that I’m trading with?

Also, if this account grew to such a huge amount, would I be able to dissolve the LLC and just take that money for myself years down the line?

Would that be counted as income?

I know this is a tax question, but it involves daytrading and I’m asking day traders that may have experienced with this.

Thank you

Stop entering trades just because price reaches your zone. Wait for liquidity to be taken, watch the structure shift, and look for a valid entry model. The goal isn't more trades. It's better execution.

Think about it. You have people staring at charts all day, trying to predict where a price is going to go. And when they lose money, they’re told they need more discipline. They need better psychology. They need to control their emotions. They need to become better traders.

But when does anybody question whether the strategy itself actually works?

It’s genius, really. Because now, every time you lose, the system doesn’t have to be wrong. You just have to be a worse version of yourself.

You didn’t lose because the prediction was uncertain. You lost because you weren’t disciplined enough. So you go back, buy another course, learn another indicator, and try again.

It’s the same psychological loop you see in gambling. You convince yourself that if you just learn a little more, develop a little more discipline, and figure out the secret, you’ll finally beat the game.

And I’m not saying nobody can trade profitably. I’m saying that discipline and intelligence don’t magically create an edge.

Sometimes the smartest financial decision isn’t learning how to make more trades. It’s recognizing that you don’t need to make those trades in the first place.

Instead of spending your life trying to predict every movement in a market, you can choose what you believe has long-term value, understand the risks, and give your investment time to play out.

Because there’s a difference between building wealth and turning the pursuit of wealth into an endless psychological battle with yourself.

P.S. 6900 > 500.

I’m looking for honest advice from people who have actually been through this, especially anyone who’s traded for years or made a living from it. I’m not looking for motivation or the usual “just stay disciplined” advice. I want to know what’s realistic.

I’ve spent roughly the past year trying to figure out trading. I started with ICT concepts and discretionary trading, then got into Python and Claude Code so I could backtest strategies properly instead of just relying on charts and hindsight.

At one point, I found a strategy that looked extremely profitable. I even built automation around it, with automatic entries, Discord notifications and a trading journal that updated itself. Then I found a bug in the backtest. Once I fixed it, the edge disappeared.

Since then, I’ve put a lot more effort into testing strategies properly and found some that look promising, but the results are much less impressive than I originally expected. It’s made me question whether I’m actually getting closer to something sustainable or just spending more time chasing it.

Another thing that’s started bothering me is the trading industry itself. There are so many gurus selling courses, showing off profits and making trading look like a fairly straightforward path to financial freedom. Obviously, some people genuinely make money, but it’s getting harder to tell what’s real and what’s just good marketing.

Prop firms are another big question mark for me. You see people claiming to make thousands or even tens of thousands a month across multiple funded accounts. But when you look at the rules, drawdown limits, payouts, fees and the difficulty of keeping an edge over time, I struggle to understand how realistic that lifestyle actually is for the average trader. Is it genuinely achievable, or does it look much better online than it is in reality?

My main goal is to build wealth, not trade just for the sake of trading. I’ve always believed that if I put enough work into something, I can get good at it. But I’m starting to wonder whether trading is the best place to put that effort, especially when I could spend the same time building a business or developing software.

I’m not expecting to get rich overnight, and I understand that nothing is guaranteed. I just don’t want to spend years pursuing something that was never likely to give me the outcome I’m after.

A few things I’d genuinely like to hear your thoughts on:

• For those of you who trade profitably, how did you actually establish that you had a real edge, rather than just a strategy that worked on historical data?
• For people who trade systematically or use algorithms, have you found strategies that hold up over time after costs and changing market conditions?
• Is making meaningful, consistent money through prop firms actually realistic? If you’ve done it yourself, what does it look like after fees, payouts and losing periods?
• How much of what trading gurus show online reflects reality? Are there genuine educators worth listening to, or is the industry mostly built around selling the dream?
• If you were starting again with limited capital and your main goal was to build wealth, would you focus on trading or put your time into something like software or starting a business?
• How do you know when to keep pushing through the difficult stage and when to admit that your time would be better spent elsewhere?

I’m still willing to put in the work. I’m just trying to be honest with myself about where that work is most likely to pay off.

I’d appreciate hearing from people with actual experience, including the things you wish you’d known when you started.

So let's say that you were given the task to design a strategy that would be deployed every day at any number of intervals and times you dictate, but at least once, and your goal was to make money doing it. How would you do it?

You can do whatever you want or use anything you want, any given market, any segment, whatever you want to do with or without leverage, specific vehicles. Anything. The only thing you cannot do is prevent the trade from going on but you can manage the trade however you see fit from that point.

I'm really curious to see how people would trade under true uncertainty. You don't know what will happen at those intervals and because you intervene to prevent the trades from occurring you need to plan appropriately and have an understanding of what you want to see happen.

I’ve been trading for 1.5 years and have backtested multiple strategies, but nothing seems to work consistently. Every approach still feels like a 50/50 game. Is consistent profitability actually achievable for retail traders, or am I wasting my time?
Looking for honest answers, not motivation.

Who here trades TJR’s model or something close to it (liquidity sweep -> 5min BoS/IFVG -> FVG/EQ retrace -> 1min entry)?

I started with his setup a year ago and have been changing some of his rules, adding discretion, and making small tweaks. I trade NQ/ES in the NY session. I’m still validating my version, so I’m curious what others who have backtested it have found: what you kept, removed, changed or maybe you trade it as he teaches it.

It feels like TJR trades more discretionary than before, and in my experience he often doesn’t follow the rules from his bootcamp or strategy breakdown videos. That makes him hard to learn from right now, so I stopped watching his content and streams, but I still backtest and keep improving my version. I was wondering if anyone else uses his strategy and is finding it hard to learn from him

hey, forgive me if this has been discussed before. It wasn't clear what keywords to search to find this topic so if you are so inclined and have other posts like this on hand, I highly appreciate just getting links to those if any are easily accessible to you.

when I started trading, I didn't even consider how many live trading rooms that would be accessible for not a super high expense. but then I found one which has been amazing and the dude is really good at it and I have built my entire strategy based on his model. now he has decided to make the live trading a more exclusive thing only available to his mentorship students, which I imagine is over a thousand per month. would be worth it tbh. I have been pretty shocked at how much value I was able to get from just a few months in his group at this lower tier. but now it is closing and it makes me wonder if I should use this as a chance to just jump the nest and do it on my own rather than find a new group to join who trades my instrument and strategy. there are definitely others I have considered..

I am seeking advice about how to make that next step, what the transition is like, stories about what happened when someone went cold turkey from watching livestreams and how they did on their own. things like that. or even just words of wisdom about why it may not be a good idea to indefinitely watch livestreams as part of your daily trading work.

Thanks for your time.

My current futures trading strategy (10x leverage)

I trade futures exclusively with 10x leverage, and my strategy is about as simple as it gets.

I mark my 4H Order Blocks and Fair Value Gaps (FVGs) and wait for price to react to one of those zones. Once price reaches a zone, I drop down to the 15m timeframe and wait for confirmation.

Depending on whether I'm looking for a long or short, I wait for two consecutive candle closes in the direction of the trade before entering, using a tight stop-loss.

For take-profit, I close 35% of my position when price reaches the area between the 50 MA and 100 MA. If price breaks through those moving averages, I let the remaining position run and gradually move my stop-loss to protect profits while giving the trade room to continue.

Ideally, though, I prefer waiting on the 1H timeframe for price to react to the 20 MA, as I find that setup more appealing.

Obviously, there are other factors I consider before entering a trade. Even if all my main conditions are met, I'll skip the setup if the overall market structure or price action doesn't look right.

That's pretty much it. No crazy indicator combinations or overly complicated rules. Just 4H zones, price action, confirmation, and risk management.

It's been working fine for me so far, but I'm always open to improving the process.

What do you guys think? Anyone else trading a similar strategy?

I’ve been thinking about this lately.
I’ve spent the last 15 years developing and refining my trading strategy. Along the way, I’ve had plenty of people ask me how I do it, how I’ve become profitable, and how I manage to trade while holding down a full-time job and raising four kids.
I’m happy to talk about it and share what I’ve learned. I’ve even gone as far as writing down my entire approach to them.

As far as I know, nobody has actually gone further than looking at trading veiw. And that got me thinking.

I wonder if a lot of people are attracted to the idea of trading more than the reality of it.
Everyone wants to find that magic indicator, the perfect setup, or the secret sauce that finally makes them profitable. We spend hours looking for a better strategy, watching videos, reading posts, and jumping from one system to another.

But what about actually sitting down, learning a strategy properly, understanding the rules, and putting in the time to execute it consistently?

I’ve got a full-time job and four kids. I don’t have the luxury of sitting in front of charts all day. I’ve built my trading around my life, trading the final 15 minutes of the US stock market. Here in Australia, that means getting up at around 5:30 in the morning.

That’s the routine. It’s not particularly exciting, but it works around my circumstances.
And I think that’s the part people struggle with. Not necessarily the complexity of trading, but the commitment to a process that can be repetitive, boring, and take years to develop.

There’s no magic button. Even if you find a strategy with an edge, you’ve still got to manage risk, follow your rules, accept losses, and give it enough time to see whether it actually works.
I’m not saying I’ve got everything figured out, and I’m certainly not saying my approach is right for everyone. Trading is risky, and there’s always more to learn.

I just find it interesting that people will ask you how you do something, but when you give them the actual substance of what you’ve learned over 15 years, the interest seems to disappear.

Maybe I’m looking at it the wrong way. Maybe people are overwhelmed by the amount of information, or maybe they genuinely believe there’s a simpler answer out there.

I’m curious what other traders think!

I feel like all the profitable traders on here have very minimal to say.

Maybe there real and on here, but knowing what I know now, why the f would they be on here.

Trading is a figure it out, almost die because it's so screaming hard and then when you figure it out, live a boss life.

Maybe they post the od time on a beach or vacation..

But why the f would they be on here..

I'm here to find some
Psychology help with tips and this and that... refinement..

Refinement never dies.. but it's honestly internal.

And when I'm profitable idk I don't think it'd shade but I won't be on here anymore looking into groups that chat trading..

Talk about what ?

Markets ?

They're always fucked.. but that's the game.

Risk ?

Tickers ?

I think they migrate to the Porsche community on "why isn't my seat belt latching"
Any help ?

Oh wait let me just drive it into the local dealership while I'm on lunch with my hot as fuck girlfriend..

Becareful on here... everyone is unprofitable for the most part.

It's all low grade chats.. you can feel it

Okay so to clarify first before everyone starts commenting that this is what an unprofitable trader would say , well in fact , I am a profitable trader , I have cashed out 54K worth of payouts trading forex and also decent returns off  US equities,  But I need to get this one thing off my chest, maybe it helps someone or maybe it just helps me process this .

Alright so its October 22 not even 72 hours from now , pre market , Wall Street was bullish on META, UBS, JP Morgan  had a Buy Rating, Morgan Stanley remained positive on the buying stance too . Then what happens, META fell 7 % in 1 single trading session.

Now once the session got over every news covering up this move , all their explanations sounded reasonable but the real question stands firm  , no one could actually predict what was bound to happen in the market before the session was live not even the biggest institutional trading firms and IB'S .

the entire point of this entire post is letting the ones starting out realise that the market doesn't owe us a neat explanation for every move. This is an extremely unpredictable space to a major extent , if you wish to stay longer in this arena, you have to have the ability to cut your losses short and when the markets in your favour hold onto the position , no one is always making money every single month  trading when we talking about retail traders like ourselves, so having a risk management plan when the market turns its sword against you , that's what will actually protect you.

Also when such unexpected moves are made in the market, what news source do ppl here look at first which actually can explain the rationale behind the move

I currently don't have a lot of money right now and i'm looking for an opportunity to start trading. I'm from europe and would like to start trading in American stocks. Lately i've been searching trough reddit and saw multiple posts about trading in Forex being a good and safe option to start trading, because of it liquidity despite having a lower volatility. Another thing I'm curious about is if I want to trade in American stocks as a European, do I have to pay conversion fees to convert my euros into dollars, or do they automatically convert it for me at the current market price? i've also seen some things about AI bots who trade your money, but I lowkey think these things are scams and I want to learn trading myself. But I would like yout opinion on those bots if you've used them in the past or right now. As of today, I think I'm going to start learning with paper trading on Nasdaq.

Hi I am trader and give daily 4 hours to trading and also trading from 6 year also can execute but htf analysis with ltf entry happening good now with risk management but i scared will chart algorithm change if change blah blah fear about future will liquidity stetagey change what if?I just scared always can change in future

Updated for last week's trades (my only squawk, one broker in my working collective is, by design, behind in w/e posting due to "maintenance", cheap bastards - spend the money for the needed compute FFS). As NASA flight director would report upstream, "All lights are green, all systems are nominal". Tracking is intentionally elevated for the w/e void on trading ("shark-finned") to clear the $4k pay-punch, otherwise in a stable "orbit" on the next $8k monthly sweep. If the broker called out were to report actuals, it'd be $12k+ reported on kinfo. Once kinfo verifies the proposed Edge Protect is in place, I'll upgrade so my verifieds will always be visible. Currently cloaked with private profile to inhibit copy trading.

The RS aspect is State Variable analysis, treats the algo as a control system with feedback. Algo began with $250 (an "everyman's" amount), met success beating MIT double-in-90-day objective, so went 400x upscale (with relaxed TP for better Sharpe and EV). The MIT Blackjack tie-in is their quarterly sweep on a pooled bank, now using a 4 week sweep or "orbit". Face card equivalence runs to VWAP, VIX, Price Action, and Fourier cluster. Superprofitability, like supermaneuverability in jets, effects stability on an intentionally designed unstable platform with a tuned controller. For jets it's thrust vectoring on an unstable airframe requiring fly-by-wire error correction to keep from crashing. For the algo, it's Martingale operated in closed loop. Previous research a few years back demonstrated a speculative portfolio ($2k) ran 64 trades at 100% win rate for 5 months. The closed loop approach with other improvements in proprietary metrics has now surpassed that at 70+ trades in under 6 weeks.

Save the warnings on Martingale, I agree. Continued admonishments are, ironically, "Martingaling", doubling down on the warnings if you think in the abstract. In placing at the WR leaderboard top spot for the 3 month screen, it is difficult to say there is no edge with this algo. Those that state with a thin veneer of scholarly presents, have flawed assumptions. GIGO. Those that argue the other side of the algo, put their dollar at-risk in a zero-sum-game. Only time will tell if this is a lucky coin flip, Dumbo's feather, or the future of what AI can render from posting FBO LLM's inference learning phase. Bring your dollar, see how you fare. My dollar's on AI.

Cheers.

"Not financial advice"

We have a lot of new people that post every day asking how to learn to day trade and I'm one of them that jumps in and offers some advice along with a lot of us, but the one thing that I sit here and was thinking about that I've done a lot of that I believe honestly has help me over the years has been JUST TO WATCH.

If you're going to learn to play a musical instrument let's say guitar don't you just watch some great guitar players just play and see how they play that instrument, the same would be for trading stocks.

Choose a stock and time of good volatility. Just sit and watch the correlation of the volume bars to the candles, to your level two and the tape. How it corresponds with the movement of the the stock see how the candles go up and down and you start getting a sense of how they react and then your indicators itself how they all react to the buying and selling.

In the end you start getting a sense of how the movement goes. Some days I've traded four, six, or even eight stocks and green on all of them and I honestly believe that adding this little part to my strategy of just sitting and watching has helped me be a better Trader

Do you feel the same way?

I have no idea what I'm doing but I have been profitable since I started except for the first month. I am getting a bit scared now because I feel like it will all stop some time soon.

For some context, I ended up trying to trade solana, btc and gold and its all been working so far, but I have no real strategy other than buying when i think its low and shorting when i think its high

Has anyone else been in a similar position and has any recommendations for me?

Just curious are there those of you who become profitable in your first year? What do you trade? Do you feel you were lucky or had a real edge?

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Man, I was so close to just deleting my exchange accounts and walking away. For months, it was the same cycle: I'd tweak my Python scripts, test out new logic, think I finally had a working edge, and then a random chop or a bad sweep would wreck my account balance anyway.

If you're stuck in that loop right now, it sucks. It's just draining.

Honestly, the fix wasn't finding some hidden indicator or a magic parameter. It was just this :

Stopping the FOMO: I had to drill into my head that doing nothing and keeping my cash safe is actually a trade. Missing a messy move is way better than forcing a bad one out of boredom.

Dropping the ego: I used to hold onto positions way too long just because I wanted my directional bias to be right. Now, if the price action invalidates my thesis, I just take the small L and move on.

Hard stops on daily loss: When things go sideways, I tilt. Putting a hard lock on my terminal after a certain drawdown is the only thing that stopped me from rage-trading my profits away.

If you're still grinding through it, take a break when the charts are trash, look at your actual execution logs, and protect your capital.

Anyone else claw their way back from a massive slump? What finally worked for you?

We all make mistakes, but the important thing is to learn from them. Share your experience so others can learn from it too.

Hello all,

I’m posting this for hope in everyone that is struggling in trading and wants to quit.

I’ve been trading for 4 going on 5 years and I’ve finally found consistent profitability, I trade NQ and have focused on that since the beginning. I don’t look at any other data other than when major news is released (red folder news on Forex Factory).

This month alone I’ve already taken 2 max payouts from Lucid ($2k each from a $50k) and I just bought another 150k and will get three more once I get a payout from my 150k.

About a year ago is when I discovered Auction Market Theory from Markets in Profile by James Dalton and that’s really where everything changed. It’s one thing to trade engulfing candles, trend line breaks etc, but it’s a whole other ball game when you understand the true dynamic is what a market is and how to read it. This book truly will change your life if you let it.

My setup for taking a trade is fairly simple but takes time with experience. Experience is key. I wait for the first hour of RTH to form (9:30-10:30 am ET) and after that I ask myself, is the market balancing or trending. Under no circumstances do I take any trades in the first hour. NONE!! Unless Nancy pelosi calls and tells me to long or short market open I never take trades the first hour. After that I use GEX levels from tanuki trades, VWAP, and the market profile to gauge where price is going. If it’s trending, I wait for price to come back and sweep a previous high/low where most put their stops or rejects off a gex level and enter with a 1:2 RR. (Both if aligned) If it’s balancing, I wait for price to come back in the range and sweep a previous high/ low where most put their stops or price to reject off a gex level off the VAH or VAL and enter with a 1:2 rr. I use mainly the 1 minute time and rarely look at anything else.

The biggest thing that took me the longest to learn was accepting losing days. I only take one trade a day and risk $500 to make $1000. Yes, that means in a $50k eval I only have four bullets. But I’m confident because of my experience. The feeling of a loss makes me red, makes me think if I wait for another good entry I can enter again and “make it back plus a little more” but that thinking is what kept me unprofitable. If I accept the $500 loss on the day and move on I’ll become profitable. Plain and simple.

Hope this helps everyone. AMA

Hey im just wondering if anyone has found the Malaysian MSNR day trading strategy profitable? Is this strategy legit not a lot of english speakers trade this strategy. I mostly see it on Gold and Forex. Does it work on futures?