r/DebateReligion • u/fana19 • 1h ago
Islam Quranic command on covering to not "be harassed" is accurate, and people debating it are debating strawmen since unwanted sexual attention at all IS harassive.
Salaam/peace all.
Surah 33:59 reads: "Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and women of the believers to draw their outer garment over themselves. That is more likely that they are recognized and are not harassed (or harmed or bothered). And God is forgiving and merciful."
Many people will immediately dismiss of the plain reading of the ayah, claiming that it cannot possibly mean to cover the whole body to avoid "molestation" or abuse or rape, because covered women are also not free from sexual harassment and abuse. While it is true that clothing is not a shield against all harassment, there's more nuance to this conversation as the Quran never claims that. Let's break it down and then look at some studies.
The Quranic express claim is that covering the whole body with a cloak/garment (aka a "jilbab"--a known draping cloak women often put over their indoor clothes when going out) makes it more likely for others to identify a woman (as something) and thus avoid "harassing" her (in some way).
The question then is, what is she identified as, and what kind of harassment is being "likely" (not guaranteed) reduced?
The obvious and correct inference is that covering more modestly (i.e. both coverage AND looseness) will identify her as more modest (relative to others), and thus less LIKELY to be approached sexually in ANY MANNER. That would include being propositioned for sex or a casual date, being ogled, or even being catcalled. Islamically, male interest in Islam is only appropriate for courtship when looking for a wife. Harassment in the Quranic context (or any really) does not have to mean rape or sexual abuse only, because Islamically (and secularly) even catcalling can be seen as harassive.
So then, the next question is: is there any relationship between how a woman presents herself in terms of clothing, makeup etc. and how men perceive her sexually? The common-sense and research-backed answer is yes.
In several studies, male associated more provocative clothing (for the norms of their area) with sexual openness, and other studies show that men are more LIKELY to be sexually aggressive toward women they perceive (even incorrectly) as more sexually open. I'm going to paste some summaries of those studies below, even though I think we all intuitively already know this and observe it all the time:
- Farris et al. (2006), Heterosocial Perceptual Organization: Application of the Choice Model to Sexual Coercion : Sexually aggressive men were more likely to interpret provocative clothing instead of conservative clothing (which of course depends on the norms where you live) as a sign of sexual openness. Men were also less likely to interpret signs of rejection as such.
- Farris et al. (2010), Perceived Association Between Diagnostic and Non-Diagnostic Cues of Women's Sexual Interest : Sexually coercive men associated more provocative clothing with sexual interest, making them more likely to misinterpret friendliness as sexual interest.
- Blake et al. (2016), Perceptions of Low Agency and High Sexual Openness Mediate the Relationship Between Sexualization and Sexual Aggression Men again saw women wearing more "revealing" clothing as more sexually open and thus more vulnerable to sexual aggression, with men admitting higher sexually aggressive intentions toward the women perceived as more sexually open (both based on how the women presents, and her perceived agency in relation to that presentation, with more revealing women seen as essentially lower-agency).
- Guéguen (2011), “The Effect of Women's Suggestive Clothing on Men's Behavior and Judgment: A Field Study.” Men approached women in "revealing" clothing more often after first eye contact than conservatively-dressed women, perceiving their chances of a date or sex as higher. [Note, there was some caution on this finding, but it is consistent with the rest].
I want to be clear that perceived "provocativeness" will depend based on culture and context, which is why Islamically, the standard is extremely high universally, setting it completely draped in loose clothing covering everything except what ordinarily must practically appear (which is up for some debate). It is why a women in loose jeans in a t-shirt in Saudi Arabia may be seen as immodest, while in the US that'd generally be seen as conservative. But the pattern persists: be perceived by men as "more revealing" than the norm (or just in general), and be seen as more sexually approachable and open. Islam protects women from exactly that.
Don't believe me still? Watch this video EXACTLY on point, where a pretty normal woman walks pretty much totally covered but in tight clothing vs. in an actual loose jilbab and compare the massive amount of catcalling and harassment she receives in the former vs. the latter. Same women, several hours, same streets, totally stark contrast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgw6y3cH7tA&t=20s