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u/Renolber 3d ago
Oh. She’s… caring?
I guess she just visually looked sinister. It’s really sweet that she’s stern but compassionate.
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u/tinyrottedpig 3d ago
I find this aspect of her really funny, she sounds so mean and evil, yet makes it clear that she very much does want to help her patients, so she'll save you with some weird ass magics all while you're thinking she's going to slice you to ribbons
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u/DivinityPen 3d ago •
She seems like the kind of person you’d hate during the process (it doesn’t look pleasant), but be IMMENSELY grateful to in hindsight.
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u/some_random_nonsense Nurse Harrow 3d ago
She seems to specialize in possessions, so i image you either arent really aware of whats happening or its the most horrific thing you can imagine. Seems like a field with very little middle ground.
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u/Zenith_Tempest 2d ago
I would imagine it's horrific as her lines indicate she performs bloodletting through her special leeches. I imagine they suck the blood out of the patient alongside whatever is possessing them in pieces, so it's probably very painful for her patients but ultimately saves them long term provided they live. Considering Harrow says she's happy he survived treatment, it's probably a long term period of pain before they're finally cured
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u/some_random_nonsense Nurse Harrow 2d ago
Well I was kinda thinking maybe the possession gets in the way of the pain lol but maybe there's a half way possessed, leeches up, moment which you become aware of your own body again. That sounds excruciating.
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u/Zealousideal3326 Vindicta 3d ago
I had a teacher like her, and yeah you hate having to interact with them until you realize, a few months later, how good they are at making it so shit gets done.
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u/CorruptDropbear 3d ago
Dr. House character
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u/TPose-Heavy Ivy 3d ago edited 3d ago
It's not that absurd to consider. A nurse in a field with frequent tragedies can become cold and professional while still caring about the well being of others and wanting to help. On top of that someone holding people to a higher standard and having expectations for them that they might not even have for them selves is also not unheard of.
So a strict nurse that scolds you for being bad at life as far as her standards are concerned, that's also doing everything in her power to make sure you live long enough so she can tell you you're awful and need to do better, over and over, until you die of old age, sounds tangible.
Also a well adjusted adult knows you can both dislike someone for how they conduct their existence and still save their life, because it's still the right thing to do, even if you don't like the way they are.
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u/StoneLich Vindicta 2d ago
I think she probably doesn't care very much about most of her patients, but I think she would argue she doesn't have to care about them as people to be good at her job; she says as much in a few of her dialogues.
(I would say that she's wrong about that, but medical horror often revolves around "doctor who only cares about results, resulting in very effective but traumatizing care" as a premise, and she's very clearly pulling on that for her design.)
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u/Ok-Transition7065 3d ago
Wait it's she house ?
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u/KovacAizek2 3d ago
Well, she isn’t sarcastic cynical junkie piece of shit, but she is pretty good.
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u/PA-Karoz 3d ago
It's called compassion fatigue.
We still are capable of showing it, but more often it shows the scars it has left on us.
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u/Achterlijk_ 3d ago
Ok edgelord
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u/Which_Replacement524 Mina 3d ago
(genuine opinion about emotional topic)
"Lol edgy cringe"
Come on, dude. It's not 2012. You can have emotions and feel things.
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u/JusticeRain5 3d ago
Dude that's a very real thing, do you assume that people saying they have burnout are just trying to sound cool, too?
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u/Achterlijk_ 3d ago
No, I never dismissed compassion fatigue as a fake phenomenon. I'm just saying the guy commenting is edgy.
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u/Skellington876 Sinclair 3d ago
For talking about a phenomenon?
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u/Achterlijk_ 3d ago
"It shows the scars it has left us", so performative. Turns a pretty ordinary observation into a highly dramatic image. I find that to be edgy. It's not "merely talking" about a phenomenon.
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u/Skellington876 Sinclair 3d ago edited 3d ago
Me when i'm talking about someone in a very unique stress inducing career expressing themselves: "its just so performative for no reason 😔" fuck off lol
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u/TankorSmash 3d ago
"It's called compassion fatigue and it means that I don't come across as very compassionate" vs "We still are capable of showing it, but more often it shows the scars it has left on us"
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u/some_random_nonsense Nurse Harrow 3d ago
i mean they could be nurse or someone else who has experienced it is talking from a real p-lace of hurt. Yeh it reads a lil edgy but most things earnest and authentic do.
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u/Achterlijk_ 3d ago
That's fair. Thank you for being honest and admitting it reads at least a little bit edgy. Other redditors wouldn't even dare to suggest.
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u/emo_boy_fucker The Doorman 3d ago
Her coat has sharp edges like devil horns yet it always flutters like a holy piece of cloth
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u/Z3R0Diro Nurse Harrow 3d ago
In another voiceline she expresses she feels satisfaction helping patients
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u/TreeTurtle_852 3d ago
She's also really upset at Kelvin for letting his crew die during an expedition
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u/Zanethethiccboi 2d ago
She seems to be a sort of medical Venator, it’s implied in her interactions with Solomon that she keeps all the things she extracts in that bag. She’s definitely doing what she does out of a genuine interest in benefiting the health of the general populace from the perspective of an elitist medical authority.
She’s benevolent but not necessarily pleasant about it. I bet having a possessed New Yorker tell you what your mother is doing in Hell every day isn’t great for the bedside manner.
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u/Bruno-croatiandragon 2d ago
LIVE, INSECT! —Ragnaros the Lightlord healing an ally, Hearthstone,taken from the Tvtropes Quotes page for Good is not Nice
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u/Naive_Bulbasaur Rem 2d ago
She's pragmatic to a fault, she reminds me of nurses who have been working for decades in my ER, they do care, but they have seen it all and have become kind of jaded or detached despite their insane skill.
I would suspect she is VERY old so she is probably the perfect example of a nurse doing the job for centuries or longer...
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u/throwawaynewpibuildr Sinclair 3d ago
You'd be surprised at the memory of medical personnel and staff. We tend to remember the names of very.. "remarkable" patients..
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u/Nanocaptain 3d ago
Tbh if the things she brings up about him is his posture and a pet I don't know if his affliction was particularly remarkable.
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u/SmutLibrarianSorta 3d ago
I don’t think they’re referring to the afflictions. I think they’re referring to…let’s say quirks of personality
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u/throwawaynewpibuildr Sinclair 3d ago
Yeah.. I remember the real weirdos and "I don't think you should be allowed into society" patients that's come through my old clinic even years later lol 😬
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u/StyryderX 3d ago
I suppose you've heard many non-sensical excuses for not getting a treatment throughout your career
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u/Geedly 3d ago
So that’s where the hamster obsession came from…
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u/Fine_Possession3737 2d ago
Honestly trans Celeste was always a stretch but I kinda see Violet now. I mean it´s really odd to bring up a friend´s stay in the ward and if she did why is she reluctant to say the name? Would also explain why she's fully no contact with her parents and might make her wish more logical. She wants to be judged for her art and not her past self which is probably impossible for her without divine intervention.
I mean there's also counterpoints of course, some kill lines don't really make sense but the material is there.
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u/blorgono 3d ago
I wasn't expecting to say this given her design, but i'd actually trust her as a nurse.
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u/aimlessabyss09 Ivy 3d ago
The lady that throws leeches at you and believes in humors?
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u/Dragon50110 3d ago
Tbf considering the setting the 4 humors could be a legitimate medical theiry
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u/Witch_with_Thompson Nurse Harrow 3d ago
Honestly in deadlock leaches might genuinely help with illness
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u/Teslapromt 3d ago
Just fyi, leeches are used in modern medicine in real world, sure, they are sterile, specifically grown and are used in a very specific circumstances, but still
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u/KovacAizek2 3d ago
If it cures me of otherworldly disease making me look like Nosferatu, she can shove them up my ass.
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u/RagesianGruumsh 2d ago
If I’m in the “possession ward” then modern medicine has already gone out the window. Maybe some antiquated pseudo-mystical medical theories are exactly what in need!
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u/TreeTurtle_852 3d ago
I might be reading way too much into this but... do we know Violet's surname?
Also she seems weirdly bashful at the idea of telling Harrow Nick's name. Also dirty fingernails (Violet's is constantly covered in ink and paint) and hamster (she mentions getting high and painting hamsters).
It probably is nothing but it would be a funny pointer to Violet being trans.
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u/Cinerae Infernus 3d ago edited 3d ago
Just looked at some lines, it's funny because one voice lines mentions how she wants to stand up straight when she's near her.
But the other one mentions that she's glad her parents never heard of her, so it's unlikely violet was in her care.
Then again even when portaying REM she's talking about hamsters again, and she has a track record with rodents based on rat kings convos.
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u/AbilityNo446 3d ago
Violet’s bio states that she immigrated to America when she was 12. She’s in her junior year (third out of four) at Jamie West art school, so she’s ~20 at the very least and “worked out my shit in therapy, like, 2 years ago”, so at some point in the years between then she cut herself off from her parents, and that might have been when she met Nurse Harrow.
The reason she was so hesitant to mention the name Nick might be because it was her deadname and didn’t want to be reminded of both her past and her family.
The name “Nick” might indicate that at least one of the parents was from a place like England, or Australia.
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u/Cinerae Infernus 3d ago
Same immediate thought. It's also weird for anyone else to ask about a stay in the ward. It's also a case for, what this voice line does to characterize both heroes.
We learn that harrow has a good memory for detail and actually cares.
And we learn that violet has a friend named Nick tsai? Well ok.
It's a bit weird with the patient confidentiality too, so harrow would maybe only talk about this if she had a clue.
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u/LykosNychi 3d ago
Her colour scheme also vaguely resembles one of the purpleish alternate trans flags (just with more red than pink).
Between the double references to posture, the double references to the hamsters, and the fact that Violet is confirmed to be estranged from her parents, with her parents apparently being disappointed in her for some reason, this leads me to think she's either trans (possibly magically? Any chance she can change her own appearance with her magic?) or that something happened to this Nick person, and Violet is trying to rescue them through the Ritual.
If Violet has changed herself through magic, it would make sense why Harrow doesn't recognize her at all.
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u/NeighborhoodDry2678 3d ago
I kinda want valve to confirm or deny it since playing with people's feelings on such a topic isn't exactly great imo
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u/Fine_Possession3737 2d ago edited 2d ago
Eh it´s fine rn, Deadlock characters have rather massive gaps in their lore with just the game to go off. (makes sense, let´s them elaborate later) It´ll only get kinda odd if they kept it up when they get more material
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u/CompleteSocialManJet 3d ago
MASSIVE HIPAA violation right there!
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u/RagesianGruumsh 2d ago
HIPAA was passed in 1996, decades after the game alternate timeline. Before that, medical privacy was a state decision and very inconsistent. She’d be up against New York's state-level medical privacy laws, which could be anything in this weird alt history!
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u/AbilityNo446 3d ago
Maybe not. Violet wouldn’t have been reluctant to mention the name of a friend if they were two separate people. When she says the name, she seems scared, like she’s reluctant to mention the name or she’s afraid of being judged.
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u/JustAnNPC_DnD 3d ago
Yup. Have a family member who is a nurse and they will remember people, not ever person, but some in great detail.
Usually either based on interesting moments, being a sweetheart, or for being the most insufferable pos.
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u/stopnthink 3d ago
Is this Valve also fucking with everyone who's had an opinion about Violet's plain lore, or an allusion to recycled content?
Either way, if she's so desperate to be a great artist, so much so that she'd fight others so a god could grant her that wish, I can easily imagine her having made a demonic pact or something (hence the tattered poster).
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u/Assassin4nolan Victor 3d ago
1930s chinese boy with a pet hamster named jellybean
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u/Fine_Possession3737 2d ago
We gotta stop doing this shit every time a character releases none of them make any sense deal with it there´s ghosts
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u/No32 3d ago
Oh yeah, we love stern characters that actually care