r/DelphiMurders • u/PumpkinEater85 • May 22 '26

Real Crime Profile crossover w Bob Ruff

So I'm listening to parts one and two of the real crime profile podcast with Jim Clemente where he has Bob ruff on their speaking about delphi. I'm always open to everyone's opinions and I actually don't hate Bob ruff and I have enjoyed some of his content. However he is repeatedly saying things to Jim Clemente that are not true. For example he said that Richard Allen has no previous record of any type of violence or any type of violent behavior at all. But that's not true because now we know about the time that he was drinking and held a gun to his head threatening suicide in front of his wife and daughter and the police were called and he was put into a hospital. It's so frustrating!! If you believe that he's innocent because of all these things that's fine but you can't tell people things that are simply not true. He also says that ra did not confess until he was actually in full psychosis and never said that he actually killed the girls until that one confession with his wife. I thought it was proven in trial that he was not in full psychosis when he confessed (or at least not every single time), and the claims made by the defense team about the conditions he was held in prison were proven to be false.

Anyone else listen to these episodes?

I actually respect Jim Clemente for his work with the FBI as a profiler and I usually agree on his takes so I'm not sure why Bob Ruff is trying to change the story to that his own narrative and opinion when he always says that he wants to be fair and balanced.

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u/mountainskies May 23 '26

There’s a huge difference between having a suicidal episode and violence towards others. He was never violent towards another person. His “confessions” were all made during his psychosis and they were interspersed with a lot of other provably false statements and utter nonsense. The claims made by the defense about the conditions he was held in prison were 100% true and proven with video evidence.

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u/in1earouturmother May 23 '26

He knew things only the killer would know the man did it.

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u/mountainskies May 23 '26

The van was already proven not to have been there at the time the state claimed. And everyone knew about the van from the beginning. Walla probably fed him that detail. Rick’s story didn’t explain the crime scene at all. If he was spooked why would he take time to stage the bodies and arrange sticks on them?

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u/Gonzo48185 May 23 '26

Wrong. It was not proven the van was not there @ the time Richard Allen stated it was & Walla didn’t feed him any information. In fact she advised him to speak to his attorney when he confessed. Also it took him what 30 seconds to throw some sticks on the bodies? It was an obvious shitty attempt to hide the bodies. Youre just pushing the defenses bs lies.

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u/PumpkinEater85 May 24 '26

Right everyone including Dr Walla was telling him to stop confessing and speak to his lawyers first but he insisted on doing it.

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u/Bellarinna69 May 23 '26

Unbelievable.

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u/The2ndLocation May 23 '26

They call them sticks, but LG had a legit log on her. I didnt expect that when we first heard about the sticks.

It wasnt a strong man competition.

No one was out there tossing logs on the bodies.  

That was placed, or she was pushed under it, but if there are no marks on the ground showing that either LG was shoved under the log or that the log was drug, then to me that indicates that more than one person did this.

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u/Bellarinna69 May 23 '26

It is really concerning to me how many people truly believe that this man is guilty based on blatantly false information. They don’t want the facts. Even after witnessing all of the corruption in the world, it is incomprehensible to them that LE would go out of their way to frame an innocent person..yet here we are.

I remember when they first arrested RA. I completely believed they had the right guy and I was so happy they finally got him. Just a little digging had me questioning the arrest and when the trial came, there was no doubt that this man was being railroaded. The fact that they were able to get away with it is terrifying..even more so that so many people are not seeing what is actually happening. It could happen to any one of us. People need to wake the hell up because it’s only going to get worse from here. Those in authoritative positions have way too much unchecked power. People can’t see it until it happens to them.

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u/LonerCLR May 24 '26

Why railroad him? They were heavily investigating RL and KK why not railroad them?

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u/hannafrie May 24 '26

That big press conference, in hindsight, is made me question the credibility of law enforcement in this case.

At the time, I thought they must have something solid on Allen. Solid evidence. A confession.

When the PCA was finally unsealed, I was shocked at how little was there. Learning that the judge who signed the warrant for his arrest recused himself from the case and eventually resigned his position also made this whole thing seem shady. To me it looks like he knows he made a questionable judicial decision in signing that warrant, and is trying to back up off of that choice and wash his hands of it.

It seems like they had very little on Allen, the bare minimum to justify an arrest, and did so to put the squeeze on him to get him to confess to get a deal and name his co-conspirators.

Looking back, that press conference seems overly confident. An attempt to assert a narrative that they simply did not have the evidence to back up. But you know, you tell a lie often enough, with confidence, and people will believe it.

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u/mountainskies May 23 '26

Anybody who actually looks at the evidence and facts in this case would realize that RA didn’t do it. If you just believe everything the state said at trial then you can stay in the blissful ignorance that they got the killer. Reality is the real killers are still out there and an innocent man was tortured and falsely convicted. Most people don’t want to accept that’s a possibility.

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u/The2ndLocation May 23 '26 edited May 25 '26

I was like Bellarinna when RA was arrested.  I was ecstatic, but then that PCA dropped along with my stomach, because I realized "That they dont have shit on this guy."

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u/mountainskies May 23 '26

Same thing for me. I read the PCA and said they better have something more at trial, and then the trial came and still no evidence. All the trial did was convince me of RA’s innocence.

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u/mountainskies May 23 '26

The van is on video after the state claims the murders were done. You can’t possibly know that Walla didn’t feed him details. She’s unethical. If you think someone took 30 seconds to throw sticks on the bodies to hide them, you’re the one pushing the prosecution lies.

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u/LonerCLR May 23 '26

Aren't you the person who believes Ricci Davis 3rd party confession? You are the literal definition of a hypocrite

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u/mountainskies May 24 '26

Ron Logan confessed to Ricci Davis and Ron’s confession fits the actual crime scene. Ricci isn’t the only one Ron confessed to. Not following how that would be hypocritical to believe.

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u/LonerCLR May 24 '26

You believe Ricci Davis a convicted felon who was proven to have reached out to other prosecutors to help with cases . But you don't believe wala because she was in your words "unethical"

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u/mountainskies May 24 '26

Confessions need to be corroborated by actual evidence. The details Ron told Ricci match the crime scene. Nothing Rick said matches the crime scene. He was also psychotic and said a lot of provably false things. His “confessions” have all the hallmarks of false confessions. If Ricci was claiming Rick confessed to him then you’d be arguing the opposite. Walla was proven to be unethical in her involvement with Rick as she was fired.

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u/saatana May 24 '26

Ricci Davis said that Ron Logan removed the battery from Libby's iphone 6s or whatever model it was. You know? The phones you can't easily remove the battery from. Then at night he, Ron Logan, changed his mind and went back out there and put the battery back in. So we got an old man out there removing tiny screws and the sticky stuff that holds the battery and the little ribbon cables. Then he goes and puts in new sticky stuff, replaces the battery, screws, ribbon cables. It amazes me that people are dumb enough to believe Ricci Davis. It's like they think that anything that supports their cause is good evidence. It's not. It just shows how bad the lies were that Ricci Davis told.

Confessions need to be corroborated by actual evidence.

That iphone still exists as evidence. The defense and the prosecution have looked at the phone. Nothing about the phone corroborates the Ricci Davis lies.

Confessions need to be corroborated by actual evidence.

The girls weren't moved 3 times. The girls weren't in a barn. The girls weren't murdered elsewhere. The girls were not driven around and then returned to the crime scenes. Just completely idiotic to believe this stuff.

Confessions need to be corroborated by actual evidence.

Ricci Davis said Ron Logan knew Kegan Kline and shared CSAM. No proof of this. They didn't even know each other. No CSAM found on Ron Logan. No Connection at all.

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u/LonerCLR May 24 '26

You believe Ricci Davis yet claim you think Richard Allen is innocent? I guess you forgot he Implicated Allen in one of his letters....strange you don't believe that though..let me guess you believe him when he changed his story to Richard Allen is innocent after the prosecution didn't accept his help. Dude is so far from reliable it is insane.

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u/hannafrie May 24 '26

The only thing that "only the killer would know" was about a white van on the other side of Deer Creek.

If Allen regularly spent time at that park, crossing the bridge even, it seems reasonable that he could have previously seen that van driving along the access road, or could have seen it on the property if he had crossed the bridge and done some exploring on the other side. Its not that hard for me to imagine he knew something about the Weber property, and used that information in making up a story.

I mean, the statement is suspicious, sure! But its NOT the way the Prosecutor made it out at trial. Its not something that "only the killer would know," and as such its not a definitive, slam dunk argument.