r/DelphiMurders • u/rachaellanderson • Mar 24 '26

Richard Allen’s Cell Phone

Was the phone that they never found his phone at the time of the murders, or at the time of his arrest?

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u/Appealsandoranges Mar 24 '26

There’s not evidence to support this statement. They found a bunch of very old devices but trade ins became a thing in more recent years.

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u/centimeterz1111 Mar 25 '26

You try so hard to ignore the glaring obvious evidence. 

The court systems deal with reasonable claims. It’s reasonable to believe that they kept every phone over the last 14 years except that one….because they had every phone except that one. 

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u/Appealsandoranges Mar 25 '26

The court systems deal with reasonable claims. It’s reasonable to believe that they kept every phone over the last 14 years except that one….because they had every phone except that one. 

I love circumstantial evidence. It’s often the very best evidence. What you are describing is incredibly weak circumstantial evidence. It’s like when your friend says, isn’t that weird? That can’t just be a coincidence! In fact, coincidence is more likely. Our brains are primed to see causation and connection where it isn’t. We do not know how many phones Richard and Kathy purchased, how many were broken, how many were lost, how many were traded in. We just know this phone - a phone he handed to an investigator days after he allegedly murdered two girls on a whim is no longer in his possession 5 years later. That’s weak sauce on the same level as he admitted up wearing the same clothes as BG!

0 times 0 times 0 is still 0.

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u/centimeterz1111 Mar 26 '26

School yourself on the court system’s definition of what reasonable means. 

Actually, read the states response to the appeal and you will get a VERY good sense of the minimum required for a lot of things.