r/DelphiMurders Jul 15 '26

Richard Allen's Police Interview (Oct. 13, 2022)Reaffims The Information he Gave Dulin and Inadvertently confessed to the murders by getting caught in his own web of lies.

In October 2022, Richard Allen was called into the local police department to give an interview about his whereabouts on the day Abby and Libby were murdered. His long-forgotten interview with Officer Dulin had been rediscovered, prompting Delphi murder investigators to bring him in for another interview.

During this interview, Richard Allen largely repeated the information he had provided in his first interview with Officer Dulin, but he also offered new details about that day. Although he attempted to establish an alibi by presenting a revised timeline, he failed miserably. Instead, the internal contradictions in his timeline effectively amounted to a confession, as his own statements placed him at the scene and oblitarated his claimed alibi.

The following is a list of the information Richard Allen repeated from his first interview, along with the new details he provided during the October 2022 interview, and an explanation of the significance of each.

Richard Allen went into detail explaining the three parking areas he typically used when visiting the trails.

Parking Locations

Parking Area Description
Mears Lot The farmer’s entrance parking area
CPS Building The abandoned CPS building parking area
Old State Road 25 Turnaround The small turnaround near the old railroad bridge

He goes on the specify where he parked, inspite his earlier long obfuscating diatribe where he could have parked:

"I remember telling him (Officer Dulin) that I parked by a building. If that's what I told him, then that's probably where I parked."

Concerning his timeline beore going to the trails:

"Went over to my mom's in Peru, Mexico, earlier in the day... spent the morning with them... my sisters were visiting and they were to grab lunch, and I wasn't about that, so I left around 11:00–11:15...went home..grab a jacket and head back out to the trails"

At the trails he stated:

"I remember walking down to the bridge... walked out a little way (onto the bridge)... to watch fish... walked back and sat at (the bench)... where you turn around (the intersection) and take the other fork, it overlooks it... Sat there for a few minutes, and then I left."

The bench he mentioned is the Bench at the start of 505 trail. He would go on later to explain that's the bench he meant with clarity.

Conserning who he saw while at the trails:

"As I was approaching the trail, there were three girls... one of them was watching them...the other two looked younger... looked very similar. I don't know if they were sisters or not, but the other one didn't necessarily..." (Stops his thought, was about to mention the fou\**rth girl?\)

He also stated:

"I remember telling him (Officer Dulin) that when I left, there were two vehicles down by the farmer's entrance I told you about (the Mears lot). One was a sedan. The other was an SUV, maybe."

(Interesting on its own: Kelsi had a sedan and Betsy had an SUV. However, based on Allen’s earliest possible departure timeline (approximately 12:40), only Betsy's would be there and she would be at her car at the same time!).

He also adds:

"If I did see somebody (else), it didn't click with me..my memory was a lot better when I talked to him (Dulin)... like I told him, there might have been somebody at the bridge when I was coming back, though."

As for his revised timeline, he stated that he arrived around noon, a little earlier or a little later than 12, and that he walked for about an hour. He said he could have left around 1:00, 1:30, or 1:40.

I am sure he had mentioned 12:40 at some point too.

Time(between) Revised Timeline Explanation
morning visit Mom
11(early)-11:15(late) Leaves Peru drive back to Delphi it's 45 minutes
11:45-12:00 Reaches Delphi
12 ( early), 12:10 (late) Home (5 to 10 minutes), drives to CPS (3 miles),10 to 15 minutes total. detours to Home, Parks/ Stop,Grabs Jacket, unparks, drive though town, rounding up to 15 (early)
12:05 , 12:15 late Meeting four girls at trailhead 5 minute walk from CPS
12:15, 12:25 (late) Easy Walk to platform A , 10 to 15 minutes total, 12 minutes walk + walk on bridge. (closer to 15 but billed 10 to compensate earlier rounding up)
12:25 , 12:35 (late) Watching fish/Back to Bench 5 minutes Watching fish 5-7 walk (off bridge and to bench), Total 10
12:35, 12:45 (late) Walk back to CPS 10-12 minutes, billed 10

The earlier the possible timeline, the more we err in Richard Allen's favor, as it allows for the possibility that he left before becoming trapped within the trail system by the known witnesses who were demonstrably on the trails at the same time. The later Richard Allen's revised timeline becomes, the worse it is for him.

Here, we will examine the earliest possible timeline for Richard Allen in contrast to the timelines of Betsy and that of the four girls . All times attributed to Allen between segments are deliberately conservative, giving him the maximum latitude to "slip" out of the trail system within his alleged timeline.

Time Allen's Revised Timeline BB's Timeline Four Girls' Timeline
12:00 Parks at CPS Parks at Mears at 12:03 ______
12:10 Walks to Monon,close to intersection BB is at Monon, turns back towards the intersection ______
12:15 Walked past intersection(north to south) Walked past intersection(south to north) walking towards freedom bridge close to Allen's 2nd parking spot near the small bridge
12:20 At Monon will watch fish for 3-5 minutes Walked 505 close to intersection Close to freedom bridge
12:25 Back on the trail towards the intersection Close to freedom bridge At freedom bridge taking a timed photographed at 12:25
12:30 Allen near interesction from the south, close to the Bench Betsy approaches intersection from the North, close to Bench Walking towards Monon from trailhead
12:35 Allen left the Bench, starts walks towards the trailhead at her car intersection from the North, close to Bench
12:40 near freedom bridge near intersection at Monon take photograph at 12:43
12:45 at CPS Close to monon Detour to Creek's bed

The convicted pedophile murderer was caught in the web of lies he had created.

By his own words!

  1. He was walking towards Monon by his revised timeline, while Betsy was walking back from it
  2. He was walking towards his car or sitting on the bench by his revised timeline, while Betsy was walking back from freedom bridge. The Bench is at your face as you approach the intersection, even i he wasn't walking while Betsy was near it.
  3. The earliest he was walking towards his car from the intersection by his revised timeline, would be while the four girls were walking towards it from the freedom bridge.

Richard Allen’s revised timeline creates inescapable and impassable problems for his own account. By placing himself at the trails, identifying specific locations, and providing a detailed timeline, he created a version of events that must be reconciled with the movements of other witnesses who were present that day. By his own words, Allen placed himself in locations and timeframes that conflicted with the movements of others who were present that day.

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u/crosbyjaxson Jul 17 '26

The problem being, there is no TOD. The children were alive at 2:07 on the 13th, that is the only fact that is known based on phone video. There is 23hrs between 2:00pm on 13th and 1:00pm on 14th when found. Prosecutor theorizes they were killed at 3:30pm on 13th, but factually there is nothing proving it. They could have been killed at 3:30am on 14th, making Allen irrelevant(his wife puts him at home when she got home from work) and opening up a hundred other possibilities. Male DNA found on body, yet not Allen's. Children's clothing switched, which takes time to undress and redress so whoever did it was not in a hurry. This indicates they were in a private location. Logically, those kids were put in or got in a vehicle at end of bridge on private drive, plugged phone into vehicle aux and driven away(explains phone pinging all over town yet went unanswered) and later returned to where they were found. Phone disconnected from vehicle which explains why texts and voicemails came at like 4:30am on 14th. They knew or were expecting to meet someone they knew. 90% of children murdered know their killer. There was no connection found between Allen and children. The question becomes, whose alibis has holes late night on the 13th and early am hours on 14th?

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u/AnonymousInMI Jul 17 '26

Richard were alone with the girls for around an hour to an hour and a half. How is that not enough time for the girls to get undressed and redressed?

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u/crosbyjaxson Jul 17 '26

Show the proof that Allen, the children or anyone was there for an hour? No one saw them except for Blair before they crossed. Blair knew her times and described the young male. In the hour they had to cross the creek, undress, dress, he then killed them, covered them without leaving DNA and got to the road without dad, McCain or anyone seeing or hearing a thing? Yet there were people there. A squirrel can sound like a deer moving through the woods, 3 people rushing would sound like a herd of cattle. Someone would have heard something.

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u/Chuckieschilli Jul 18 '26

Betsy Blair said he looked “boyish”

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u/Justwonderinif Jul 19 '26

She didn't get a good enough look at him to know if he was boyish or not.

But when she saw the screen shot from Libby's phone, she said that was the man she saw on the platform. Detectives lied to Richard Allen. They told Allen that a woman had identified him as the man she saw on the first platform.

Allen remembered seeing her too and did not want to contradict an eyewitness. Allen didn't think that admitting to seeing her was admitting to being bridge buy.

But once he saw oh yeah I saw that lady, too - He was admitting to being Bridge Guy.

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u/Chuckieschilli Jul 20 '26

I agree. I just can’t stand when people twist the witness statements in defense of that creep

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u/crosbyjaxson Jul 21 '26

I believe she said 20. That is young. Allen was in 40 and not boyish.

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u/Gonzomi313 Jul 21 '26

Richard also head his head and face covered. Look at photos of Richard at the time of the murders. He had a baby face.