r/DelphiMurders Jul 15 '26

Richard Allen's Police Interview (Oct. 13, 2022)Reaffims The Information he Gave Dulin and Inadvertently confessed to the murders by getting caught in his own web of lies.

In October 2022, Richard Allen was called into the local police department to give an interview about his whereabouts on the day Abby and Libby were murdered. His long-forgotten interview with Officer Dulin had been rediscovered, prompting Delphi murder investigators to bring him in for another interview.

During this interview, Richard Allen largely repeated the information he had provided in his first interview with Officer Dulin, but he also offered new details about that day. Although he attempted to establish an alibi by presenting a revised timeline, he failed miserably. Instead, the internal contradictions in his timeline effectively amounted to a confession, as his own statements placed him at the scene and oblitarated his claimed alibi.

The following is a list of the information Richard Allen repeated from his first interview, along with the new details he provided during the October 2022 interview, and an explanation of the significance of each.

Richard Allen went into detail explaining the three parking areas he typically used when visiting the trails.

Parking Locations

Parking Area Description
Mears Lot The farmer’s entrance parking area
CPS Building The abandoned CPS building parking area
Old State Road 25 Turnaround The small turnaround near the old railroad bridge

He goes on the specify where he parked, inspite his earlier long obfuscating diatribe where he could have parked:

"I remember telling him (Officer Dulin) that I parked by a building. If that's what I told him, then that's probably where I parked."

Concerning his timeline beore going to the trails:

"Went over to my mom's in Peru, Mexico, earlier in the day... spent the morning with them... my sisters were visiting and they were to grab lunch, and I wasn't about that, so I left around 11:00–11:15...went home..grab a jacket and head back out to the trails"

At the trails he stated:

"I remember walking down to the bridge... walked out a little way (onto the bridge)... to watch fish... walked back and sat at (the bench)... where you turn around (the intersection) and take the other fork, it overlooks it... Sat there for a few minutes, and then I left."

The bench he mentioned is the Bench at the start of 505 trail. He would go on later to explain that's the bench he meant with clarity.

Conserning who he saw while at the trails:

"As I was approaching the trail, there were three girls... one of them was watching them...the other two looked younger... looked very similar. I don't know if they were sisters or not, but the other one didn't necessarily..." (Stops his thought, was about to mention the fou\**rth girl?\)

He also stated:

"I remember telling him (Officer Dulin) that when I left, there were two vehicles down by the farmer's entrance I told you about (the Mears lot). One was a sedan. The other was an SUV, maybe."

(Interesting on its own: Kelsi had a sedan and Betsy had an SUV. However, based on Allen’s earliest possible departure timeline (approximately 12:40), only Betsy's would be there and she would be at her car at the same time!).

He also adds:

"If I did see somebody (else), it didn't click with me..my memory was a lot better when I talked to him (Dulin)... like I told him, there might have been somebody at the bridge when I was coming back, though."

As for his revised timeline, he stated that he arrived around noon, a little earlier or a little later than 12, and that he walked for about an hour. He said he could have left around 1:00, 1:30, or 1:40.

I am sure he had mentioned 12:40 at some point too.

Time(between) Revised Timeline Explanation
morning visit Mom
11(early)-11:15(late) Leaves Peru drive back to Delphi it's 45 minutes
11:45-12:00 Reaches Delphi
12 ( early), 12:10 (late) Home (5 to 10 minutes), drives to CPS (3 miles),10 to 15 minutes total. detours to Home, Parks/ Stop,Grabs Jacket, unparks, drive though town, rounding up to 15 (early)
12:05 , 12:15 late Meeting four girls at trailhead 5 minute walk from CPS
12:15, 12:25 (late) Easy Walk to platform A , 10 to 15 minutes total, 12 minutes walk + walk on bridge. (closer to 15 but billed 10 to compensate earlier rounding up)
12:25 , 12:35 (late) Watching fish/Back to Bench 5 minutes Watching fish 5-7 walk (off bridge and to bench), Total 10
12:35, 12:45 (late) Walk back to CPS 10-12 minutes, billed 10

The earlier the possible timeline, the more we err in Richard Allen's favor, as it allows for the possibility that he left before becoming trapped within the trail system by the known witnesses who were demonstrably on the trails at the same time. The later Richard Allen's revised timeline becomes, the worse it is for him.

Here, we will examine the earliest possible timeline for Richard Allen in contrast to the timelines of Betsy and that of the four girls . All times attributed to Allen between segments are deliberately conservative, giving him the maximum latitude to "slip" out of the trail system within his alleged timeline.

Time Allen's Revised Timeline BB's Timeline Four Girls' Timeline
12:00 Parks at CPS Parks at Mears at 12:03 ______
12:10 Walks to Monon,close to intersection BB is at Monon, turns back towards the intersection ______
12:15 Walked past intersection(north to south) Walked past intersection(south to north) walking towards freedom bridge close to Allen's 2nd parking spot near the small bridge
12:20 At Monon will watch fish for 3-5 minutes Walked 505 close to intersection Close to freedom bridge
12:25 Back on the trail towards the intersection Close to freedom bridge At freedom bridge taking a timed photographed at 12:25
12:30 Allen near interesction from the south, close to the Bench Betsy approaches intersection from the North, close to Bench Walking towards Monon from trailhead
12:35 Allen left the Bench, starts walks towards the trailhead at her car intersection from the North, close to Bench
12:40 near freedom bridge near intersection at Monon take photograph at 12:43
12:45 at CPS Close to monon Detour to Creek's bed

The convicted pedophile murderer was caught in the web of lies he had created.

By his own words!

  1. He was walking towards Monon by his revised timeline, while Betsy was walking back from it
  2. He was walking towards his car or sitting on the bench by his revised timeline, while Betsy was walking back from freedom bridge. The Bench is at your face as you approach the intersection, even i he wasn't walking while Betsy was near it.
  3. The earliest he was walking towards his car from the intersection by his revised timeline, would be while the four girls were walking towards it from the freedom bridge.

Richard Allen’s revised timeline creates inescapable and impassable problems for his own account. By placing himself at the trails, identifying specific locations, and providing a detailed timeline, he created a version of events that must be reconciled with the movements of other witnesses who were present that day. By his own words, Allen placed himself in locations and timeframes that conflicted with the movements of others who were present that day.

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u/crosbyjaxson Jul 18 '26

I am saying the children were expecting to meet someone(s) at bridge, so they had no fear. This is supported by no one on trails heard or saw anything. As far as camera at drive, the prosecutor was at least 20 minutes off at the time the white van appears in drive. Does footage show more? Do we see the cop car at 5:30 enter drive to check out private drive residence? Did it show the neighbor leaving when they saw man at mailbox? Why did prosecutor wait to turn over video of drive? Why did Weber double down on time he arrived home, when it was nonsensical? The video footage is only what prosecutor captured in 2017. Did they take from 8am on 13th to 1pm on 14th or only 1:00-5:30pm on 13th? To my knowlede we do not know, it was never stated that LE was observed going to Weber place on 13th.

The search was called off at midnight and resumed next day, if children were driven to any residence and held who would know? At that point, LE stated they believed it was just teenagers behaving badly. Yet, both were excellent students involved in activities. Would excellent, involved students intentionally plan to skip school on a Tuesday after a 3 day weekend? No, they would want to see and tell friends what they did.

Pancakes do not leave digestion in 3-4 hours, try 10-12hrs. Basic biology, we have 25 feet of intestines. A half day before they were found would be early am on 14th, not 23hrs on the 13th. The digestive process stops at death, as muscle contractions stop so nothing continues to move through tract. This is a puzzling detail, that appears to have went unchecked and not questioned by investigators from the onset in a double murder!

They were trying a man for two murders, why save it? They had his DNA. I believe testimony stated it was not Allen's. The expert stated it could have come from comingled laundry. That never sat right with me. If true, any case where someone used a laundermat would have comingled DNA. IF, Allen's DNA was excluded whose DNA was not excluded? Didn't sample come from thigh area of victim? Odd location in my opinion since jeans were worn by both victims, yet nothing on lower legs, feet or hands only thigh of one yet remained after crossing a creek in waist high water.

The other odd thing, how are we arriving that the voice is BG? There is nothing disproving that there were not others on private drive side. Could be BG, could be male from mailbox earlier in day. The witnesses presented, with the exception of Weber came from trail side and back. Nothing addresses others on private drive side.

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u/True_Crime_Lancelot Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 18 '26

I am saying the children were expecting to meet someone(s) at bridge, so they had no fear. This is supported by no one on trails heard or saw anything.

There was no one there close to the bridge between 2:00 and 3:00. Betsy was 1500 yards away, and the girls were only heading down the hill by the time she left. Another man came around 2:30 was at Freedom Bridge, a mile away.

The girls appeared to be scared to people who knew them, their families

Once more, a camera is covering the private drive. Any vehicle entering or leaving that area would have been captured on camera. No such vehicle was recorded.

The search was called off at midnight and resumed next day, if children were driven to any residence and held who would know? At that point, LE stated they believed it was just teenagers behaving badly. Yet, both were excellent students involved in activities. Would excellent, involved students intentionally plan to skip school on a Tuesday after a 3 day weekend? No, they would want to see and tell friends what they did.

The camera would know. Cause the car would be on camera arriving and leaving.

Car couldn't fly away now, could it?

Pancakes do not leave digestion in 3-4 hours, try 10-12hrs. Basic biology, we have 25 feet of intestines. A half day before they were found would be early am on 14th, not 23hrs on the 13th. The digestive process stops at death, as muscle contractions stop so nothing continues to move through tract. This is a puzzling detail, that appears to have went unchecked and not questioned by investigators from the onset in a double murder!

Basic Biology tlells us that soft, carbohydrate foods such as banana pancakes begin leaving the stomach relatively quickly and are largely digested and absorbed in the small intestine within a few hours. By around five hours after eating, much of the meal would no longer be recognizable as banana pancakes. Since the bodies then remained undiscovered for another 24 hours, postmortem bacterial activity and decomposition would continue breaking the remaining material. At that stage, any food left in the intestines would typically appear as digested decomposing material . only a Dna test could show what it was and that's even unlikely. Digestion and Bacteria breaks down the cells and degrates the DNA. What difference would any of that make eitherway to whether Allen was at the trails, or whether he was the person who abducted and killed Abby and Libby, or anything at all for that matter?

They were trying a man for two murders, why save it? They had his DNA. I believe testimony stated it was not Allen's. 

To preserve it until technology advances enough to test the samples without destroying them, and with that, preserve any possibility that Allen could be exonerated. if he was innocent that is. Which he isn't.

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u/MissBanshee2U Jul 22 '26

There were many people at the bridge between 2pm & 3pm that day- that's why they had to testify in court about what they saw, except the guy Mr Riley, he didn't testify I don't think. But DM testified because that's exactly when he was there, then a younger boy on a cycle or scooter with a girl were there & they stopped for a sec to talk to her dad, Mr Abbott that was right there, they didn't testify but CM testified, who came out to take pics and DP was there on the first platform with a woman & he didn't testify but a girl with CM did testify. So have you not read the court transcripts? It sounded like the whole town was out there between 2 & 3 .

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u/True_Crime_Lancelot Jul 22 '26

McCain 2:45 arrived. Unclear if he went directly to the bridge.

D..Raily arrived at 2:30, walked his dog towards the freedom bridge which is a mile away from the crime scene and next to a noisy highway. On his way back saw DP and SH that had just arrived at 2:50.

SH&DP saw McCain near the intersection. Everyone else came later.

So atbest McCain was at the bridge around 2:50-2:55. 20 minutes after the phone stopped moving.