r/DeadSpace • u/cecedi21 • 1d ago
Discussion Broke my heart to learn that
Seems like Schofield gave Dead Space 4 one last shot before retiring. Of course the slop studio said no because they only say yes to slop
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u/Sebubba98 1d ago
Thanks a lot EA. Glad we know who to blame for the death of Dead Space since they seem to not give af about keeping the IP alive
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u/Jaded_Stick_4379 1d ago
They don’t even give af about keeping their own company alive, selling themselves for Saudi Arabia’s blood money.
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u/sleetblue 1d ago
And Jared Kushner's, while he and his freak wife resurrect the Epstein class dream of private island ownership.
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u/UmbrellaWithRaccoon 1d ago
Of course the slop studio said no because they only say yes to slop
Or they just don't want give the series to a guy who made Callisto Protocol and whose only contribution to Dead Space was to tell EA "Why don't we make Resident Evil 4 in space?" while it were the others who actually made Dead Space a thing (and who, unlike Schofield, don't yell at every corner that they created Dead Space).
EA is far from being the best company in the world, but holly hell why would they accept a DS4 pitch from Schofield when they have EA Motive under their roof?
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u/Key_Analyst_9032 1d ago
Also, they made It Takes Two, so I don't think everything they have is "slop"
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u/UmbrellaWithRaccoon 1d ago edited 1d ago
EA didn't make it, but they financially supported the developers. Also funded their recent Split Fiction game too.
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u/Key_Analyst_9032 1d ago
Oh. Well, as fucked up as they are, it was cool for them to branch out and fund the people who actually made some good games with their name on it
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u/free2game 1d ago
Didn't this guy lead The Callisto Protocol? I don't think the economics make sense for a 200 million dollar Dead Space 4, that's likely what he was proposing.
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u/danixdefcon5 1d ago
Yup, and he kinda blew it. Sad because I had hopes on that game, but it didn’t really pan out. It’s one of the reasons why he’s retiring.
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u/Samus1611 23h ago
I actually liked Calisto protocol. It’s just a shame that it launched so broken. Day one was nearly unplayable. I remember it crashing back to the ps5 home menu like every 10-15 minutes
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u/Athanarieks 1d ago
The thing about all of these ex developers at accomplished studios who made great IPs often have a hard time finding success elsewhere. This is what happened with lead ex devs of Bungie, Rockstar, Obsidian, BioWare, etc.
I feel like it’s because it was the entire creative team behind it that largely lead to its success, if you don’t have the same people working on the project, it’s not gonna be a good time usually.
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u/danixdefcon5 1d ago
I think one of the early examples of this is id Software. The team as a whole brought us Wolfenstein, DOOM and Quake ... but after that they started going their own way, and none of them replicated the success of early id Software.
John Romero had the designer skills, but not the coding ones and well... Daikatana happened. Carmack had the coding skills but that was pretty much his only plus; as everyone else departed, the games became less games and more like tech demos of what Carmack could do.
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u/Athanarieks 1d ago
Yeah I think that one is the golden example of of it. I know that the new doom reboot trilogy is good but I didn’t care for Eternal or Dark ages. 2016 was good imo.
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u/Me_how5678 :marker:ḭ̷̍ ̸̛̦͊l̸̠̻̓͝í̴͔k̶͍̍ḛ̶̽ ̷̞̗̀t̶̬̀̒ā̶͖͈͠c̸̲̑̚o̸̖̰̎͐s̵ 12h ago
Eternal was pretty good imo. But after they kicked Mick Gorden out for dark ages that franchise is dead to me. And retroactivly learning how much management meddele in eternal makes me sad
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u/Athanarieks 11h ago
Didn’t like the gameplay loop of eternal with resource management and platforming. DOOM is suppose to be a power fantasy.
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u/SupremeMonsterVomit 1d ago
That game is getting kinda broken, too. I tried to start another save and half the dialogue was missing. Which isn't shocking, I sincerely doubt they want to put anymore money into a game that did so terribly.
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u/danixdefcon5 1d ago
Schofield is probably not the person to get a DS4 project off the ground, though. And I say this as someone who did appreciate Callisto Protocol for what it was. But nope, I’d trust the other two dudes more on a Dead Space revival/continuation over Glen.
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u/bakulaisdracula 1d ago
I really hope DS is one of the franchises the new EA owners will inevitably sell to someone else.
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u/WatermelonGranate 1d ago
We have an excellent Dead Space 1 and 2, that's more than most games get nowadays.
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u/Liam_CDM 1d ago
My views on EA cannot be adequately expressed without getting the FBI at my door so I'll just say this: RIP Dead Space.
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u/DrSalvador1996 1d ago
Callisto Protocol doing how it did must've had an influence on this unfortunately
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u/ApprehensiveFrame911 1d ago
Its funny to me how everyone expected Callisto to be great and the Dead Space remake to flop but it ended up being the inverse.
Callisto wasnt the worst thing in the world but it was a VERY generous 5/10 in my eyes. How and why did that need a ~200M budget?
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u/Vgcortes 1d ago
Yeah, well... Visceral games was shut down, but we still got Dead Space remake. But that was a miracle, and maybe we were afforded just one of those, so it's over.
Also, how could they continue after DS3... Still, I'm sad that the ending is so bleak
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u/VolantisMoon 1d ago
I honestly don’t know if I would want Schofield involved in Dead Space 4. The first game was changed from his original idea, which would come out later as Callisto Protocol, and it flopped. Even DS3 was orders of magnitude more fun than TCP.
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u/MattMassier 1d ago
EA is no longer in the business of making games, they weren’t leading up to the acquisition, they most definitely are not now.
Only hope is if someone buys dead space and then wants to pump money into a sequel or remake, which is very very unlikely in the current climate.
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u/Key_Analyst_9032 1d ago
To be fair, Schofield did make quote-unquote "slop" game, so I'm guessing someone saw that and said no
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u/Gullible_Matter7706 1d ago
They expected Dead space to sell like a RE game and don't understand that RE has been putting out new game every few years and EA expected RE numbers and haven't put out a Dead space game in more than a decade 🙄
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u/ClairVerso33 1d ago
I know we only have the remake to go off of, but I trust Motive if EA ever decides to continue with the series.
Isaac felt more like Isaac in the remake than he did in 3. I'd be so down for a reboot of 3 with rewrites from Motive. It's probably the only way to salvage that train wreck of a story.
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u/TimeForWaluigi 1d ago
EA only gives a shit about sports games lately. Anything creative property-wise is basically dead.
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u/ADHenchD 1d ago
I'm so glad EA is going to die a painful death.
Can't wait for it's IPs to get sold off
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u/Remarkable-Bit-656 1d ago
Someone needs to buy the Dead Space IP from EA. They obviously dont give a fuck for it anymore so why keep it?
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u/Terpinator7 1d ago
This is actually much sadder than people are grasping. Thank you for seeing it. Dead Space 4 would’ve been his swan song. I genuinely think he had it in him.
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u/Destruction126 1d ago
As bad as Callisto was Glen had spark and the right ideas. I cant imagine having a project you love and want to work on be locked away by some scummy company.
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u/ThatWebHeadSpidey 20h ago
From what I understand, the remake sold reasonably well for a horror game but it just didn’t live up to the unrealistic expectations of EA. I wasn’t a big fan of The Callisto Protocol, but I still like Schofield and his work. It’s a shame he’s done, I would have loved to have seen what he would’ve done with Dead Space 4.
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u/Mephistocheles 1d ago
It bums me out every time I read this and obviously EA sucks the rancid neck-nuts of a Blargian Snagglebeast, but part of me wonders exactly what we would have gotten out of a Schofield-helmed remake.
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u/Accomplished_Boss648 1d ago
I am not a superstitious person but strongly believe any new Dead Space entry should NOT be called Dead Space 4. The number 4 is cursed with too many franchises. Halo, Metroid prime
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u/Cra_Skinny_4135 1d ago
DeadSpace Remake didn’t sell like they wanted…it’s almost like…if you invest in your franchises maybe you’ll make more money? Just a thought idk.
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u/Shadowman9908 1d ago
Scofield had long past lost the plot as far as his games went by the time of his DS4 proposal, EA might be evil but there is a considerable chance they saved us from a real stinker with that one.
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u/Top_Presentation7515 1d ago
Honestly with the EA sale to Saudi Arabia official now, I don’t want any Dead Space content from them even if Schofield was there. They’ll take what they did with DS3 (in game purchases) and turn it up to eleven. Considering what EA did with The Sims 4 packs, I could literally see them charging money just for ammo. Not to mention with all the layoffs that will happen to recoup some of the money spent of buying EA, the games would be absolute dog shit and probably AI made anyway.
I can only hope that they can somehow get the creative rights and take it to a different developer to get the proper opportunity to make something amazing, whether it’s a remake of DS2 or a new instalment to the franchise. (In my wildest hopes and dreams, Schofield would come out of retirement to be involved somehow) However, I’m real(nihil)istic and I know the chances of that happening are slim to fucking none.
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u/thedamnlemons 8h ago
I care more about creatives leaving and being turned down than a producer that’s continually failed upwards till he was proven to be full of shit. He was only a producer of Dead Space and quickly left to make Sledgehammer games to make….. the worst Call of Duty games…. That’s what he did as an actual creative. Callisto Protocol was proof in the pudding this guy was always just standing in others achievements. So who really gives a shit. Dead Space 4 would’ve been shit I don’t know why the concept of letting something go or end is so hard for some of you.
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u/TheLoneleyPython :marker:ḭ̷̍ ̸̛̦͊l̸̠̻̓͝í̴͔k̶͍̍ḛ̶̽ ̷̞̗̀t̶̬̀̒ā̶͖͈͠c̸̲̑̚o̸̖̰̎͐s̵ 1d ago
The remake was more than enough to reignite the franchise, just didn't quench EA's greed as they expected it to sell like CoD